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smackeddog
Posts: 38391 Alba Posts: 0 Joined: 3/30/2005 Member: #883 |
4/12/2015 4:34 PM
nixluva wrote:It helps sometimes to actually see a player and not just his stats. He has skills that fit the Triangle. Passing, rebounding, running the floor, finishing and posting. Gunsnewing is going to blow his stack when he sees Monroe shoots 100% in those YouTube clips |
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callmened
Posts: 24448 Alba Posts: 1 Joined: 5/26/2012 Member: #4234 |
4/12/2015 4:38 PM
I have no problem with this. As long as we get towns!!
Knicks should be improved: win about 40 games and maybe sneak into the playoffs. Melo, Rose and even Noah will have some nice moments however this team should be about PORZINGUS. the sooner they make him the primary player, the better
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codeunknown
Posts: 22615 Alba Posts: 9 Joined: 7/14/2004 Member: #704 |
4/12/2015 4:39 PM LAST EDITED: 4/12/2015 4:40 PM
yellowboy90 wrote:Bonn1997 wrote:codeunknown wrote:The guy the Knicks should attempt to get is Deandre Jordan. In addition to any of the top 4 draft options, it would be a strong off season. 20 million better spent than 16-17 million on Monroe. Sh-t in the popcorn to go with sh-t on the court. Its a theme show like Medieval times.
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holfresh
Posts: 38679 Alba Posts: 0 Joined: 1/14/2006 Member: #1081 |
4/12/2015 4:43 PM
I got a novel idea..How about we tell our coach who is all of a sudden inspired to win games to try and lose the next two..Hopefully we can draft our own center with luck..
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gunsnewing
Posts: 55076 Alba Posts: 5 Joined: 2/24/2002 Member: #215 USA |
4/12/2015 5:01 PM
smackeddog wrote:nixluva wrote:It helps sometimes to actually see a player and not just his stats. He has skills that fit the Triangle. Passing, rebounding, running the floor, finishing and posting. lol only 100%? I'll pass |
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Bonn1997
Posts: 58654 Alba Posts: 2 Joined: 2/2/2004 Member: #581 USA |
4/12/2015 6:44 PM LAST EDITED: 4/12/2015 6:46 PM
yellowboy90 wrote:Bonn1997 wrote:codeunknown wrote:The guy the Knicks should attempt to get is Deandre Jordan. In addition to any of the top 4 draft options, it would be a strong off season. I saw one study that you need to hit 47% FTs to break even (because it counts offensive rebounds). Even if you do need to hit slightly higher, I'd imagine this results in him costing you maybe a point a week at the line (compared to an average possession, not compared to an average FT shooter). He more than makes up for that elsewhere. |
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gunsnewing
Posts: 55076 Alba Posts: 5 Joined: 2/24/2002 Member: #215 USA |
4/12/2015 6:46 PM LAST EDITED: 4/12/2015 6:48 PM
Hypothetically speaking since the Knicks are blowing their chances at winning the lottery and drafting Towns. Monroe & Drummond Form the slowest front court in the league without question. Whereas Towns is athletic and a rim protector who can guard the perimeter with his lateral quickness as we saw in the tournament. Offensively he spaces the floor. Towns/Monroe is a potentially a perfect match. Certain a viable and realistic option to drastically improve this team
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mreinman
Posts: 37827 Alba Posts: 1 Joined: 7/14/2010 Member: #3189 |
4/12/2015 6:49 PM
Hey Guns,
What do you think of this guy Towns?
so here is what phil is thinking ....
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knickscity
Posts: 24533 Alba Posts: 0 Joined: 6/2/2012 Member: #4241 USA |
4/12/2015 7:10 PM
Some of you guys are so predictable. If any report comes out that the Knicks are interested in someone, cue up how he's a great fit, or.....the triangle allows for pick and rolls etc....lol.
