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mreinman
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3/12/2014  10:09 PM
yellowboy90 wrote:THJr making a run at Reggie's shooting stats. lol. the turnaround has begun.

can we predict the hall of fame right now?

so here is what phil is thinking ....
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3/12/2014  10:11 PM
Hahn's box score player of the game was shumpert ... interesting
so here is what phil is thinking ....
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3/12/2014  10:11 PM
What I liked from this game was seeing the players rotate on D especially Cole and Melo. I also liked seeing them two actually block out their men and not try to just tap it back(even though that has value). Also, having a rim Protector is always nice but his one on one D needs work. He is young.
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3/12/2014  10:12 PM
mreinman wrote:
CrushAlot wrote:Doc has to do the next game thread. 5-0.

Dk was our good luck charm.

This game thread needed balance.

The funny thing is I've been making the game threads, but I haven't been able to actually watch these games! But if it ain't broke…

And this thread was great to read with dk and mreinman and everybody… great way to re-cap.

Don't shame tread on me!

Baba Booey 2016 — "It's Silly Season"
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3/12/2014  10:17 PM
yellowboy90 wrote:What I liked from this game was seeing the players rotate on D especially Cole and Melo. I also liked seeing them two actually block out their men and not try to just tap it back(even though that has value). Also, having a rim Protector is always nice but his one on one D needs work. He is young.

Lets be real. Tyson's one on one D sux. He does not block shots, has horrible hands, no offensive moves (see coles lefty layup tonight?) and has a sh1tty attitude. To me, the worst move the knicks made out of all of them is wasting our amnesty on this guy.

Golden State (when they sucked) was the only other team to offer Tyson a contract we got played and we lost our leverage.

Why now when Bill Simmons calls him out does he all of the sudden show much more heart? Really? Can't you have some phuckin heart at 13 million?

I know he is efficient but he really hurts offensive flow. Especially since we have no PG which he needs.

so here is what phil is thinking ....
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3/12/2014  10:18 PM
mreinman wrote:
yellowboy90 wrote:THJr making a run at Reggie's shooting stats. lol. the turnaround has begun.

can we predict the hall of fame right now?

Nah, give it two more games like the last two and HOF here we come.

On another note, he had several opportunities to attack the glass or grab a few long rebounds and he just didn't do it. If the D doesn't come up to par I just hope he can attack the glass better. Maybe become the two guard version of Kevin Love. lol.

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3/12/2014  10:23 PM    LAST EDITED: 3/12/2014  10:23 PM
yellowboy90 wrote:
mreinman wrote:
yellowboy90 wrote:THJr making a run at Reggie's shooting stats. lol. the turnaround has begun.

can we predict the hall of fame right now?

Nah, give it two more games like the last two and HOF here we come.

On another note, he had several opportunities to attack the glass or grab a few long rebounds and he just didn't do it. If the D doesn't come up to par I just hope he can attack the glass better. Maybe become the two guard version of Kevin Love. lol.

I want to see solid consistency out of him. He is too streaky for my taste.

zero assists, weak defense (though his rotations were much better tonight).

6 ft attempts are good to see.

He has upside and has a pure stroke but lets see how he progresses

so here is what phil is thinking ....
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3/12/2014  10:33 PM
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mreinman wrote:
CrushAlot wrote:Doc has to do the next game thread. 5-0.

Dk was our good luck charm.

This game thread needed balance.

The funny thing is I've been making the game threads, but I haven't been able to actually watch these games! But if it ain't broke…

And this thread was great to read with dk and mreinman and everybody… great way to re-cap.

Don't shame tread on me!

10 pages so far vs 4 pages for the last game.

Nice to see an active game thread. Lets keep it up.

so here is what phil is thinking ....
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3/12/2014  10:43 PM
mreinman wrote:
yellowboy90 wrote:
mreinman wrote:
yellowboy90 wrote:THJr making a run at Reggie's shooting stats. lol. the turnaround has begun.

can we predict the hall of fame right now?

