RonRon wrote:With Phil Jackson and his "new era" he is already setting the tone that he is willing to overpay for talents that have under achieved and have NO LEVERAGE, something he has MOCKED NEW YORK FOR DOING for many years as he repeats it, that is what really hurts with these signings, I would rather walk away and setting the tone for future FA's rather than overpaying and getting rid of that "FISH/DONKEY" franchise that I thought Phil Jackson was trying to change the perception off

like i said before RonRon, all the time you use on thinking of these brilliant algorithms are meaningless to phil. he and the knicks brass arent thinking so hard to find these diamonds in the rough like you are.

RonRon wrote:With Phil Jackson and his "new era" he is already setting the tone that he is willing to overpay for talents that have under achieved and have NO LEVERAGE, something he has MOCKED NEW YORK FOR DOING for many years as he repeats it, that is what really hurts with these signings, I would rather walk away and setting the tone for future FA's rather than overpaying and getting rid of that "FISH/DONKEY" franchise that I thought Phil Jackson was trying to change the perception off

I don't see what the problem is really. Phil had a great draft and made smart moves with RoLo and Afflalo. One move for a kid like DWill doesn't constitute a return to the Knicks of the past when put in perspective to everything else he has done this summer. This is really some class A exaggeration!!! Think about what you're saying here. ONE MOVE counterbalances everything else Phil did? I don't think so. These are the kind of opinions that keep me stressing the positive. My sole purpose has become bringing balance to this forum.

nixluva wrote:

RonRon wrote:With Phil Jackson and his "new era" he is already setting the tone that he is willing to overpay for talents that have under achieved and have NO LEVERAGE, something he has MOCKED NEW YORK FOR DOING for many years as he repeats it, that is what really hurts with these signings, I would rather walk away and setting the tone for future FA's rather than overpaying and getting rid of that "FISH/DONKEY" franchise that I thought Phil Jackson was trying to change the perception off

I don't see what the problem is really. Phil had a great draft and made smart moves with RoLo and Afflalo. One move for a kid like DWill doesn't constitute a return to the Knicks of the past when put in perspective to everything else he has done this summer. This is really some class A exaggeration!!! Think about what you're saying here. ONE MOVE counterbalances everything else Phil did? I don't think so. These are the kind of opinions that keep me stressing the positive. My sole purpose has become bringing balance to this forum.

It is hard to be as optimistic as you are
Out of all my friends, that are Knick fans and haters, many love to mock me, and I have been the most optimistic for many years already, however, you take it to a HIGHER/COMPLETELY different level

Which makes me and many other here question your very biased evaluations, even possibly a poster that works for MSG and has defended many questionable Knicks moves from coaching/players for many years
Seriously, it is really that biased, and that is why I break your balls every so often, though I do enjoy reading your optimistic approach at times and sometimes I just really wonder....
You still defend the trade for AB and right from the start you have said that it was "possibly" a great move along with signings of Kidd/Pablo and MWP, which I felt were ALL HORRIBLE MOVES as we needed talent to go with leadership, as they provided leadership, they were horrible defensive fits for us
Leaving yet another hole for us and Tyson Chandler that needed to HELP DEFEND as he never got help with another 7 footer when he helped his team mates but then would be out of position from his man for rebounds/OFF rebounds and putbacks, and after awhile he grew very frustrated

I do like the job that Phil Jackson has done for the draft, though I would prefer he went another direction with Grant and the 35th pick, with either Bobby Portis, Sam Decker, or even Justin Anderson (as Briggs felt was a TOP 6th worthy talent in this draft) especially with Bobby Portis who I think has a chance to be a future ALL STAR that can contribute right away as a double double with a pair of blocks and steals in 20-25 minutes of action, especially if we sign JO to work with this guy to help reach his potential

In the triangle system, I would be happy with

Galloway, Calderon, maybe Shved or Lin to cap friendly deals, as well as a defensive guard like Norris Cole which Quin Cook could be, maybe Aaron Harrison

Though I believe the 35th pick was used to give insurance and confidence for KP, that we are not drafting him for a future trade, I think there were other more qualified talents from PG/SG's, SG/SF's, and PF/C's that could contribute now, like with a Taj Gibson type player in Rakeem Christmas, a product of Syracuse for rebounding/defense/finishing under the basket

some others include

Pat Connaughton for leadership/defense/toughness/high work ethic/lock room presence and setting tone in work outs/gym/great locker room guy, that could be this year's Delly, who plays BIGGER than his height/size, as backup rotational SF, maybe SG or undersized PF, that could shoot very well and extremely HIGH IQ/TEAM PLAYER/DEFENDER

