knicks1248 wrote:

nyknickzingis wrote:Porzingis helping Luka and Mavs be a top 5 West team, top 7 team in the league. His defensive impact and rebounding been huge for Dallas.

their draft picks seemed to be his losing value by the wk.

That's AOK though, right? Knicks don't get their pick til next year? So it's actually a GOOD THING that this year they do well (not getting a high pick) and then it'll be time for KP to miss half a season when our pick is due.

How about them apples, right?

martin wrote:

knicks1248 wrote:

nyknickzingis wrote:Porzingis helping Luka and Mavs be a top 5 West team, top 7 team in the league. His defensive impact and rebounding been huge for Dallas.

their draft picks seemed to be losing value by the wk.

That's AOK though, right? Knicks don't get their pick til next year? So it's actually a GOOD THING that this year they do well (not getting a high pick) and then it'll be time for KP to miss half a season when our pick is due.

How about them apples, right?

wishful thinking but highly unlikely.

Beside Luka makes everyone around him better.

So we gave Dallas our Best player/franchise player, for DSJ and couples of draft picks in the mid 20's.

What makes it so bad is that DSJ looks way better in a Mavs Uniform, so his value has also taken a hit

smackeddog wrote:I'm not Melo's biggest fan (or biggest hater!), but all the flack he was getting after playing just 2 games after being out for a year was ridiculous. What other player has ever been expected to be good their first 2 games back after a year long absence from the game? Much as he annoys me that he still insists on starting, I'm glad he had a good game vs the Bulls. Media seem to have a vendetta agains him

Most of the stories I read pointed out that Melo really only had one shoot around with the team before playing in his first game back.
Annoying that he wants to start? Ummm, exactly who would you want starting over Melo on that team anyway? Mario? Anthony Tolliver? Their bench is pretty slim at 4.

Nice game against a bad Bulls team, but I doubt he's going to be able to keep hitting 57% from 3. The 8 rebounds were nice to see, as well as him feeding Whiteside a few times.

jrodmc wrote:

smackeddog wrote:I'm not Melo's biggest fan (or biggest hater!), but all the flack he was getting after playing just 2 games after being out for a year was ridiculous. What other player has ever been expected to be good their first 2 games back after a year long absence from the game? Much as he annoys me that he still insists on starting, I'm glad he had a good game vs the Bulls. Media seem to have a vendetta agains him

Interesting to see if the Portland starters can stay healthy, now that they're going to be playing at home for awhile...

Most of the stories I read pointed out that Melo really only had one shoot around with the team before playing in his first game back.
Annoying that he wants to start? Ummm, exactly who would you want starting over Melo on that team anyway? Mario? Anthony Tolliver? Their bench is pretty slim at 4.

Nice game against a bad Bulls team, but I doubt he's going to be able to keep hitting 57% from 3. The 8 rebounds were nice to see, as well as him feeding Whiteside a few times.

HofstraBBall wrote:

CrushAlot wrote:

jrodmc wrote:

smackeddog wrote:I'm not Melo's biggest fan (or biggest hater!), but all the flack he was getting after playing just 2 games after being out for a year was ridiculous. What other player has ever been expected to be good their first 2 games back after a year long absence from the game? Much as he annoys me that he still insists on starting, I'm glad he had a good game vs the Bulls. Media seem to have a vendetta agains him

Interesting to see if the Portland starters can stay healthy, now that they're going to be playing at home for awhile...

Most of the stories I read pointed out that Melo really only had one shoot around with the team before playing in his first game back.
Annoying that he wants to start? Ummm, exactly who would you want starting over Melo on that team anyway? Mario? Anthony Tolliver? Their bench is pretty slim at 4.

Nice game against a bad Bulls team, but I doubt he's going to be able to keep hitting 57% from 3. The 8 rebounds were nice to see, as well as him feeding Whiteside a few times.

Stotts is a really good coach. I think Melo is in a great situation in Portland. I hated the idea of him playing for D’Antoni.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.cbssports.com/nba/news/carmelo-anthony-has-most-accurate-shooting-night-of-his-career-in-home-debut-with-blazers/amp/

Had a good night.