Nah, give it two more games like the last two and HOF here we come.

On another note, he had several opportunities to attack the glass or grab a few long rebounds and he just didn't do it. If the D doesn't come up to par I just hope he can attack the glass better. Maybe become the two guard version of Kevin Love. lol.

I want to see solid consistency out of him. He is too streaky for my taste.

zero assists, weak defense (though his rotations were much better tonight).

6 ft attempts are good to see.

He has upside and has a pure stroke but lets see how he progresses

I agree. He shows some promise but nothing to go to any extremes over. I think some defensive weaknesses will come as he matures in his body and gets stronger. 5lbs maybe 10lbs and he will probably be a better defender because he want get pushed around as much. More than the weight is just adding strength. I also think the assist will come as he starts running more curls off of screens and not just flare outs behind the 3. If ran right it should create a 2 on 1 with a easy lay up, jumper, or ast to the big who just made the screen. Then if he adds some PnR ability as a ball handler that would be nice.

Every offseason he/coaching staff/S&C staff should try to add a couple of pieces to his D and O. Agility work and becoming more flexible in his hips are key. Yoga and palates would be ideal for him.

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3/12/2014  11:43 PM
Papabear Says

A win is a win I will take it. And a sicko is a sicko and they can't help themselves. If you followed what a sicko posted and you followed his stink trail you must ask yourself how can one person be so sick and hateful. One thing for sure Melo will retire a Knick. So within 5 years or less that sicko will go crazy and be on a funny farm.
Melo Melo Melo Melo Melo.

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3/13/2014  5:19 AM
Great to get another win- loved Aldrich's game, and I liked Earl Clark too. Tyler was pretty bad tonight- seemed quite bumbling throughout.

DK- what do you mean we only beat the Celtics without Rondo? I thought you said injuries are an excuse?! Without Tyson, Amar'e, K-Mart and Bargs, we really aren't much better than the Cetics anyways aside from Melo.

JR has been strangely low key and dare I say it (jinx!) consistent for the past month or two- what the heck is going on?!

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3/13/2014  8:08 AM
smackeddog wrote:Great to get another win- loved Aldrich's game, and I liked Earl Clark too. Tyler was pretty bad tonight- seemed quite bumbling throughout.

DK- what do you mean we only beat the Celtics without Rondo? I thought you said injuries are an excuse?! Without Tyson, Amar'e, K-Mart and Bargs, we really aren't much better than the Cetics anyways aside from Melo.

JR has been strangely low key and dare I say it (jinx!) consistent for the past month or two- what the heck is going on?!

i repeat: who cares about a win or a loss at this point. if they miss the playoffs denver gets a pick and if they make the playoffs they get destroyed in round one just like most of melo teams.

the players know that so they are auditioning at this point.

please don't tell me i must not be a fan for seeing the situation this way.

knicks win 38-43 games in 16-17. rose MUST shoot no more than 14 shots per game, defer to kp6 + melo, and have a usage rate of less than 25%
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3/13/2014  8:10 AM
dk7th wrote:garbage time.

against a lottery team melo goes

11-25
2 assists
59%TS

that is efficient scoring but against a pacer or heat team he is not going to help his team win.

tomorrow morning we should look at basketballreference.com and see what his usage and and assist rate is. my guess based on the eye test is that the ratio will remain 2:1 or greater. around 34% and 16%

that is counterproductive.

usage 35.4% and 8.6% assist rate. 4.11 to 1.

that ratio will translate to losses against title contenders.

knicks win 38-43 games in 16-17. rose MUST shoot no more than 14 shots per game, defer to kp6 + melo, and have a usage rate of less than 25%
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3/13/2014  9:14 AM
dk7th wrote:
smackeddog wrote:Great to get another win- loved Aldrich's game, and I liked Earl Clark too. Tyler was pretty bad tonight- seemed quite bumbling throughout.