SG/SF's
Norman Powell/ Josh Richardson/ JP Tokyo/ Brandon Dawson/ Darrun Hilliard

Andrew Harrison/Marcus Thortan/Olivier Hanlan/Joseph Young as big PG's
Tyler Harvey as a scorer/gunner that could be a Jamal Crawford/Steph Curry type range

Arturas Gudaitis/Dakari Johnson as PF/C's

I was not sure if he Phil was planning to use some salary to absorb bad contracts/assets, however, after these signings it is apparent that he is trying to build contend with role players
It seems Phil Jackson's plan is to try to compete for a play off spot and NOT fully build in the best interest for our future with our salary cap

If that was the case, then NOT signing Greg Monroe was BIG mistake, while he probably would have SIGNED RIGHT away if we didn't try to get DeANdre Jordan/LA, if we were not planning to trade Calderon *which will cost assets* or consider stretching him, which would effect our salary cap for a couple of seasons
It just wasn't realistic to get any of THE TOP TIER guys and to make Monroe wait it out, he likely would have taken 500k less but NOTHING more than that as he already took less in order to be in position by signing a qualifying offer, and had we signed him, and made Robin Lopez an offer of 11m per season, I do believe he would have taken it, to play with Monroe, and leave us a bit of wiggle room to utilize
Either to offer AB as our backup PF/C or at least, 1 maybe 2 contracts to 3year deal for Thanasis or a undrafted FA like Christian Wood with partial guarantees and 3year deals with team options

nixluva wrote:

RonRon wrote:

nixluva wrote:

RonRon wrote:With Phil Jackson and his "new era" he is already setting the tone that he is willing to overpay for talents that have under achieved and have NO LEVERAGE, something he has MOCKED NEW YORK FOR DOING for many years as he repeats it, that is what really hurts with these signings, I would rather walk away and setting the tone for future FA's rather than overpaying and getting rid of that "FISH/DONKEY" franchise that I thought Phil Jackson was trying to change the perception off

I don't see what the problem is really. Phil had a great draft and made smart moves with RoLo and Afflalo. One move for a kid like DWill doesn't constitute a return to the Knicks of the past when put in perspective to everything else he has done this summer. This is really some class A exaggeration!!! Think about what you're saying here. ONE MOVE counterbalances everything else Phil did? I don't think so. These are the kind of opinions that keep me stressing the positive. My sole purpose has become bringing balance to this forum.

It is hard to be as optimistic as you are
Out of all my friends, that are Knick fans and haters, many love to mock me, and I have been the most optimistic for many years already, however, you take it to a HIGHER/COMPLETELY different level

Which makes me and many other here question your very biased evaluations, even possibly a poster that works for MSG and has defended many questionable Knicks moves from coaching/players for many years
Seriously, it is really that biased, and that is why I break your balls every so often, though I do enjoy reading your optimistic approach at times and sometimes I just really wonder....
You still defend the trade for AB and right from the start you have said that it was "possibly" a great move along with signings of Kidd/Pablo and MWP, which I felt were ALL HORRIBLE MOVES as we needed talent to go with leadership, as they provided leadership, they were horrible defensive fits for us
Leaving yet another hole for us and Tyson Chandler that needed to HELP DEFEND as he never got help with another 7 footer when he helped his team mates but then would be out of position from his man for rebounds/OFF rebounds and putbacks, and after awhile he grew very frustrated

I do like the job that Phil Jackson has done for the draft, though I would prefer he went another direction with Grant and the 35th pick, with either Bobby Portis, Sam Decker, or even Justin Anderson (as Briggs felt was a TOP 6th worthy talent in this draft) especially with Bobby Portis who I think has a chance to be a future ALL STAR that can contribute right away as a double double with a pair of blocks and steals in 20-25 minutes of action, especially if we sign JO to work with this guy to help reach his potential

In the triangle system, I would be happy with

Galloway, Calderon, maybe Shved or Lin to cap friendly deals, as well as a defensive guard like Norris Cole which Quin Cook could be, maybe Aaron Harrison