Good for him, bball writers were laughing at him and writing all sorts of s*** after his first TWO games after a year off

CrushAlot wrote:

smackeddog wrote:

HofstraBBall wrote:

CrushAlot wrote:

jrodmc wrote:

smackeddog wrote:I'm not Melo's biggest fan (or biggest hater!), but all the flack he was getting after playing just 2 games after being out for a year was ridiculous. What other player has ever been expected to be good their first 2 games back after a year long absence from the game? Much as he annoys me that he still insists on starting, I'm glad he had a good game vs the Bulls. Media seem to have a vendetta agains him

Interesting to see if the Portland starters can stay healthy, now that they're going to be playing at home for awhile...

Most of the stories I read pointed out that Melo really only had one shoot around with the team before playing in his first game back.
Annoying that he wants to start? Ummm, exactly who would you want starting over Melo on that team anyway? Mario? Anthony Tolliver? Their bench is pretty slim at 4.

Nice game against a bad Bulls team, but I doubt he's going to be able to keep hitting 57% from 3. The 8 rebounds were nice to see, as well as him feeding Whiteside a few times.

Stotts is a really good coach. I think Melo is in a great situation in Portland. I hated the idea of him playing for D’Antoni.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.cbssports.com/nba/news/carmelo-anthony-has-most-accurate-shooting-night-of-his-career-in-home-debut-with-blazers/amp/

Had a good night.

Good for him, bball writers were laughing at him and writing all sorts of s*** after his first TWO games after a year off

Stotts said he had only had a shoot around before playing in his first game. I hope he continues to have success. Playing with Russ and then for a coach that hated him wasn't the way for him to go out.

Genuine question: would people rather have Melo on that 1 year unguaranteed contract starting, or Randle for 20mil per for 2 years?

Nalod wrote:Randle.
Randle is the best player on the putrid team. Im not "woe-be-gone" on him as my hope is as the team improves his talents blend in.
Randle and morris are not first options on a good team. At the moment this is what it is.
Its like Hardaway, he is doing fine as a role player and his shooting opens things up for Doncic. He is one of many on the team. Here he was our 1st option. We hated him too.
Now its Randle or Morris.

watching the raptors/knicks game made me leave with alot of empathy for your players and coach.

while i don't think they are good players overall nor do i think fizdale is a good coach, they were thrust into these roles by an absolutely reckless, irresponsible, and downright awful front office. dolan + mills and perry are 100% the issue here.

randle is not an awful player but he was thrust into this star role that he is simply not equipped to handle. these rookies are slotted in to help the knicks win and when that doesn't happen, they start shrinking. then playing in the pressure cooker of nyc and guys like dennis smith are booed and he can't mentally recover.

this is just a huge toxic clusterf ck. what mills + perry did with that presser is inexcusable and was the highlight moment that officially ended the season and destroyed anything that could be built this year. them saying they have expectations puts the blame solely on the coach and players. fans buy it all hook line and sinker and add to the chaos. how many folks here actually believed the knicks would win close to 40 games this year? i think there were quite a few of you ehre.

this is sh t that destroys careers. randle may be a lost cause here - look at him. his face just looks in a constant state of bewilderment and shock. you all can hate kp but he recognized this early and he forced his way out b/c he knew this would damage his career.

i'm not saying any of this as a hater. after the title run last year, i got a great new appreciation for all things basketball. i stopped watching all other teams years ago - only the raptors. but this season is the most i've followed all teams in 5+ years. so i'm just stating my observation. it's nothing new but i just wanted to say i agree with nalod, "it is what it is" - but what it is is the result of some really irresponsible nonsense. that's why you all are hoping for some savior - whether it was zion or it was durant. you guys are in a tough spot and i hope you get some sort of great big payoff at some point. no fanbase should suffer like this - even tho i think youre idiots for sticking around :)

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CrushAlot wrote:This is awesome.

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Saw that as well. Lol

Funny how so many that blamed him for the issues in NY are now seeing guys like Randle and Morris have such little impact towards winning. Specially with so many more "young talented assets".

Interesting topic on another forum....the talk of how speed ball and 3pt. dominance that has taken over basketball may not last. Some say it was only because of GS and their success. And how now that they are having issues, it will start to effect the perception of that type of systems success. Some also point to the success of Kahwi and how he won without relying on 3pt. shooting. Of course you still have teams like Houston but they have yet to win it all.
Not that Portland will win it all but interesting how they brought Melo in and are allowing him to post up. They also have Lillard and McCollum who like to drive and play inside the stripe. Still think 3pt. shooting will continue to be important for any winning team but think the idea that you cant win inside the line may have been over emphasized during the GS era and a big reason Memo,was not brought in by so many teams.