DK- what do you mean we only beat the Celtics without Rondo? I thought you said injuries are an excuse?! Without Tyson, Amar'e, K-Mart and Bargs, we really aren't much better than the Cetics anyways aside from Melo.

JR has been strangely low key and dare I say it (jinx!) consistent for the past month or two- what the heck is going on?!

i repeat: who cares about a win or a loss at this point. if they miss the playoffs denver gets a pick and if they make the playoffs they get destroyed in round one just like most of melo teams.

the players know that so they are auditioning at this point.

please don't tell me i must not be a fan for seeing the situation this way.

please enjoy yourself as you hate this winning streak.

please ensure to up your Paxil if it hits 10 games.

please stay away from open windows if we get out of the first round. Again.

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3/13/2014  9:25 AM
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dk7th wrote:
smackeddog wrote:Great to get another win- loved Aldrich's game, and I liked Earl Clark too. Tyler was pretty bad tonight- seemed quite bumbling throughout.

DK- what do you mean we only beat the Celtics without Rondo? I thought you said injuries are an excuse?! Without Tyson, Amar'e, K-Mart and Bargs, we really aren't much better than the Cetics anyways aside from Melo.

JR has been strangely low key and dare I say it (jinx!) consistent for the past month or two- what the heck is going on?!

i repeat: who cares about a win or a loss at this point. if they miss the playoffs denver gets a pick and if they make the playoffs they get destroyed in round one just like most of melo teams.

the players know that so they are auditioning at this point.

please don't tell me i must not be a fan for seeing the situation this way.

please enjoy yourself as you hate this winning streak.

please ensure to up your Paxil if it hits 10 games.

please stay away from open windows if we get out of the first round. Again.

if something is irrelevant it is neither enjoyable or otherwise. hard not to feel indifferent about this present squad.

phil jackson coming in to potentially give melo the heave-ho and lowballing the shyte out of him financially is going to make GREAT theater.

the clock may be winding down on this nightmare melo era.

new york five games back in the loss column with 16 games to go. improbable that they make the playoffs.

knicks win 38-43 games in 16-17. rose MUST shoot no more than 14 shots per game, defer to kp6 + melo, and have a usage rate of less than 25%
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dk7th wrote:
jrodmc wrote:
dk7th wrote:
smackeddog wrote:Great to get another win- loved Aldrich's game, and I liked Earl Clark too. Tyler was pretty bad tonight- seemed quite bumbling throughout.

DK- what do you mean we only beat the Celtics without Rondo? I thought you said injuries are an excuse?! Without Tyson, Amar'e, K-Mart and Bargs, we really aren't much better than the Cetics anyways aside from Melo.

JR has been strangely low key and dare I say it (jinx!) consistent for the past month or two- what the heck is going on?!

i repeat: who cares about a win or a loss at this point. if they miss the playoffs denver gets a pick and if they make the playoffs they get destroyed in round one just like most of melo teams.

the players know that so they are auditioning at this point.

please don't tell me i must not be a fan for seeing the situation this way.

please enjoy yourself as you hate this winning streak.

please ensure to up your Paxil if it hits 10 games.

please stay away from open windows if we get out of the first round. Again.

if something is irrelevant it is neither enjoyable or otherwise. hard not to feel indifferent about this present squad.

phil jackson coming in to potentially give melo the heave-ho and lowballing the shyte out of him financially is going to make GREAT theater.

the clock may be winding down on this nightmare melo era.

new york five games back in the loss column with 16 games to go. improbable that they make the playoffs.

yea, people are ignoring the loss column.. that is the most important as you can't do anything about the losses.. what that leaves you as a fan is hoping the hawks loose a lot more than you do.... not such a bright outlook if you are trying to make the playoffs....only to get blasted in the first round anyway..