Though I believe the 35th pick was used to give insurance and confidence for KP, that we are not drafting him for a future trade, I think there were other more qualified talents from PG/SG's, SG/SF's, and PF/C's that could contribute now, like with a Taj Gibson type player in Rakeem Christmas, a product of Syracuse for rebounding/defense/finishing under the basket

some others include

Pat Connaughton for leadership/defense/toughness/high work ethic/lock room presence and setting tone in work outs/gym/great locker room guy, that could be this year's Delly, who plays BIGGER than his height/size, as backup rotational SF, maybe SG or undersized PF, that could shoot very well and extremely HIGH IQ/TEAM PLAYER/DEFENDER

SG/SF's
Norman Powell/ Josh Richardson/ JP Tokyo/ Brandon Dawson/ Darrun Hilliard

Andrew Harrison/Marcus Thortan/Olivier Hanlan/Joseph Young as big PG's
Tyler Harvey as a scorer/gunner that could be a Jamal Crawford/Steph Curry type range

Arturas Gudaitis/Dakari Johnson as PF/C's

I was not sure if he Phil was planning to use some salary to absorb bad contracts/assets, however, after these signings it is apparent that he is trying to build contend with role players
It seems Phil Jackson's plan is to try to compete for a play off spot and NOT fully build in the best interest for our future with our salary cap

If that was the case, then NOT signing Greg Monroe was BIG mistake, while he probably would have SIGNED RIGHT away if we didn't try to get DeANdre Jordan/LA, if we were not planning to trade Calderon *which will cost assets* or consider stretching him, which would effect our salary cap for a couple of seasons
It just wasn't realistic to get any of THE TOP TIER guys and to make Monroe wait it out, he likely would have taken 500k less but NOTHING more than that as he already took less in order to be in position by signing a qualifying offer, and had we signed him, and made Robin Lopez an offer of 11m per season, I do believe he would have taken it, to play with Monroe, and leave us a bit of wiggle room to utilize
Either to offer AB as our backup PF/C or at least, 1 maybe 2 contracts to 3year deal for Thanasis or a undrafted FA like Christian Wood with partial guarantees and 3year deals with team options

Nothing wrong with having a different players you liked. I will say that what you may be underestimating is the skills and knowledge in Phil and his team. They aren't just grabbing players randomly. They are thinking this thru in terms of how to structure this team properly. The have FAR more knowledge of what it takes to win in this league and how to build a team that can function at a high level.

Just remember this, once Philly built a team around one star with a team full of selfless hard working players. The Mavs won it all with one true superstar and a lot of high quality players. There's more than one way to build a winning team.

I think Phil deserves a lot more respect for having the vision to rebuild this roster with patience and intelligence and doing a great job of executing his plan. He clearly had contingency plans for whatever happened. For once we need to give it up to Phil for doing a good job when he had the real assets to work with. You've gotta start somewhere and Phil is taking a methodical approach to building this team THE RIGHT WAY.

And you may have been too optimistic and unrealistic of AB, Jason Kidd/Pablo/MWP (FOR THE PLAY OFFS vs legit PLAYOFF TEAMS, as they lacked the speed/quickness needed to play DEFENSE and contribute at their age with our weakness's despite their leadership qualities)

Even last year, you said the same crap about the Triangle, when I said we should not FORCE the issue with running a system with players that have no interest in it, as we should look to slowly incorporate it and run philosophies of the system and other TEAM SYSTEMS, along with the philosophies of the Triangle and some SETS of it, and we should still run more PnR's with the shooters we had to start the season
It takes time to fully execute the system as we need all 5 players to be moving exactly together, in which you replied that I KNEW NOTHING OF THE TRIANGLE and UNDERESTIMATED IT and that YOU FULLY UNDERSTOOD IT

Had we did that, we likely would have been able to build a better trade value for our players that we went for basically NOTHING, though it may also lead us to a lower pick, especially if we did not TANK
Though it was also possible that we trade them 1 month in to it as Cleveland struggled from the START as well, as Phil Jackson was planning for a FULL REBUILD from the start....
We had POST PLAYERS with STAT/CA and shooters in Jason Smith/Calderon *both added*, JR Smith, CA, Hardaway, Pablo, AB *was hurt* and 3nD in Iman, Acey/Travis Wear, Larkin's ability to RUN THE PNR with STAT/CA and other shooters to space the floor
For the Triangle to succeed you need the ability to execute the triangle that could both POST and score, draw double teams, have HIGH IQ, and FACILITATE

NixLuva, no disrespect but...
That is my point on you being too optimistic that it clouds your judgement/perception when it comes to NYK's and whatever Phil Jackson and Knicks do

As it turns out, Kerr DID NOT FULLY RUN THE TRIANGLE, took sets/philosophies of it, ran PnR's, and some of Dantoni's philospohy as Alvin Gentry was part of his staff and took over The Sun's Head COaching job at one point with Nash and the same roster as Dantoni, Kerr admitted it takes time to execute the system with players learning as a whole to implement it...

