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1/31/2014  11:35 AM    LAST EDITED: 1/31/2014  11:36 AM
fishmike wrote:
jrodmc wrote:
fishmike wrote:
Marcala12 wrote:it's like the Melo haters feel obliged to go at it 200% when Melo is playing his best basketball.

Who cares if prime Garnett was slightly better than Melo? That being the case certainly isn't a knock on Melo.

yea... here's some perspective. Your a poster on sports forum who hates your teams best player and have spent the last couple of years dogging him to anyone that will listen all over the internet, and after in pouring word after word you might *just* have convinced someone on the internet that Melo might be a slight notch below a guy whos been MVP and is a first ballot HOF player.

Yea... good job DK-TFK... keep fighting the good fight

Hey, fish, leave tkf's little brother alone.

And have you noticed how Somberly quiet it gets in here when some douchebag cancer franchise record holding selfish smiling doesn't make anyone better Knick has a few nights shooting 50% from the field?

Melo wasnt NOT great here right after the trade. He struggled to fit in, and we saw more than a few moments Melo went out and things took off (Linsanity). He didnt gel with a few players, didnt gel with the coach who tried to put him in a few roles none of which worked. He followed up big games with horrible ones and he shot us out of games in that first Boston series as well.

As you remember I was quite displeased with him considering the price tag.

But

I watched, and watched and watched.

The Knicks got better, and last year they hit a win total not seen since 33 patrolled the paint, and did so built around an innefficient chucker who doesnt defend, is an average rebounder and alienates teammates (tongue and cheek.. yea).

Ive watched Melo game after game and he brings it. He plays his ass off. He hates losing.

Its not my job to convince fans that Melo is great. Thats HIS job, but for phucks sakes at some point you have to open your eyes. If your waiting for Melo to lead us to some deep playoff runs thats fair, but if you dont ack that this guy has been a top flight player for us your just not being honest. I get the knocks, and thats fine.. but what these other donkees are doing are simply littering all these threads with the same redundant crap over and over again. It strikes me as strange behavior. Even for a Knick fan

This is one of the most honest posts I've seen on this site in some time....I certainly remember when you weren't very fond of Melo because I've gone back and forth with you several times.....The fact that you 'as you say' "opened your eyes" shows that you were not posting with an agenda. Too bad the same can't be said about some others....Strange behavior indeed.....

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1/31/2014  12:50 PM
Uptown wrote:
fishmike wrote:
jrodmc wrote:
fishmike wrote:
Marcala12 wrote:it's like the Melo haters feel obliged to go at it 200% when Melo is playing his best basketball.

Who cares if prime Garnett was slightly better than Melo? That being the case certainly isn't a knock on Melo.

yea... here's some perspective. Your a poster on sports forum who hates your teams best player and have spent the last couple of years dogging him to anyone that will listen all over the internet, and after in pouring word after word you might *just* have convinced someone on the internet that Melo might be a slight notch below a guy whos been MVP and is a first ballot HOF player.

Yea... good job DK-TFK... keep fighting the good fight

Hey, fish, leave tkf's little brother alone.

And have you noticed how Somberly quiet it gets in here when some douchebag cancer franchise record holding selfish smiling doesn't make anyone better Knick has a few nights shooting 50% from the field?

Melo wasnt NOT great here right after the trade. He struggled to fit in, and we saw more than a few moments Melo went out and things took off (Linsanity). He didnt gel with a few players, didnt gel with the coach who tried to put him in a few roles none of which worked. He followed up big games with horrible ones and he shot us out of games in that first Boston series as well.

As you remember I was quite displeased with him considering the price tag.

But

I watched, and watched and watched.

The Knicks got better, and last year they hit a win total not seen since 33 patrolled the paint, and did so built around an innefficient chucker who doesnt defend, is an average rebounder and alienates teammates (tongue and cheek.. yea).

Ive watched Melo game after game and he brings it. He plays his ass off. He hates losing.

Its not my job to convince fans that Melo is great. Thats HIS job, but for phucks sakes at some point you have to open your eyes. If your waiting for Melo to lead us to some deep playoff runs thats fair, but if you dont ack that this guy has been a top flight player for us your just not being honest. I get the knocks, and thats fine.. but what these other donkees are doing are simply littering all these threads with the same redundant crap over and over again. It strikes me as strange behavior. Even for a Knick fan

This is one of the most honest posts I've seen on this site in some time....I certainly remember when you weren't very fond of Melo because I've gone back and forth with you several times.....The fact that you 'as you say' "opened your eyes" shows that you were not posting with an agenda. Too bad the same can't be said about some others....Strange behavior indeed.....

I try not be knee jerk... I try to be wait and see but during all those horrible Isiah, Larry Brown, etc, etc years I was dying to just see this team rebuilt. Walsh came in and wasnt perfect but he gutted the roster, drafted some decent talent and things were getting good. We had a young core with Amare (who was playing like a true star) and max cap space. Sky seemed like the limit. Then we overpaid for a guy who couldnt win a playoff game and took 50 shots a game.