Anyone who sits around and waits for the lottery to better themselves, either in real life or in sports, Is a Loser............... TKF
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tkf wrote:
dk7th wrote:
jrodmc wrote:
dk7th wrote:
smackeddog wrote:Great to get another win- loved Aldrich's game, and I liked Earl Clark too. Tyler was pretty bad tonight- seemed quite bumbling throughout.

DK- what do you mean we only beat the Celtics without Rondo? I thought you said injuries are an excuse?! Without Tyson, Amar'e, K-Mart and Bargs, we really aren't much better than the Cetics anyways aside from Melo.

JR has been strangely low key and dare I say it (jinx!) consistent for the past month or two- what the heck is going on?!

i repeat: who cares about a win or a loss at this point. if they miss the playoffs denver gets a pick and if they make the playoffs they get destroyed in round one just like most of melo teams.

the players know that so they are auditioning at this point.

please don't tell me i must not be a fan for seeing the situation this way.

please enjoy yourself as you hate this winning streak.

please ensure to up your Paxil if it hits 10 games.

please stay away from open windows if we get out of the first round. Again.

if something is irrelevant it is neither enjoyable or otherwise. hard not to feel indifferent about this present squad.

phil jackson coming in to potentially give melo the heave-ho and lowballing the shyte out of him financially is going to make GREAT theater.

the clock may be winding down on this nightmare melo era.

new york five games back in the loss column with 16 games to go. improbable that they make the playoffs.

yea, people are ignoring the loss column.. that is the most important as you can't do anything about the losses.. what that leaves you as a fan is hoping the hawks loose a lot more than you do.... not such a bright outlook if you are trying to make the playoffs....only to get blasted in the first round anyway..

Yeah, loss column during the "junior varsity" portion of the season. Very important, I've been told.

Tell me again how 54 wins last year meant sheehit. Keep talking out of both sides of your fistula.

And here we go, win streaks are meaningless, making the playoffs, meaningless, out of the first round, meaningless, and then once we get out of the first round, we won't make it to the conf finals...and on and on and on.

do you see how inconsistent and incoherent you are? Just cut and paste "I hate Melo" in a number of different fonts and save yourself time...

Got to give you props though, at least you haven't disappeared. Is it Phil that's keeping your interest in this deranged squad of losers surrounding IsoMelo now?

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3/13/2014  11:28 AM
jrodmc wrote:
tkf wrote:
dk7th wrote:
jrodmc wrote:
dk7th wrote:
smackeddog wrote:Great to get another win- loved Aldrich's game, and I liked Earl Clark too. Tyler was pretty bad tonight- seemed quite bumbling throughout.

DK- what do you mean we only beat the Celtics without Rondo? I thought you said injuries are an excuse?! Without Tyson, Amar'e, K-Mart and Bargs, we really aren't much better than the Cetics anyways aside from Melo.

JR has been strangely low key and dare I say it (jinx!) consistent for the past month or two- what the heck is going on?!

i repeat: who cares about a win or a loss at this point. if they miss the playoffs denver gets a pick and if they make the playoffs they get destroyed in round one just like most of melo teams.

the players know that so they are auditioning at this point.

please don't tell me i must not be a fan for seeing the situation this way.

please enjoy yourself as you hate this winning streak.

please ensure to up your Paxil if it hits 10 games.

please stay away from open windows if we get out of the first round. Again.

if something is irrelevant it is neither enjoyable or otherwise. hard not to feel indifferent about this present squad.

phil jackson coming in to potentially give melo the heave-ho and lowballing the shyte out of him financially is going to make GREAT theater.

the clock may be winding down on this nightmare melo era.

new york five games back in the loss column with 16 games to go. improbable that they make the playoffs.

yea, people are ignoring the loss column.. that is the most important as you can't do anything about the losses.. what that leaves you as a fan is hoping the hawks loose a lot more than you do.... not such a bright outlook if you are trying to make the playoffs....only to get blasted in the first round anyway..