The year where we won 54 games in one season
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I said from the START I DID NOT BELIEVE in Jason Kidd, along with his age, a couple months in to it, his age showed, and once we played vs The Pacer's our lack of talent didn't reflect on our 54 game season with Woodson's lack of adjustment/system and ISO BALL that many never believed in
You also believed CA would play similar to Dirk, with Jason Kidd running the show, like they did in Dallas, while CA wouldn't be taking many poor shots like he did in the past but with more ball/player movement
There certainly was a chip with that year, after Lin left, as CA reclaimed his Garden, and our older vets wanting to prove older is better with Woodson saying "vets win and young teams do not" in which you also agreed with...

Final year of Woodson's season
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You also believed our 54game win season was not a product of a watered down conference with many injuries in the East on top of it
And AB would be able to do what Copeland could do but DO EVEN BETTER, as a past #1 overall pick, and even go as far as 2009-10 to with videos to showcase his skills while skipping the other years
Unlike Copeland, AB is a LEGIT 7 footer and is quicker and could penetrate, blah blah...

Followed by the next season you believed we could achieve the same thing, with our first miss to the playoffs, then last year, you said the same thing that there was no reason we couldn't be more successful than our 54 game win season

Last season, first year in Triangle
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You believed there was no reason we would be better or = with Derek Fisher and Phil Jackson implementing a new system that would put CA in a position to succeed, as did Kobe/Jordan used in a similar way
With AB/Jason Smith they were skilled 7 footers that could shoot, with Larkin *a former 1st rounder* and Calderon running the show...

Never once do you admit that you were completely wrong, always saying you know more than others, always saying the same crap EVERY YEAR, ALWAYS STAYING OPTIMISTIC
You sound like Wally Z or like a representative of MSG

So do you understand why it is hard to take any of your evaluations of the Knicks seriously?
No matter how you think the Knick's will utilize the players/systems and show constant videos, advanced stats, and how much you think you know more than the other poster here, you have remained wrong but positive year after year...

But you NEVER stop with the positive energy

I do not mean to bash you, I really do not, just want you to see how you are perceived from another posters POV....

and here you go again, THIS YEAR IS DIFFERENT, just like EVERY YEAR, with your quotes from the other post...

The personality of this team is going to be COMPLETELY different next year. So many new players. RoLo and O'Queens really changes the toughness. We already have some upgrades in skills. This is a very good start to bring this team back to respectability. I don't think teams will be expecting to walk over the Knicks next year. There will be much stiffer resistance. That in and of itself is a huge improvement.

nixluva wrote:The personality of this team is going to be COMPLETELY different next year. So many new players. RoLo and O'Queens really changes the toughness. We already have some upgrades in skills. This is a very good start to bring this team back to respectability. I don't think teams will be expecting to walk over the Knicks next year. There will be much stiffer resistance. That in and of itself is a huge improvement.

martin wrote:

EwingsGlass wrote:

crzymdups wrote:

martin wrote:

EwingsGlass wrote:Every player they got is called a "high IQ" player. You can say other players are better players or performed better, but these new role players all have 1 characteristic in common... High IQ. Say what you want, Phil is building his team.

So I have not heard that about Rolo, Afflalo or DWilliams.... is that true? Literally dont know.

It's definitely true for Lopez. I think Afflalo can play well in the right situation. Not sure about Williams.

This was his scouting report in 2011:

Tough and physical, hard to stop at the rim; finishes after contact for easy ‘And 1,′ strong rebounder(8.3 reb. as soph.)
Movement off ball and getting open, always in good position around the basket for an easy finish off a teammate’s pass.
Smart player with great basketball IQ; understands his role and plays within the team, consistent scorer and contributor.
Post moves look solid thanks in part to excellent footwork; excellent inside-out game on the face up.
Good looking shot, much improved jumper from freshman to sophomore year, threat from three (56.8 percent as soph.)
Explosive forward who runs the floor very well and has great bounce, dunks with power and authority.
Clutch, go to player down the stretch of games; made numerous game saving blocks in the final seconds.
http://bleacherreport.com/articles/701891-nba-draft-2011-scouting-report-profile-derrick-Williams

EwingsGlass wrote:Afflalo's draft scouting report:
http://www.nbadraft.net/players/arron-afflalo