Now isola trying to hurt the Knicks? Please, he wasnt the first one to write something like this, and I hope it does prevent us from signing him. Great job Isola. |
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mreinman
Posts: 37827 Alba Posts: 1 Joined: 7/14/2010 Member: #3189 |
4/12/2015 7:18 PM
knickscity wrote:Some of you guys are so predictable. If any report comes out that the Knicks are interested in someone, cue up how he's a great fit, or.....the triangle allows for pick and rolls etc....lol. You are right, though Isola is a dope. so here is what phil is thinking ....
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nixluva
Posts: 56258 Alba Posts: 0 Joined: 10/5/2004 Member: #758 USA |
4/12/2015 7:25 PM
knickscity wrote:Some of you guys are so predictable. If any report comes out that the Knicks are interested in someone, cue up how he's a great fit, or.....the triangle allows for pick and rolls etc....lol. 1st of all there's a reason that people say Monroe would be a good fit in the Triangle. It's about his skills. He's a post big who can rebound and pass. That's a very clear need on this team. He's not a great defensive player but in most every other aspect his game fits. Now it's not true that every player gets the positive treatment when it comes to being a fit in NY. Rondo doesn't really fit the Triangle. He's a ball dominant PG who doesn't shoot well. He can pass but since this system isn't really overly reliant on a passing PG, especially one who can't shoot, it's not a good fit. A kid like D'Angelo Russell would be a good fit since he can shoot, drive and pass, but doesn't have to have the ball all the time in order to be effective. With regard to Isola, the dude clearly takes great glee in tweaking the Knicks anytime he can. This is just another situation where he's trying to mess with the Knicks. It doesn't matter if he was the 1st one to broach this subject or not, his particular take has spread like wildfire so it's not just a case of us making too much of it. It's not a good thing for a writer to be having a negative impact on who we can sign or not. What if it's a player you like next time? Think before you write next time! |
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gunsnewing
Posts: 55076 Alba Posts: 5 Joined: 2/24/2002 Member: #215 USA |
4/12/2015 7:37 PM
knickscity wrote:Some of you guys are so predictable. If any report comes out that the Knicks are interested in someone, cue up how he's a great fit, or.....the triangle allows for pick and rolls etc....lol. Not true I've touting a Towns/Monroe/Melo front court all year with the possibility of a Jimmy Butler/Lance Stephenson in the backcourt. Nice mix offense/defense and synergy |
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knickscity
Posts: 24533 Alba Posts: 0 Joined: 6/2/2012 Member: #4241 USA |
4/12/2015 7:39 PM
nixluva wrote:knickscity wrote:Some of you guys are so predictable. If any report comes out that the Knicks are interested in someone, cue up how he's a great fit, or.....the triangle allows for pick and rolls etc....lol. So what? Phil tried to trade for Rondo, and Reggie Jackson. neither are triangle fits. And he plain as day said he wants a player like Tyson, another non triangle fit. Newsflash....Phil aint just trying to get triangle players, but actual basketball players, and ironically all those guys are known for defense. But go ahead, blame isola for why Monroe wont sign. Cant be serious. take your own advice and think before you write, perhaps halfd of posts wouldnt have been created. |
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knickscity
Posts: 24533 Alba Posts: 0 Joined: 6/2/2012 Member: #4241 USA |
4/12/2015 7:43 PM
gunsnewing wrote:knickscity wrote:Some of you guys are so predictable. If any report comes out that the Knicks are interested in someone, cue up how he's a great fit, or.....the triangle allows for pick and rolls etc....lol. The first time I've heard Monroe to the Knicks was last summer before he signed the QO. |
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foosballnick
Posts: 21535 Alba Posts: 0 Joined: 6/17/2010 Member: #3148 |
4/12/2015 8:26 PM
knickscity wrote:Some of you guys are so predictable. If any report comes out that the Knicks are interested in someone, cue up how he's a great fit, or.....the triangle allows for pick and rolls etc....lol. As opposed to every rumor coming out and the same people banging the Phil's an idiot drum. Or how about the phol's an idiot if he signs Monroe and still an idiot if he doesn't sign Monroe since Isola is now the reason that the Knicks would be blocked from signing Monroe. |