But there is more to Melo than that, and JVG used to talk about how bigtime NBA player could impose their will on a game and Melo can do that. Ive seen enough of Melo head to head vs. the elite players of the NBA to see clearly he belongs among them. Yes his game has holes, but if your lucky enough to have a player as good as Melo your MO should be to build around those.

Im still not ra ra ra Melo is god, but the garbage I hear from TFK and DK is just that. Calling a guy "Meloser" when he's one of like 5 NBA players who have never had a single losing season, or "he should only be paid $10-12mm a year" type comments. Stupid and insulting to anyone who doesnt have a personal agenda against this guy.

At least Bonn (disagree as I may) can say why he doesnt like MElo's game (inefficient) but these other guys.. they are like 8 year olds. I keep waiting to hear "I know you are but what am I"

I love the Knicks. I casually followed the NBA as a youth but I fell in love with the Knicks of the 90s. The year they went to the finals I was 20 and was diagnnosed with Hodgkins lymphoma (cancer). I spent that year lying around a whole lot while I was getting destroyed by chemo and radiation. Im 6'3 and weigh about 195. That year I dropped to 137lbs. I looked like a concentration camp refugee. When your that sick you focus on one day at a time and whatever keeps you going. Know what kept me going more than anything? The Knicks. I watched every minute. I developed quiet an emotional attachment to them, and as brutal as that game 7 loss was that was a great ride.

So while I want a title run, I also understand there is a process, and Im damn glad to see the Knick simply playing good ball and being in it again. As you know Im hardly a koolaid drinker, but I can be won over and lost over... slowly. Melo has done it right way. He's played his arse off, yielded Knick wins and his play is noticed around the NBA. All star starter, scoring title, 3rd in MVP voting... sure, you can tear apart any one of those, but when you look at the big picture this is a pretty impressive player. I hope we can build something better than what we have.

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1/31/2014  12:54 PM
fishmike wrote:
jrodmc wrote:
fishmike wrote:
Marcala12 wrote:it's like the Melo haters feel obliged to go at it 200% when Melo is playing his best basketball.

Who cares if prime Garnett was slightly better than Melo? That being the case certainly isn't a knock on Melo.

yea... here's some perspective. Your a poster on sports forum who hates your teams best player and have spent the last couple of years dogging him to anyone that will listen all over the internet, and after in pouring word after word you might *just* have convinced someone on the internet that Melo might be a slight notch below a guy whos been MVP and is a first ballot HOF player.

Yea... good job DK-TFK... keep fighting the good fight

Hey, fish, leave tkf's little brother alone.

And have you noticed how Somberly quiet it gets in here when some douchebag cancer franchise record holding selfish smiling doesn't make anyone better Knick has a few nights shooting 50% from the field?

Melo wasnt NOT great here right after the trade. He struggled to fit in, and we saw more than a few moments Melo went out and things took off (Linsanity). He didnt gel with a few players, didnt gel with the coach who tried to put him in a few roles none of which worked. He followed up big games with horrible ones and he shot us out of games in that first Boston series as well.

As you remember I was quite displeased with him considering the price tag.

But

I watched, and watched and watched.

The Knicks got better, and last year they hit a win total not seen since 33 patrolled the paint, and did so built around an innefficient chucker who doesnt defend, is an average rebounder and alienates teammates (tongue and cheek.. yea).

Ive watched Melo game after game and he brings it. He plays his ass off. He hates losing.

Its not my job to convince fans that Melo is great. Thats HIS job, but for phucks sakes at some point you have to open your eyes. If your waiting for Melo to lead us to some deep playoff runs thats fair, but if you dont ack that this guy has been a top flight player for us your just not being honest. I get the knocks, and thats fine.. but what these other donkees are doing are simply littering all these threads with the same redundant crap over and over again. It strikes me as strange behavior. Even for a Knick fan

What's pleasant as well is that as a homer, I can post when the Knicks suck, and I can post when the Knicks are on a winning streak.

Somber donkees just fade away when things are going well.

There has to be some way to set up redundancy counters for the following threads:

1) Denver is better than we are and always will be no matter what the outcomes because of Melo
2) Melo makes no one better
3) Melo isn't better than _________
4) Melo is inefficient
5) We have no cap space, maneuverability, draft picks, management brainpower due to Melo (Dolan and Melo indirectly linked at the CSA umbilical)
6) Melo kills all good coaches
7) Melo kills any chance of yoot stars
8) __________ is better than the Knicks because they play ball the right (un-Melo) way
9) Melo invented iso ball and I will forever hate him for it
10) Melo is the greediest pro athelete in the solar system, and nothing will convince me otherwise.

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1/31/2014  12:59 PM
Somber donkees just fade away when things are going well.

I'm calling bull**** on that
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1/31/2014  1:06 PM
Bonn1997 wrote:
Somber donkees just fade away when things are going well.