Possesses an NBA ready body, blessed with excellent upper body strength Moves extremely well without the ball in his hands, understanding how to free himself for shots Works well running off screens where he is a capable shooter Has three point range on his jumper Good finisher in transition Body strength enables him to convert difficult shots with ease as well as the ability to finish after contact Plays the game with poise and maturity rarely found on the college level Shows great patience, rarely does he play out of control or force the action Simply allows the game to come to him Leadership qualities and the mental toughness he brings each game sets the tone for his team Unselfish player who possesses solid court vision Does a great job of feeding the post Excellent basketball IQ, makes great decisions during games Uses the mid-range jumper with the best of them Despite the coverage if you give him enough daylight his quick release allows for more than enough time to shoot Underrated rebounder capable of making an impact on the glass Defensively he does an admirable job of staying in front of his man Shows good body control when he penetrates the lane Quality free throw shooter Extremely coachable player whose work ethic is among the best in the NCAA Fundamentally he is as sound as them come Despite his struggles in the Final Four last year, he has proven to be a very clutch player ...

Wow good stuff, thanks

The product of nearby Norfolk State, Kyle O'Quinn followed up his impressive NCAA Tournament performance with a terrific showing at the Portsmouth Invitational Tournament. Utilizing his tremendous 7'5 wingspan, O'Quinn could not lead his team to a victory in the Championship Game, but he did garner MVP honors nonetheless. Averaging 11.7 rebounds (3rd best at PIT) and 3.7 blocks (2nd) per-game, O'Quinn's most eye-opening contributions came on the defensive end, where his length allowed him to make a significant impact. He's not an exceptional leaper, but his chiseled frame, incredibly long wingspan and excellent timing made a huge difference for his team.

On the offensive end, O'Quinn finished consistently, but still needs to improve his polish as a post scorer and jump shooter. The center also impressed with his passing ability, seeing holes in the defense and using his high basketball IQ to find an angle to get the ball to open cutters. Though O'Quinn has been at no loss for exposure after Norfolk State's upset of Missouri, there were some question marks about how his production might translate against similarly sized opponents in the NBA. He did an outstanding job putting those to rest, as it was clear that he's one of the best players in the tournament from the moment he stepped on the floor.

From DraftExpress.com http://www.draftexpress.com/#ixzz3ez7ZvrV9
http://www.draftexpress.com

RonRon wrote:

nixluva wrote:You know what's really boring? Going over things we've gone over many, many times already. Let's get one thing straight season predictions are not everything when it comes to evaluating what a team is doing to improve. Getting a season prediction right or wrong doesn't mean that you will be right forever or wrong forever. It's just a prediction, an educated guess, but you can't always predict everything that may go wrong in a given season.

The Bucks, Celtics and Nets made the playoffs with a .500 record or worse. The hope for last year was that we could be a playoff team. Things got off to a horrid start with health issues to key players. Other key players struggled to adjust and Fisher had some issues dealing with all of those issues all at once in his rookie season. I don't believe that things would've been as bad with much better health to start and end the year. Regardless Phil trashed that plan and moved on to a completely different approach. It was a blessing in disguise.

Let's move on beyond that since that season is over and we just made it thru most of this summers rebuilding plan. There are still more roster decisions for Phil to make but on the whole he did the best he could and actually took a very smart approach. This is a slower and more methodical approach. Phil will make smart and incremental improvements and build this thing up properly.

We've got talent for now and for the future. If the Knicks can win next year it should make the team a more attractive destination. Surely better than it was this summer. All i've preached was a little patience to let Phil do what he could to improve the team. This draft and Free Agency was executed about as well as could be done by Phil. You can't control either process 100%.

Your prediction is always positive for The Knicks no matter what
As I point out your flaws, YOU STILL CAN NOT ADMIT that you were wrong, which is fine, but you continue to act as you know more and understand more than others, and that you know how to coach and players will play, despite not knowing

I post plenty of things outside of season predictions that have value. People that want to attack me love to go back to that one thing, which is easy to jump on but is in fact the least of what I post about over the course of any given season. There are tons of other things we talk about.

We need to change the subject cuz this is turning into nothing more than a personal attack rather than talking about basketball or the subject of this thread. How would you like it if I just went back over everything you've ever written and made it a priority to point out when you were wrong? I didn't do that did I?

arkrud wrote:

nixluva wrote:

RonRon wrote:

nixluva wrote:You know what's really boring? Going over things we've gone over many, many times already. Let's get one thing straight season predictions are not everything when it comes to evaluating what a team is doing to improve. Getting a season prediction right or wrong doesn't mean that you will be right forever or wrong forever. It's just a prediction, an educated guess, but you can't always predict everything that may go wrong in a given season.

