NardDogNation wrote:The Celtics need to trade Rondo immediately for whatever assets they can get for him. He's been looking less than stellar while Marcus Smart looks like a star in the waiting. They are playing the Mavs exceptionally well tonight and I've been thoroughly impressed with their roster and Brad Stevens coaching (which dates back to last season).

Rondo looked like vintage Rondo game 1 of the season

He's averaging over 10ast/gm and he didn't play 1 preseason game

He's a breath away from a walking triple double

Not refuting whether they need to trade him

But I think he's close to what he was or approaching it rapidly

NardDogNation wrote:

F500ONE wrote:

NardDogNation wrote:The Celtics need to trade Rondo immediately for whatever assets they can get for him. He's been looking less than stellar while Marcus Smart looks like a star in the waiting. They are playing the Mavs exceptionally well tonight and I've been thoroughly impressed with their roster and Brad Stevens coaching (which dates back to last season).

Rondo looked like vintage Rondo game 1 of the season

He's averaging over 10ast/gm and he didn't play 1 preseason game

He's a breath away from a walking triple double

Not refuting whether they need to trade him

But I think he's close to what he was or approaching it rapidly

I wasn't doubting that Rondo couldn't regain his form. I just think that he's going through the motions and so long as he's doing that, the Celtics run the risk of his trade value plummetting. They are already losing leverage the closer they get to the offseason and can't have that compounded by disinterested play.

On a side, Jeff Green has been looking pretty good. Could he finally be fulfilling his potential? Once upon a time, I thought we could acquire him (as well as Brandon Bass and Gerald Wallace) for Amare's expirer but now I'm not too sure.

You're past fulfilling potential mode

When you almost have 10yrs in the league

Jeff Green has always underachieved but he's a nice player

He probably is coveted by quite a few teams

gunsnewing wrote:Love him or hate him Prokorov is hilarious with this comments on Kidd
"Don't let the door hit you where the good lord split you"

On losing $144mil last season, "It's not a big deal"

Prokorov is having fun and his purchase of Nets and share of Barclays was genious.
He dropped "Branding" on us by admitting getting pierce and Garnett was about increasing the brand awareness.

Personally I love the Russian and am facinated by the Nets approach, even if it fails!!!! The infusion of euro's speaks to his "Branding" to appeal in Europe.
Billy King has a plan. Not to say all plans succeed but its a plan. They take chances and its interesting!

Im fine with the Nets succeeding as long as its not at the expense of the knicks!

NardDogNation wrote:Is it just me or is Brian Shaw and AWFUL head coach?

His biggest weakness is not knowing who he should play

And which players play better with each other

What happened is yesterday's game should be pretty obvious

At least for the rest of this month who he's gotta roll with

He finally benched Gallo in favor of Chandler

And if Chandler doesn't pick it up fast

He may have to bench him in favor of Gee

Denver's biggest strength right now is their athleticism

Those are the players he needs play together the majority of minutes

Play the other guys who have skills and are more suited for a half court game together

Nalod wrote:That trade is a few years and Nets certainly have not benefited on the court from it.
Deron had his dreaded surgeries and seems to be on a path to getting back to where he was.

He really bottomed out last year.

The Jazz have been rebuilding for a few years now. Favors is a good player but not really blossomed into someone special yet. He is still young.

In the New CBA Jazz have been going about it the right way. They draw very well in Salt Lake and its the only game in town.

Well if we use the Melo trade rationale

What was New Jersey before they traded for Deron

What was Brooklyn after they traded for Deron

They have made the playoffs 2 straight yrs and

They won 2 first round series in 2yrs and

Won more regular season and playoff games over the past 2yrs than we have

We also both have the same record at this current time

Brooklyn's main issue probably isn't Deron but moreso Lopez

And not having immediate future assets in the fold to add to their foundation

mreinman wrote:

F500ONE wrote:

Nalod wrote:That trade is a few years and Nets certainly have not benefited on the court from it.
Deron had his dreaded surgeries and seems to be on a path to getting back to where he was.

He really bottomed out last year.

The Jazz have been rebuilding for a few years now. Favors is a good player but not really blossomed into someone special yet. He is still young.

In the New CBA Jazz have been going about it the right way. They draw very well in Salt Lake and its the only game in town.

Well if we use the Melo trade rationale

What was New Jersey before they traded for Deron

What was Brooklyn after they traded for Deron

They have made the playoffs 2 straight yrs and

They won 2 first round series in 2yrs and

Won more regular season and playoff games over the past 2yrs than we have

We also both have the same record at this current time

Brooklyn's main issue probably isn't Deron but moreso Lopez

And not having immediate future assets in the fold to add to their foundation

who cares about first round wins? And, Deron was not the reason why they went to the playoffs.

You are attempting to compare two very different situations.

Agreed never understood why this was stated

In justifying the Melo trade referring to the 54win season and playoffs

First round exits right?

As far as Deron true he hasn't proved his worth

Neither really has Melo

It can make some feel good they feel Melo is better than him

And we've received more value in comparison but who cares

We didn't trade for Melo to walk away saying he's better than Deron

As of the here and now Brooklyn also has a Top 5 offense

Jazz have yet to sniff the playoffs so drawing attention away from Deron

I think this needs to be addressed first if you're going to anoint their state of affairs