I'm calling bull**** on that

Point taken.
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1/31/2014  1:15 PM
jrodmc wrote:
fishmike wrote:
jrodmc wrote:
fishmike wrote:
Marcala12 wrote:it's like the Melo haters feel obliged to go at it 200% when Melo is playing his best basketball.

Who cares if prime Garnett was slightly better than Melo? That being the case certainly isn't a knock on Melo.

yea... here's some perspective. Your a poster on sports forum who hates your teams best player and have spent the last couple of years dogging him to anyone that will listen all over the internet, and after in pouring word after word you might *just* have convinced someone on the internet that Melo might be a slight notch below a guy whos been MVP and is a first ballot HOF player.

Yea... good job DK-TFK... keep fighting the good fight

Hey, fish, leave tkf's little brother alone.

And have you noticed how Somberly quiet it gets in here when some douchebag cancer franchise record holding selfish smiling doesn't make anyone better Knick has a few nights shooting 50% from the field?

Melo wasnt NOT great here right after the trade. He struggled to fit in, and we saw more than a few moments Melo went out and things took off (Linsanity). He didnt gel with a few players, didnt gel with the coach who tried to put him in a few roles none of which worked. He followed up big games with horrible ones and he shot us out of games in that first Boston series as well.

As you remember I was quite displeased with him considering the price tag.

But

I watched, and watched and watched.

The Knicks got better, and last year they hit a win total not seen since 33 patrolled the paint, and did so built around an innefficient chucker who doesnt defend, is an average rebounder and alienates teammates (tongue and cheek.. yea).

Ive watched Melo game after game and he brings it. He plays his ass off. He hates losing.

Its not my job to convince fans that Melo is great. Thats HIS job, but for phucks sakes at some point you have to open your eyes. If your waiting for Melo to lead us to some deep playoff runs thats fair, but if you dont ack that this guy has been a top flight player for us your just not being honest. I get the knocks, and thats fine.. but what these other donkees are doing are simply littering all these threads with the same redundant crap over and over again. It strikes me as strange behavior. Even for a Knick fan

What's pleasant as well is that as a homer, I can post when the Knicks suck, and I can post when the Knicks are on a winning streak.

Somber donkees just fade away when things are going well.

There has to be some way to set up redundancy counters for the following threads:

1) Denver is better than we are and always will be no matter what the outcomes because of Melo
2) Melo makes no one better
3) Melo isn't better than _________
4) Melo is inefficient
5) We have no cap space, maneuverability, draft picks, management brainpower due to Melo (Dolan and Melo indirectly linked at the CSA umbilical)
6) Melo kills all good coaches
7) Melo kills any chance of yoot stars
8) __________ is better than the Knicks because they play ball the right (un-Melo) way
9) Melo invented iso ball and I will forever hate him for it
10) Melo is the greediest pro athelete in the solar system, and nothing will convince me otherwise.

I like:

1. Melo should have taken less to play here
2. Should have signed with us as a free agent
3. MeloBury
4. Mooby Loving Nutsucking homers*

*Im calling out the unbalanced Melo lover who bought "coming home" hook line and sinker and blame MDA and Woodson for not letting Melo be god.

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1/31/2014  1:53 PM
Hey, I don't need to remind you again of how many Marbles jersey's I own, do I?
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1/31/2014  2:52 PM
now that some of you have had your fun with venom and vitriol, lets come back to reality.

knicks wins against new jersey generals-level nba teams just don't turn my crank. if you infer that i don't watch or comment because melobury is doing well in these empty regular-season games that's on you. just consider that what he does lately is against non-playoff competition. exciting

when the knicks reach .500 i will start watching again in earnest. until then i will watch only those games against good legitimate playoff teams. how do you imagine melo will do against these teams? here is the record so far:

miami 1-0
indiana 0-2
okc 0-1
portland 0-1
clippers 0-2
spurs 1-1
houston 0-2

they are 2-10 this season against legitimate teams. but hooray for melo!

knicks win 38-43 games in 16-17. rose MUST shoot no more than 14 shots per game, defer to kp6 + melo, and have a usage rate of less than 25%
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1/31/2014  4:22 PM
dk7th wrote:now that some of you have had your fun with venom and vitriol, lets come back to reality.

knicks wins against new jersey generals-level nba teams just don't turn my crank. if you infer that i don't watch or comment because melobury is doing well in these empty regular-season games that's on you. just consider that what he does lately is against non-playoff competition. exciting

when the knicks reach .500 i will start watching again in earnest. until then i will watch only those games against good legitimate playoff teams. how do you imagine melo will do against these teams? here is the record so far:

miami 1-0
indiana 0-2
okc 0-1
portland 0-1
clippers 0-2
spurs 1-1
houston 0-2

they are 2-10 this season against legitimate teams. but hooray for melo!

good. Go away and come back with your venom and viagra and we will set you straight then as well. Maybe then Melo will be considering taking the league min so we can resign Jeremy Tyler good money. Cheers till then
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1/31/2014  6:11 PM
dk7th wrote:now that some of you have had your fun with venom and vitriol, lets come back to reality.

knicks wins against new jersey generals-level nba teams just don't turn my crank. if you infer that i don't watch or comment because melobury is doing well in these empty regular-season games that's on you. just consider that what he does lately is against non-playoff competition. exciting

when the knicks reach .500 i will start watching again in earnest. until then i will watch only those games against good legitimate playoff teams. how do you imagine melo will do against these teams? here is the record so far:

miami 1-0
indiana 0-2
okc 0-1
portland 0-1
clippers 0-2
spurs 1-1
houston 0-2

they are 2-10 this season against legitimate teams. but hooray for melo!

