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SergioNYK
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1/21/2022  9:32 AM
I'm turning 40 later this year and I hope one day soon I'll learn to somehow not allow this team to alter my mood and bring me down cause listening to some sports radio and reading the papers this morning on the way to work was so depressing and now I'm sitting here in my office with no motivation to get anything done. And I'm stuck. It's not like you can divorce this team.

Well, last night was awful. One of the worst losses this season and there has been a lot of them. No need to pile on. Especially on Randle. We saw it. It is what it is. We all would like for it to change but maybe he just cannot. He played us. Last season was clearly an aberration. No fans, more time to practice since everything else was shutdown, no expectations. Nothing we can do about it now but move on. He's untradeable, especially with how he's playing lately. Just gotta hope he starts playing better. A good start would be to stop even looking at the zebras. Just play ball. You get the calls or not, who cares. Just play. Maybe if you just shut up and play and not bother with the zebras, there is a chance that maybe they will sympathize with you and start giving you more calls. And I also think not having him handle the ball and Iso'ing as much. Thibs should run some sets that get him shots or plays where he doesn't need to think as much. Cause this holding the ball and jumping the air to pass with 3 seconds left in the shot clock has to stop.

I keep telling myself we were 25-27 last season and there is still time to turn it around this season. But we desperately need Rose and Noel back asap. We just don't have anyone who can duplicate what they bring (penetration & rim protection). Also gotta hope Reddish can bring maybe a little bit of what Bulloch brought and we also must make a trade to bring in some help. I think too many players this season got to comfortable and just aren't playing as hard as last season. The next few games are kind of like our playoffs right now. We gotta somehow find a way to stay afloat.

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Philc1
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1/21/2022  9:44 AM
Chandler wrote:Mitch played well. There were times he held his hip though and taj got a lot of burn so I think Mitch is playing through some dings now. Was a warrior on the boards

Mitch is obviously playing his arse off to try to get a contract but I don't care. Extend him, stop screwing around. Our team defense is better when he's on the floor. If he's not on the floor literally anyone can drive to the basket on us.

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1/21/2022  10:11 AM
Philc1 wrote:
Chandler wrote:Mitch played well. There were times he held his hip though and taj got a lot of burn so I think Mitch is playing through some dings now. Was a warrior on the boards

Mitch is obviously playing his arse off to try to get a contract but I don't care. Extend him, stop screwing around. Our team defense is better when he's on the floor. If he's not on the floor literally anyone can drive to the basket on us.

If we extend him or over pay him, there has to be some kind of incentive for Mitch to keep improving and working on his game. From talking to him b4 the draft to watching him over the last 3 yrs, he appears to be a classic example of someone who gets his money and stops developing until next contract. Not sure if that’s possible or why other contracts don’t have this. But it’s becoming pretty common now. Simmons still can and won’t shoot. But he’s paid like a superstar. Westbrook or wall are not good shooters and I haven’t seen any improvement but they definitely got paid. I hope that’s not the case for Mitch, but we should extend him at market value. Without a doubt

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martin
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1/21/2022  10:17 AM
Philc1 wrote:
Chandler wrote:Mitch played well. There were times he held his hip though and taj got a lot of burn so I think Mitch is playing through some dings now. Was a warrior on the boards

Mitch is obviously playing his arse off to try to get a contract but I don't care. Extend him, stop screwing around. Our team defense is better when he's on the floor. If he's not on the floor literally anyone can drive to the basket on us.

Outside of his conditioning, I've always felt Mitch gives 100% when he is on the court. Most of the previous years he doesn't always know the right thing to do but the effort was there and has nothing to do with his contract. EVERY player plays his ass of for the next contract.

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1/21/2022  10:20 AM    LAST EDITED: 1/21/2022  10:26 AM
Chandler wrote:Mitch played well. There were times he held his hip though and taj got a lot of burn so I think Mitch is playing through some dings now. Was a warrior on the boards

Mitch was the best player on the floor in the beginning of the game. And continued to play solid. He plays better against big slow centers. And Noel stinks vs big centers. But Noel plays smaller fast centers better than Mitch. Taj somehow plays both fairly well.