Yeah, loss column during the "junior varsity" portion of the season. Very important, I've been told.

Tell me again how 54 wins last year meant sheehit. Keep talking out of both sides of your fistula.

And here we go, win streaks are meaningless, making the playoffs, meaningless, out of the first round, meaningless, and then once we get out of the first round, we won't make it to the conf finals...and on and on and on.

do you see how inconsistent and incoherent you are? Just cut and paste "I hate Melo" in a number of different fonts and save yourself time...

Got to give you props though, at least you haven't disappeared. Is it Phil that's keeping your interest in this deranged squad of losers surrounding IsoMelo now?

the only thing the knicks can play for is preventing the nuggets from getting their draft pick. if tey don't make the playoffs it makes the melo trade look worse than ever.

and the other thing that these cats are playing for at this point is auditioning for a mount rushmore coach while playing beside a player that is a lonely statue covered in pigeon droppings in some obscure square. wonder what kind of attitude melo will bring from now until the end of this season?

knicks win 38-43 games in 16-17. rose MUST shoot no more than 14 shots per game, defer to kp6 + melo, and have a usage rate of less than 25%
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3/13/2014  1:22 PM
dk7th wrote:
jrodmc wrote:
tkf wrote:
dk7th wrote:
jrodmc wrote:
dk7th wrote:
smackeddog wrote:Great to get another win- loved Aldrich's game, and I liked Earl Clark too. Tyler was pretty bad tonight- seemed quite bumbling throughout.

DK- what do you mean we only beat the Celtics without Rondo? I thought you said injuries are an excuse?! Without Tyson, Amar'e, K-Mart and Bargs, we really aren't much better than the Cetics anyways aside from Melo.

JR has been strangely low key and dare I say it (jinx!) consistent for the past month or two- what the heck is going on?!

i repeat: who cares about a win or a loss at this point. if they miss the playoffs denver gets a pick and if they make the playoffs they get destroyed in round one just like most of melo teams.

the players know that so they are auditioning at this point.

please don't tell me i must not be a fan for seeing the situation this way.

please enjoy yourself as you hate this winning streak.

please ensure to up your Paxil if it hits 10 games.

please stay away from open windows if we get out of the first round. Again.

if something is irrelevant it is neither enjoyable or otherwise. hard not to feel indifferent about this present squad.

phil jackson coming in to potentially give melo the heave-ho and lowballing the shyte out of him financially is going to make GREAT theater.

the clock may be winding down on this nightmare melo era.

new york five games back in the loss column with 16 games to go. improbable that they make the playoffs.

yea, people are ignoring the loss column.. that is the most important as you can't do anything about the losses.. what that leaves you as a fan is hoping the hawks loose a lot more than you do.... not such a bright outlook if you are trying to make the playoffs....only to get blasted in the first round anyway..

Yeah, loss column during the "junior varsity" portion of the season. Very important, I've been told.

Tell me again how 54 wins last year meant sheehit. Keep talking out of both sides of your fistula.

And here we go, win streaks are meaningless, making the playoffs, meaningless, out of the first round, meaningless, and then once we get out of the first round, we won't make it to the conf finals...and on and on and on.

do you see how inconsistent and incoherent you are? Just cut and paste "I hate Melo" in a number of different fonts and save yourself time...

Got to give you props though, at least you haven't disappeared. Is it Phil that's keeping your interest in this deranged squad of losers surrounding IsoMelo now?

the only thing the knicks can play for is preventing the nuggets from getting their draft pick. if tey don't make the playoffs it makes the melo trade look worse than ever.

and the other thing that these cats are playing for at this point is auditioning for a mount rushmore coach while playing beside a player that is a lonely statue covered in pigeon droppings in some obscure square. wonder what kind of attitude melo will bring from now until the end of this season?

dont the nuggets get the knicks picks regardless if we make the playoffs or not?

so here is what phil is thinking ....
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3/13/2014  1:33 PM
mreinman wrote:
dk7th wrote:
jrodmc wrote:
tkf wrote:
dk7th wrote:
jrodmc wrote:
dk7th wrote:
smackeddog wrote:Great to get another win- loved Aldrich's game, and I liked Earl Clark too. Tyler was pretty bad tonight- seemed quite bumbling throughout.