They should be 2-0 against Houston and 1-1 against indy. Horrific calls and JR's not knowing the score shot with a lot of time left in the final minute.
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1/31/2014  9:06 PM
fishmike wrote:
Uptown wrote:
fishmike wrote:
jrodmc wrote:
fishmike wrote:
Marcala12 wrote:it's like the Melo haters feel obliged to go at it 200% when Melo is playing his best basketball.

Who cares if prime Garnett was slightly better than Melo? That being the case certainly isn't a knock on Melo.

yea... here's some perspective. Your a poster on sports forum who hates your teams best player and have spent the last couple of years dogging him to anyone that will listen all over the internet, and after in pouring word after word you might *just* have convinced someone on the internet that Melo might be a slight notch below a guy whos been MVP and is a first ballot HOF player.

Yea... good job DK-TFK... keep fighting the good fight

Hey, fish, leave tkf's little brother alone.

And have you noticed how Somberly quiet it gets in here when some douchebag cancer franchise record holding selfish smiling doesn't make anyone better Knick has a few nights shooting 50% from the field?

Melo wasnt NOT great here right after the trade. He struggled to fit in, and we saw more than a few moments Melo went out and things took off (Linsanity). He didnt gel with a few players, didnt gel with the coach who tried to put him in a few roles none of which worked. He followed up big games with horrible ones and he shot us out of games in that first Boston series as well.

As you remember I was quite displeased with him considering the price tag.

But

I watched, and watched and watched.

The Knicks got better, and last year they hit a win total not seen since 33 patrolled the paint, and did so built around an innefficient chucker who doesnt defend, is an average rebounder and alienates teammates (tongue and cheek.. yea).

Ive watched Melo game after game and he brings it. He plays his ass off. He hates losing.

Its not my job to convince fans that Melo is great. Thats HIS job, but for phucks sakes at some point you have to open your eyes. If your waiting for Melo to lead us to some deep playoff runs thats fair, but if you dont ack that this guy has been a top flight player for us your just not being honest. I get the knocks, and thats fine.. but what these other donkees are doing are simply littering all these threads with the same redundant crap over and over again. It strikes me as strange behavior. Even for a Knick fan

This is one of the most honest posts I've seen on this site in some time....I certainly remember when you weren't very fond of Melo because I've gone back and forth with you several times.....The fact that you 'as you say' "opened your eyes" shows that you were not posting with an agenda. Too bad the same can't be said about some others....Strange behavior indeed.....

I try not be knee jerk... I try to be wait and see but during all those horrible Isiah, Larry Brown, etc, etc years I was dying to just see this team rebuilt. Walsh came in and wasnt perfect but he gutted the roster, drafted some decent talent and things were getting good. We had a young core with Amare (who was playing like a true star) and max cap space. Sky seemed like the limit. Then we overpaid for a guy who couldnt win a playoff game and took 50 shots a game.

But there is more to Melo than that, and JVG used to talk about how bigtime NBA player could impose their will on a game and Melo can do that. Ive seen enough of Melo head to head vs. the elite players of the NBA to see clearly he belongs among them. Yes his game has holes, but if your lucky enough to have a player as good as Melo your MO should be to build around those.

Im still not ra ra ra Melo is god, but the garbage I hear from TFK and DK is just that. Calling a guy "Meloser" when he's one of like 5 NBA players who have never had a single losing season, or "he should only be paid $10-12mm a year" type comments. Stupid and insulting to anyone who doesnt have a personal agenda against this guy.

At least Bonn (disagree as I may) can say why he doesnt like MElo's game (inefficient) but these other guys.. they are like 8 year olds. I keep waiting to hear "I know you are but what am I"

I love the Knicks. I casually followed the NBA as a youth but I fell in love with the Knicks of the 90s. The year they went to the finals I was 20 and was diagnnosed with Hodgkins lymphoma (cancer). I spent that year lying around a whole lot while I was getting destroyed by chemo and radiation. Im 6'3 and weigh about 195. That year I dropped to 137lbs. I looked like a concentration camp refugee. When your that sick you focus on one day at a time and whatever keeps you going. Know what kept me going more than anything? The Knicks. I watched every minute. I developed quiet an emotional attachment to them, and as brutal as that game 7 loss was that was a great ride.