I saw Mitch grab his groin I thought. That may have slowed him down a bit. It happened when he got a pass and made a quick catch, turn and dunk. He definitely tweeted something. Let’s hope it wasn’t serious. Unfortunately if he had signed a new contract, he probably would’ve sat out. But he appears to play through minor injuries this year. Let’s see if he continues after his big pay day.

But 1st 3 quarters Mitch looked like a keeper. Defensive anker and rebounder on offense and defensive. He plays better against a non shooting big, even though dude can shoot. He was not shooting last night which made Mitch job even easier. He also played better on the boards because nobody could make a shot in the 1st half. Plenty of rebounds to be had when both teams are terrible at shooting.

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1/21/2022  10:23 AM
ramtour420 wrote:Well after watching the game I saw some positives. In the first quarter Randle was throwing some crisp assists inside to Mitchel who was again able to take advantage of his position under the hoop. That's an incredibly positive development from him, he was our leading scorer( Mitch) after the 1st q. Randle had 4 assists. It was great. Of course we went back to that only a handful of times the rest of the game. Still, it was noteworthy. We airballed more shots than any other game this season, or so it seemed. Mitch caught those airballs and was sent to the line every time. At the line he was his usual self, trying to build a 🧱 house.
Grimes was easily the best Knick on the floor at any given time. Yes he had a couple of silly fouls but that's something you live with when he is playing such aggressive D. Grimes is untouchable IMHO.

Yes….very accurate assessment on Mitch and especially grimes who I love. I still see a gritty Allan Houston type player as his ceiling. And he really developing into something special.

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1/21/2022  11:37 AM
blkexec wrote:
Chandler wrote:Mitch played well. There were times he held his hip though and taj got a lot of burn so I think Mitch is playing through some dings now. Was a warrior on the boards

Mitch was the best player on the floor in the beginning of the game. And continued to play solid. He plays better against big slow centers. And Noel stinks vs big centers. But Noel plays smaller fast centers better than Mitch. Taj somehow plays both fairly well.

I saw Mitch grab his groin I thought. That may have slowed him down a bit. It happened when he got a pass and made a quick catch, turn and dunk. He definitely tweeted something. Let’s hope it wasn’t serious. Unfortunately if he had signed a new contract, he probably would’ve sat out. But he appears to play through minor injuries this year. Let’s see if he continues after his big pay day.

But 1st 3 quarters Mitch looked like a keeper. Defensive anker and rebounder on offense and defensive. He plays better against a non shooting big, even though dude can shoot. He was not shooting last night which made Mitch job even easier. He also played better on the boards because nobody could make a shot in the 1st half. Plenty of rebounds to be had when both teams are terrible at shooting.

Noel can’t stay healthy and is essentially Mitch lite. This is probably Taj’s last season


If Rose and Perry don’t lock up Mitch long term we are going to have a problem at C for many years to come

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1/21/2022  11:38 AM
blkexec wrote:
ramtour420 wrote:Well after watching the game I saw some positives. In the first quarter Randle was throwing some crisp assists inside to Mitchel who was again able to take advantage of his position under the hoop. That's an incredibly positive development from him, he was our leading scorer( Mitch) after the 1st q. Randle had 4 assists. It was great. Of course we went back to that only a handful of times the rest of the game. Still, it was noteworthy. We airballed more shots than any other game this season, or so it seemed. Mitch caught those airballs and was sent to the line every time. At the line he was his usual self, trying to build a 🧱 house.
Grimes was easily the best Knick on the floor at any given time. Yes he had a couple of silly fouls but that's something you live with when he is playing such aggressive D. Grimes is untouchable IMHO.

Yes….very accurate assessment on Mitch and especially grimes who I love. I still see a gritty Allan Houston type player as his ceiling. And he really developing into something special.

Houston was a way better shooter tho Grimes is a far better defender even now as just a rookie


Houston must watch todays NBA and be like “I played in the wrong era dammit”

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1/21/2022  12:38 PM    LAST EDITED: 1/21/2022  12:39 PM
I blame the loss on martin for his incorrect title being on TNT. Plus no preggers pic of Wallys baby mama. Of she who shall not be named.
martin
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1/21/2022  12:59 PM
NYKBocker wrote:I blame the loss on martin for his incorrect title being on TNT. Plus no preggers pic of Wallys baby mama. Of she who shall not be named.