The Bucks, Celtics and Nets made the playoffs with a .500 record or worse. The hope for last year was that we could be a playoff team. Things got off to a horrid start with health issues to key players. Other key players struggled to adjust and Fisher had some issues dealing with all of those issues all at once in his rookie season. I don't believe that things would've been as bad with much better health to start and end the year. Regardless Phil trashed that plan and moved on to a completely different approach. It was a blessing in disguise.

Let's move on beyond that since that season is over and we just made it thru most of this summers rebuilding plan. There are still more roster decisions for Phil to make but on the whole he did the best he could and actually took a very smart approach. This is a slower and more methodical approach. Phil will make smart and incremental improvements and build this thing up properly.

We've got talent for now and for the future. If the Knicks can win next year it should make the team a more attractive destination. Surely better than it was this summer. All i've preached was a little patience to let Phil do what he could to improve the team. This draft and Free Agency was executed about as well as could be done by Phil. You can't control either process 100%.

Your prediction is always positive for The Knicks no matter what
As I point out your flaws, YOU STILL CAN NOT ADMIT that you were wrong, which is fine, but you continue to act as you know more and understand more than others, and that you know how to coach and players will play, despite not knowing

My posts were about the subject we were talking about and you jump to attacking my past predictions having nothing to do with the subject. My season predications aren't always wrong and most of the time I just track a little higher than most. It's easy to be negative and hit on most years with this teams poor track record the last 15 years.

I post plenty of things outside of season predictions that have value. People that want to attack me love to go back to that one thing, which is easy to jump on but is in fact the least of what I post about over the course of any given season. There are tons of other things we talk about.

We need to change the subject cuz this is turning into nothing more than a personal attack rather than talking about basketball or the subject of this thread. How would you like it if I just went back over everything you've ever written and made it a priority to point out when you were wrong? I didn't do that did I?

Don't worry Nix... Knicks always were great, are great, and will be great team.
Regardless if they suck or not. And they mostly suck already for 15 years.
Love is blind and Knicks love is not only blind but also def.
Hopefully Phil is not blinded with any kind of love to this sore franchise and will continue to approach it as a doctor approaches very sick person who neglected his health for many years.
Knicks need love, but tough love. Not the one you have.

mreinman wrote:Youtube DWil looks great. Stats Dwil ... not so much.

I just don't understand how someone so gifted is not at least an average player. He was very good in college and that's without factoring in his 3pt shooting his sophomore year. Like I said before he should at worst be like Tobias Harris. Does he party too hard? Is he out of shape? He had 10% body fat at the combine but that was 4 yrs ago. That's bad but is it even worse now.

If I was him I would focus on my body, rebounding, defense, and passing. Shooting open jumpers too.

mreinman wrote:

yellowboy90 wrote:

mreinman wrote:Youtube DWil looks great. Stats Dwil ... not so much.

I just don't understand how someone so gifted is not at least an average player. He was very good in college and that's without factoring in his 3pt shooting his sophomore year. Like I said before he should at worst be like Tobias Harris. Does he party too hard? Is he out of shape? He had 10% body fat at the combine but that was 4 yrs ago. That's bad but is it even worse now.

If I was him I would focus on my body, rebounding, defense, and passing. Shooting open jumpers too.

no heart ... you can't teach heart

What's weird is that he was Mr. Intangibles coming out of college. I guess the money changed that. I really wished the knicks had Brian Shaw on staff or someone with a track record with reclamation projects.

nixluva wrote:I post plenty of things outside of season predictions that have value.

I've said this before, you'd probably get less friction if you spent some time reading up on why NBA trades happen ( not from this board, but from paid analysts in established publications), NBA Draft History and the current CBA.

You'd also probably get less friction if you didn't condescend to others who don't agree with you but aren't actively gunning for you. A lot of times, you don't respect other people's views, sometimes even basic facts, and hide behind this veil of "optimism" If you were just giving some back and forth to some of the regular board cretins, then ok, so what, but you take it further than that.

Unless you have Aspergers, I simply can't see any one single person who participates here as much as you do, follow the game as much as you do and be that oblivious to how the NBA actually operates. I agree with Splat that you're a soft cover shill/troll to generate participation in general.

That's my take on it, do what you want.