So while I want a title run, I also understand there is a process, and Im damn glad to see the Knick simply playing good ball and being in it again. As you know Im hardly a koolaid drinker, but I can be won over and lost over... slowly. Melo has done it right way. He's played his arse off, yielded Knick wins and his play is noticed around the NBA. All star starter, scoring title, 3rd in MVP voting... sure, you can tear apart any one of those, but when you look at the big picture this is a pretty impressive player. I hope we can build something better than what we have.

Great post Fish....Here's to good Knick basketball and good health....

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1/31/2014  9:09 PM
dk7th wrote:now that some of you have had your fun with venom and vitriol, lets come back to reality.

knicks wins against new jersey generals-level nba teams just don't turn my crank. if you infer that i don't watch or comment because melobury is doing well in these empty regular-season games that's on you. just consider that what he does lately is against non-playoff competition. exciting

when the knicks reach .500 i will start watching again in earnest. until then i will watch only those games against good legitimate playoff teams. how do you imagine melo will do against these teams? here is the record so far:

miami 1-0
indiana 0-2
okc 0-1
portland 0-1
clippers 0-2
spurs 1-1
houston 0-2

they are 2-10 this season against legitimate teams. but hooray for melo!

Dude, you were trashing the Knicks last year when were 25+ games over .500 and were beating elite teams in the reg season....All you do is adjust your hate accordingly....

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1/31/2014  10:38 PM
Uptown wrote:
dk7th wrote:now that some of you have had your fun with venom and vitriol, lets come back to reality.

knicks wins against new jersey generals-level nba teams just don't turn my crank. if you infer that i don't watch or comment because melobury is doing well in these empty regular-season games that's on you. just consider that what he does lately is against non-playoff competition. exciting

when the knicks reach .500 i will start watching again in earnest. until then i will watch only those games against good legitimate playoff teams. how do you imagine melo will do against these teams? here is the record so far:

miami 1-0
indiana 0-2
okc 0-1
portland 0-1
clippers 0-2
spurs 1-1
houston 0-2

they are 2-10 this season against legitimate teams. but hooray for melo!

Dude, you were trashing the Knicks last year when were 25+ games over .500 and were beating elite teams in the reg season....All you do is adjust your hate accordingly....

the operative phrase in your post is "regular season" since it's all about the playoffs.... ergo there is no need to "adjust" since the end result will be the same: best case scenario is another second round annihilation. see how that works? besides, i have said since before the season that implosion was a distinct probability, with 37 wins the end result. do you realize that if they play .500 ball from here on out they will reach that lofty goal of 37 wins? and that in order to reach 43 wins and a presumed 3rd seed that they will have to go 24-12 which is .660 ball?

even so it's all about playoff success. first round appearances mean absolutely nothing, zero, nada, zilch. how is a first round appearance any sort of accomplishment? or edifying? or a second round annihilation? knicks fans standards are too low.

a competitive second round was a melo/woodson knick squad incarnation's ceiling, and they didn't even get to that. this season will end worse. how does that make you feel? bitter maybe? or does eternal hope and the fallback position of being entertained sweeten things?

knicks win 38-43 games in 16-17. rose MUST shoot no more than 14 shots per game, defer to kp6 + melo, and have a usage rate of less than 25%
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1/31/2014  11:04 PM
dk7th wrote:
Uptown wrote:
dk7th wrote:now that some of you have had your fun with venom and vitriol, lets come back to reality.

knicks wins against new jersey generals-level nba teams just don't turn my crank. if you infer that i don't watch or comment because melobury is doing well in these empty regular-season games that's on you. just consider that what he does lately is against non-playoff competition. exciting

when the knicks reach .500 i will start watching again in earnest. until then i will watch only those games against good legitimate playoff teams. how do you imagine melo will do against these teams? here is the record so far:

miami 1-0
indiana 0-2
okc 0-1
portland 0-1
clippers 0-2
spurs 1-1
houston 0-2

they are 2-10 this season against legitimate teams. but hooray for melo!

Dude, you were trashing the Knicks last year when were 25+ games over .500 and were beating elite teams in the reg season....All you do is adjust your hate accordingly....

the operative phrase in your post is "regular season" since it's all about the playoffs.... ergo there is no need to "adjust" since the end result will be the same: best case scenario is another second round annihilation. see how that works? besides, i have said since before the season that implosion was a distinct probability, with 37 wins the end result. do you realize that if they play .500 ball from here on out they will reach that lofty goal of 37 wins? and that in order to reach 43 wins and a presumed 3rd seed that they will have to go 24-12 which is .660 ball?

even so it's all about playoff success. first round appearances mean absolutely nothing, zero, nada, zilch. how is a first round appearance any sort of accomplishment? or edifying? or a second round annihilation? knicks fans standards are too low.

a competitive second round was a melo/woodson knick squad incarnation's ceiling, and they didn't even get to that. this season will end worse. how does that make you feel? bitter maybe? or does eternal hope and the fallback position of being entertained sweeten things?