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nixluva
Posts: 56258 Alba Posts: 0 Joined: 10/5/2004 Member: #758 USA |
4/12/2015 8:44 PM
knickscity wrote:nixluva wrote:knickscity wrote:Some of you guys are so predictable. If any report comes out that the Knicks are interested in someone, cue up how he's a great fit, or.....the triangle allows for pick and rolls etc....lol. 1. You're trying to change the subject. I was talking about you dissing other Knicks fans, claiming that we make the case for every player that the Knicks may be interested in or rumored to get. I was just proving that this isn't true and as usual it was an exaggeration. We don't like every player that gets mentioned as coming to the Knicks. That was my point. 2. All that said if a good player who has value comes available Phil would be a fool not to inquire. Phil has to make attempts to improve the talent on the roster. Getting better talent in a trade can serve the purpose of increasing a teams assets, so if he could grab a player with value that would be smart. He could then flip that player for picks or other players. It doesn't mean he necessarily felt that either Rondo or Reggie was a perfect player for the system in every regard. He's not going to always be able to stick to what is prototypical Triangle skilled players at every single position. 3. Contrary to what you think they are going to be prioritizing Skills that fit the system. - Phil said he "knows" whom he wants to draft. "We want a player that has multiple skills." He also mentioned "We have zero big men" under contract next year. Asked if he'd prefer a big man who can pass and score or one who can defend, he didn't even wait a millisecond: "Defender." This led to an elaboration on why he traded Tyson Chandler, namely Tyson's injuries last year and the fact that he's in his thirties. But he did cite Chandler as the type of big man he wants to add, citing that with "so many screen/rolls, so many threes" in the game now, you need a big man who can contend with all that. Tweet was deleted or there was problem with the URL: Tweet was deleted or there was problem with the URL: When you take ALL OF PHIL'S statements and not just one statement out of context it's pretty clear that Phil would prefer players that have the right overall skills for the Triangle, but if he couldn't get a 2 way guy he'd prefer one that was defensive player over offensive. There's nothing contradictory about that. It's sound logic and follows what he's done over the decades. |
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knickscity
Posts: 24533 Alba Posts: 0 Joined: 6/2/2012 Member: #4241 USA |
4/12/2015 9:20 PM
Nix, what {hil says and what he does are not the same. Dont care what he did as a coach...he isnt coaching. He has targetted players who are NOT triangle fits. You can deal with that however you choose, but those are facts.
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knickscity
Posts: 24533 Alba Posts: 0 Joined: 6/2/2012 Member: #4241 USA |
4/12/2015 9:22 PM
foosballnick wrote:knickscity wrote:Some of you guys are so predictable. If any report comes out that the Knicks are interested in someone, cue up how he's a great fit, or.....the triangle allows for pick and rolls etc....lol. Sounds about right...lol. |
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nyk4ever
Posts: 41010 Alba Posts: 12 Joined: 1/12/2005 Member: #848 USA |
4/12/2015 10:24 PM LAST EDITED: 4/12/2015 10:31 PM
why are we in such a rush to throw our cap space around? monroe isn't going to be worth the money he's going to ask for, so why give it to him? especially if we draft a guy like towns, we don't need to put monroe next to him, we can find a much cheaper alternative that fits next to towns.
and to speak on what code said.... imagine a defensive frontcourt of towns and deandre jordan? im not really in love with jordan and he'd command a ton of money, but that frontcourt would be insane defensively, they'd be blocking shots left and right and it's pretty efficient offensively as well. jordan comes at quite a price though. "OMG - did we just go on a two-trade-wining-streak?" -SupremeCommander
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