Joke was on me cause I didn't watch game til 4th quarter cause I don't have TNT

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1/21/2022  2:26 PM
SergioNYK wrote:I'm turning 40 later this year and I hope one day soon I'll learn to somehow not allow this team to alter my mood and bring me down cause listening to some sports radio and reading the papers this morning on the way to work was so depressing and now I'm sitting here in my office with no motivation to get anything done. And I'm stuck. It's not like you can divorce this team.

Well, last night was awful. One of the worst losses this season and there has been a lot of them. No need to pile on. Especially on Randle. We saw it. It is what it is. We all would like for it to change but maybe he just cannot. He played us. Last season was clearly an aberration. No fans, more time to practice since everything else was shutdown, no expectations. Nothing we can do about it now but move on. He's untradeable, especially with how he's playing lately. Just gotta hope he starts playing better. A good start would be to stop even looking at the zebras. Just play ball. You get the calls or not, who cares. Just play. Maybe if you just shut up and play and not bother with the zebras, there is a chance that maybe they will sympathize with you and start giving you more calls. And I also think not having him handle the ball and Iso'ing as much. Thibs should run some sets that get him shots or plays where he doesn't need to think as much. Cause this holding the ball and jumping the air to pass with 3 seconds left in the shot clock has to stop.

I keep telling myself we were 25-27 last season and there is still time to turn it around this season. But we desperately need Rose and Noel back asap. We just don't have anyone who can duplicate what they bring (penetration & rim protection). Also gotta hope Reddish can bring maybe a little bit of what Bulloch brought and we also must make a trade to bring in some help. I think too many players this season got to comfortable and just aren't playing as hard as last season. The next few games are kind of like our playoffs right now. We gotta somehow find a way to stay afloat.

He was all that last year and you take away that "he played us"? Really, you feel betrayed and he fat and happy?

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1/21/2022  2:55 PM
SergioNYK wrote:I'm turning 40 later this year and I hope one day soon I'll learn to somehow not allow this team to alter my mood and bring me down cause listening to some sports radio and reading the papers this morning on the way to work was so depressing and now I'm sitting here in my office with no motivation to get anything done. And I'm stuck. It's not like you can divorce this team.

Well, last night was awful. One of the worst losses this season and there has been a lot of them. No need to pile on. Especially on Randle. We saw it. It is what it is. We all would like for it to change but maybe he just cannot. He played us. Last season was clearly an aberration. No fans, more time to practice since everything else was shutdown, no expectations. Nothing we can do about it now but move on. He's untradeable, especially with how he's playing lately. Just gotta hope he starts playing better. A good start would be to stop even looking at the zebras. Just play ball. You get the calls or not, who cares. Just play. Maybe if you just shut up and play and not bother with the zebras, there is a chance that maybe they will sympathize with you and start giving you more calls. And I also think not having him handle the ball and Iso'ing as much. Thibs should run some sets that get him shots or plays where he doesn't need to think as much. Cause this holding the ball and jumping the air to pass with 3 seconds left in the shot clock has to stop.

I keep telling myself we were 25-27 last season and there is still time to turn it around this season. But we desperately need Rose and Noel back asap. We just don't have anyone who can duplicate what they bring (penetration & rim protection). Also gotta hope Reddish can bring maybe a little bit of what Bulloch brought and we also must make a trade to bring in some help. I think too many players this season got to comfortable and just aren't playing as hard as last season. The next few games are kind of like our playoffs right now. We gotta somehow find a way to stay afloat.

If it’s any consolation, I’m 41 and since I turned 40 at the start of the pandemic, this team doesn’t bring me down anywhere near as much as it used to, but I do still get a buzz when they’re doing well!

The key for me is to have some other stuff going on you have an emotional investment in so you can alter your focus when Knicks times are bad (even if it’s just movies or tv shows you can watch instead). Also the various Knicks fan content and podcasts help too as they’re entertaining regardless as to how the team is doing (and funny when times are bad) and there will also be a caller or a host who shares the way you feel- it’s cathartic!

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1/21/2022  3:29 PM    LAST EDITED: 1/21/2022  3:29 PM
I am 41 and I am so used to us sucking. So zero expectations. Last season was all euphoria. This year I had actual expectations so I am upset that they are not met. I guess it's fair to say that's it's not the Knicks , it's me ! Unfulfilled expectations are a very common source of regret
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1/21/2022  4:21 PM
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