Just wondering why you are always asking fans how they feel. Obviously fans are excited that there has been some good play and hope that things turn around and maybe there will be some magic this spring. You missed out on a great ride last year focusing in on negativity. Fans root for their team. They are up when they are winning and down when they aren't. It really is pretty basic. Most fans don't have an agenda against the team or players on the team they root for.
I'm tired,I'm tired, I'm so tired right now......Kristaps Porzingis 1/3/18
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1/31/2014  11:18 PM
CrushAlot wrote:
dk7th wrote:
Uptown wrote:
dk7th wrote:now that some of you have had your fun with venom and vitriol, lets come back to reality.

knicks wins against new jersey generals-level nba teams just don't turn my crank. if you infer that i don't watch or comment because melobury is doing well in these empty regular-season games that's on you. just consider that what he does lately is against non-playoff competition. exciting

when the knicks reach .500 i will start watching again in earnest. until then i will watch only those games against good legitimate playoff teams. how do you imagine melo will do against these teams? here is the record so far:

miami 1-0
indiana 0-2
okc 0-1
portland 0-1
clippers 0-2
spurs 1-1
houston 0-2

they are 2-10 this season against legitimate teams. but hooray for melo!

Dude, you were trashing the Knicks last year when were 25+ games over .500 and were beating elite teams in the reg season....All you do is adjust your hate accordingly....

the operative phrase in your post is "regular season" since it's all about the playoffs.... ergo there is no need to "adjust" since the end result will be the same: best case scenario is another second round annihilation. see how that works? besides, i have said since before the season that implosion was a distinct probability, with 37 wins the end result. do you realize that if they play .500 ball from here on out they will reach that lofty goal of 37 wins? and that in order to reach 43 wins and a presumed 3rd seed that they will have to go 24-12 which is .660 ball?

even so it's all about playoff success. first round appearances mean absolutely nothing, zero, nada, zilch. how is a first round appearance any sort of accomplishment? or edifying? or a second round annihilation? knicks fans standards are too low.

a competitive second round was a melo/woodson knick squad incarnation's ceiling, and they didn't even get to that. this season will end worse. how does that make you feel? bitter maybe? or does eternal hope and the fallback position of being entertained sweeten things?

Just wondering why you are always asking fans how they feel. Obviously fans are excited that there has been some good play and hope that things turn around and maybe there will be some magic this spring. You missed out on a great ride last year focusing in on negativity. Fans root for their team. They are up when they are winning and down when they aren't. It really is pretty basic. Most fans don't have an agenda against the team or players on the team they root for.

nothing is more basic than winning and losing. "ups and downs"? what does that mean unless you just live for the moment? i want my team to build a champion. what do you want?

knicks win 38-43 games in 16-17. rose MUST shoot no more than 14 shots per game, defer to kp6 + melo, and have a usage rate of less than 25%
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1/31/2014  11:34 PM
dk7th wrote:
CrushAlot wrote:
dk7th wrote:
Uptown wrote:
dk7th wrote:now that some of you have had your fun with venom and vitriol, lets come back to reality.

knicks wins against new jersey generals-level nba teams just don't turn my crank. if you infer that i don't watch or comment because melobury is doing well in these empty regular-season games that's on you. just consider that what he does lately is against non-playoff competition. exciting

when the knicks reach .500 i will start watching again in earnest. until then i will watch only those games against good legitimate playoff teams. how do you imagine melo will do against these teams? here is the record so far:

miami 1-0
indiana 0-2
okc 0-1
portland 0-1
clippers 0-2
spurs 1-1
houston 0-2

they are 2-10 this season against legitimate teams. but hooray for melo!

Dude, you were trashing the Knicks last year when were 25+ games over .500 and were beating elite teams in the reg season....All you do is adjust your hate accordingly....

the operative phrase in your post is "regular season" since it's all about the playoffs.... ergo there is no need to "adjust" since the end result will be the same: best case scenario is another second round annihilation. see how that works? besides, i have said since before the season that implosion was a distinct probability, with 37 wins the end result. do you realize that if they play .500 ball from here on out they will reach that lofty goal of 37 wins? and that in order to reach 43 wins and a presumed 3rd seed that they will have to go 24-12 which is .660 ball?

even so it's all about playoff success. first round appearances mean absolutely nothing, zero, nada, zilch. how is a first round appearance any sort of accomplishment? or edifying? or a second round annihilation? knicks fans standards are too low.

a competitive second round was a melo/woodson knick squad incarnation's ceiling, and they didn't even get to that. this season will end worse. how does that make you feel? bitter maybe? or does eternal hope and the fallback position of being entertained sweeten things?

Just wondering why you are always asking fans how they feel. Obviously fans are excited that there has been some good play and hope that things turn around and maybe there will be some magic this spring. You missed out on a great ride last year focusing in on negativity. Fans root for their team. They are up when they are winning and down when they aren't. It really is pretty basic. Most fans don't have an agenda against the team or players on the team they root for.

nothing is more basic than winning and losing. "ups and downs"? what does that mean unless you just live for the moment? i want my team to build a champion. what do you want?