DK- what do you mean we only beat the Celtics without Rondo? I thought you said injuries are an excuse?! Without Tyson, Amar'e, K-Mart and Bargs, we really aren't much better than the Cetics anyways aside from Melo.

JR has been strangely low key and dare I say it (jinx!) consistent for the past month or two- what the heck is going on?!

i repeat: who cares about a win or a loss at this point. if they miss the playoffs denver gets a pick and if they make the playoffs they get destroyed in round one just like most of melo teams.

the players know that so they are auditioning at this point.

please don't tell me i must not be a fan for seeing the situation this way.

please enjoy yourself as you hate this winning streak.

please ensure to up your Paxil if it hits 10 games.

please stay away from open windows if we get out of the first round. Again.

if something is irrelevant it is neither enjoyable or otherwise. hard not to feel indifferent about this present squad.

phil jackson coming in to potentially give melo the heave-ho and lowballing the shyte out of him financially is going to make GREAT theater.

the clock may be winding down on this nightmare melo era.

new york five games back in the loss column with 16 games to go. improbable that they make the playoffs.

yea, people are ignoring the loss column.. that is the most important as you can't do anything about the losses.. what that leaves you as a fan is hoping the hawks loose a lot more than you do.... not such a bright outlook if you are trying to make the playoffs....only to get blasted in the first round anyway..

Yeah, loss column during the "junior varsity" portion of the season. Very important, I've been told.

Tell me again how 54 wins last year meant sheehit. Keep talking out of both sides of your fistula.

And here we go, win streaks are meaningless, making the playoffs, meaningless, out of the first round, meaningless, and then once we get out of the first round, we won't make it to the conf finals...and on and on and on.

do you see how inconsistent and incoherent you are? Just cut and paste "I hate Melo" in a number of different fonts and save yourself time...

Got to give you props though, at least you haven't disappeared. Is it Phil that's keeping your interest in this deranged squad of losers surrounding IsoMelo now?

the only thing the knicks can play for is preventing the nuggets from getting their draft pick. if tey don't make the playoffs it makes the melo trade look worse than ever.

and the other thing that these cats are playing for at this point is auditioning for a mount rushmore coach while playing beside a player that is a lonely statue covered in pigeon droppings in some obscure square. wonder what kind of attitude melo will bring from now until the end of this season?

dont the nuggets get the knicks picks regardless if we make the playoffs or not?

http://www.nba.com/teamsites/nuggets/news/2014-nba-draft-could-carry-intrigue-denver-nuggets

"First and foremost, it’s important to remember that the Nuggets will keep the best pick possible.

If both Denver and New York make the playoffs but the Nuggets finish with a better record, they will get the Knicks’ pick and send their own to Orlando. If New York reaches the postseason with a better record, Denver will keep its own pick.

If Denver makes the playoffs and New York misses the playoffs, the Nuggets will get the Knicks’ lottery pick and send their to the Magic.

If New York makes the playoffs and Denver misses the postseason, the Nuggets keep their own lottery pick, while the Magic inherit the Knicks' pick.

If the Nuggets and Knicks both miss the playoffs, the May 20 draft lottery will determine which pick Denver keeps.

Under the lottery system, a combination of ping-pong balls determines the first three picks of the draft. Teams with the poorest records have increased odds at the top selection, while those with better records have longer odds.

Should Denver and New York both land in the lottery, the Nuggets would have two opportunities to jump into the top-three, regardless of record."

knicks win 38-43 games in 16-17. rose MUST shoot no more than 14 shots per game, defer to kp6 + melo, and have a usage rate of less than 25%
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