Absolutely want a championship. But I also watched this team come nowhere close to competing for even a playoff spot for a long time. I watch every game that I can and I enjoy every win and ache with every loss. I also see the team as a work in progress and love Grunwald's vision and creative approach to bring in quality youth despite not having draft picks. The team brings me a lot of enjoyment. Love talking ball and especially knicks. When the team has its best season in 15-20 years I enjoy it. When the team has a win streak I enjoy it. The only time I have ever thought the team was just going all wrong was when Walsh hired D'Antoni and tried really hard to make theat hire not look like a mistake. However, D'Antoni did nothing but lose here so it wasn't like he could change my mind. I didn't like the Melo trade but the guy has been great as a knick and won me over. Also, the irrational hate directed at the guy has made me a defender.
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2/1/2014  12:42 AM
CrushAlot wrote:
dk7th wrote:
CrushAlot wrote:
dk7th wrote:
Uptown wrote:
dk7th wrote:now that some of you have had your fun with venom and vitriol, lets come back to reality.

knicks wins against new jersey generals-level nba teams just don't turn my crank. if you infer that i don't watch or comment because melobury is doing well in these empty regular-season games that's on you. just consider that what he does lately is against non-playoff competition. exciting

when the knicks reach .500 i will start watching again in earnest. until then i will watch only those games against good legitimate playoff teams. how do you imagine melo will do against these teams? here is the record so far:

miami 1-0
indiana 0-2
okc 0-1
portland 0-1
clippers 0-2
spurs 1-1
houston 0-2

they are 2-10 this season against legitimate teams. but hooray for melo!

Dude, you were trashing the Knicks last year when were 25+ games over .500 and were beating elite teams in the reg season....All you do is adjust your hate accordingly....

the operative phrase in your post is "regular season" since it's all about the playoffs.... ergo there is no need to "adjust" since the end result will be the same: best case scenario is another second round annihilation. see how that works? besides, i have said since before the season that implosion was a distinct probability, with 37 wins the end result. do you realize that if they play .500 ball from here on out they will reach that lofty goal of 37 wins? and that in order to reach 43 wins and a presumed 3rd seed that they will have to go 24-12 which is .660 ball?

even so it's all about playoff success. first round appearances mean absolutely nothing, zero, nada, zilch. how is a first round appearance any sort of accomplishment? or edifying? or a second round annihilation? knicks fans standards are too low.

a competitive second round was a melo/woodson knick squad incarnation's ceiling, and they didn't even get to that. this season will end worse. how does that make you feel? bitter maybe? or does eternal hope and the fallback position of being entertained sweeten things?

Just wondering why you are always asking fans how they feel. Obviously fans are excited that there has been some good play and hope that things turn around and maybe there will be some magic this spring. You missed out on a great ride last year focusing in on negativity. Fans root for their team. They are up when they are winning and down when they aren't. It really is pretty basic. Most fans don't have an agenda against the team or players on the team they root for.

nothing is more basic than winning and losing. "ups and downs"? what does that mean unless you just live for the moment? i want my team to build a champion. what do you want?

Absolutely want a championship. But I also watched this team come nowhere close to competing for even a playoff spot for a long time. I watch every game that I can and I enjoy every win and ache with every loss. I also see the team as a work in progress and love Grunwald's vision and creative approach to bring in quality youth despite not having draft picks. The team brings me a lot of enjoyment. Love talking ball and especially knicks. When the team has its best season in 15-20 years I enjoy it. When the team has a win streak I enjoy it. The only time I have ever thought the team was just going all wrong was when Walsh hired D'Antoni and tried really hard to make theat hire not look like a mistake. However, D'Antoni did nothing but lose here so it wasn't like he could change my mind. I didn't like the Melo trade but the guy has been great as a knick and won me over. Also, the irrational hate directed at the guy has made me a defender.

You know he's gone, right?
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2/1/2014  2:17 AM
Bonn1997 wrote:
CrushAlot wrote:
dk7th wrote:
CrushAlot wrote:
dk7th wrote:
Uptown wrote:
dk7th wrote:now that some of you have had your fun with venom and vitriol, lets come back to reality.

knicks wins against new jersey generals-level nba teams just don't turn my crank. if you infer that i don't watch or comment because melobury is doing well in these empty regular-season games that's on you. just consider that what he does lately is against non-playoff competition. exciting

when the knicks reach .500 i will start watching again in earnest. until then i will watch only those games against good legitimate playoff teams. how do you imagine melo will do against these teams? here is the record so far:

miami 1-0
indiana 0-2
okc 0-1
portland 0-1
clippers 0-2
spurs 1-1
houston 0-2

they are 2-10 this season against legitimate teams. but hooray for melo!

Dude, you were trashing the Knicks last year when were 25+ games over .500 and were beating elite teams in the reg season....All you do is adjust your hate accordingly....

the operative phrase in your post is "regular season" since it's all about the playoffs.... ergo there is no need to "adjust" since the end result will be the same: best case scenario is another second round annihilation. see how that works? besides, i have said since before the season that implosion was a distinct probability, with 37 wins the end result. do you realize that if they play .500 ball from here on out they will reach that lofty goal of 37 wins? and that in order to reach 43 wins and a presumed 3rd seed that they will have to go 24-12 which is .660 ball?

even so it's all about playoff success. first round appearances mean absolutely nothing, zero, nada, zilch. how is a first round appearance any sort of accomplishment? or edifying? or a second round annihilation? knicks fans standards are too low.

a competitive second round was a melo/woodson knick squad incarnation's ceiling, and they didn't even get to that. this season will end worse. how does that make you feel? bitter maybe? or does eternal hope and the fallback position of being entertained sweeten things?

Just wondering why you are always asking fans how they feel. Obviously fans are excited that there has been some good play and hope that things turn around and maybe there will be some magic this spring. You missed out on a great ride last year focusing in on negativity. Fans root for their team. They are up when they are winning and down when they aren't. It really is pretty basic. Most fans don't have an agenda against the team or players on the team they root for.

nothing is more basic than winning and losing. "ups and downs"? what does that mean unless you just live for the moment? i want my team to build a champion. what do you want?

Absolutely want a championship. But I also watched this team come nowhere close to competing for even a playoff spot for a long time. I watch every game that I can and I enjoy every win and ache with every loss. I also see the team as a work in progress and love Grunwald's vision and creative approach to bring in quality youth despite not having draft picks. The team brings me a lot of enjoyment. Love talking ball and especially knicks. When the team has its best season in 15-20 years I enjoy it. When the team has a win streak I enjoy it. The only time I have ever thought the team was just going all wrong was when Walsh hired D'Antoni and tried really hard to make theat hire not look like a mistake. However, D'Antoni did nothing but lose here so it wasn't like he could change my mind. I didn't like the Melo trade but the guy has been great as a knick and won me over. Also, the irrational hate directed at the guy has made me a defender.

You know he's gone, right?

Papabear Says

Can't wait for Melo to sign his new contract with New York to shut the dis-believers up. Melo will retire a Knick.

Papabear
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2/1/2014  7:37 AM
Disbelief about what? I think it's pretty likely that Dolan will make Melo the highest paid basketball player in the world starting next year. I don't think anyone has ruled out that possibility.
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2/1/2014  8:29 AM
dk7th wrote:
CrushAlot wrote:
dk7th wrote:
Uptown wrote:
dk7th wrote:now that some of you have had your fun with venom and vitriol, lets come back to reality.

knicks wins against new jersey generals-level nba teams just don't turn my crank. if you infer that i don't watch or comment because melobury is doing well in these empty regular-season games that's on you. just consider that what he does lately is against non-playoff competition. exciting

when the knicks reach .500 i will start watching again in earnest. until then i will watch only those games against good legitimate playoff teams. how do you imagine melo will do against these teams? here is the record so far:

miami 1-0
indiana 0-2
okc 0-1
portland 0-1
clippers 0-2
spurs 1-1
houston 0-2

they are 2-10 this season against legitimate teams. but hooray for melo!

Dude, you were trashing the Knicks last year when were 25+ games over .500 and were beating elite teams in the reg season....All you do is adjust your hate accordingly....

the operative phrase in your post is "regular season" since it's all about the playoffs.... ergo there is no need to "adjust" since the end result will be the same: best case scenario is another second round annihilation. see how that works? besides, i have said since before the season that implosion was a distinct probability, with 37 wins the end result. do you realize that if they play .500 ball from here on out they will reach that lofty goal of 37 wins? and that in order to reach 43 wins and a presumed 3rd seed that they will have to go 24-12 which is .660 ball?

even so it's all about playoff success. first round appearances mean absolutely nothing, zero, nada, zilch. how is a first round appearance any sort of accomplishment? or edifying? or a second round annihilation? knicks fans standards are too low.

a competitive second round was a melo/woodson knick squad incarnation's ceiling, and they didn't even get to that. this season will end worse. how does that make you feel? bitter maybe? or does eternal hope and the fallback position of being entertained sweeten things?

Just wondering why you are always asking fans how they feel. Obviously fans are excited that there has been some good play and hope that things turn around and maybe there will be some magic this spring. You missed out on a great ride last year focusing in on negativity. Fans root for their team. They are up when they are winning and down when they aren't. It really is pretty basic. Most fans don't have an agenda against the team or players on the team they root for.

nothing is more basic than winning and losing. "ups and downs"? what does that mean unless you just live for the moment? i want my team to build a champion. what do you want?

So lets see what turns the crank:
1) Not living for the moment, but pointing out any and all past failures, current angst, and downgrading any current wins and past successes.
2) A Chip. Now.
3) Boo Melo Boo!
4) 1st round wins 2nd round playoffs soon to be followed by: 2nd round wins ECF ECF wins Finals Chip or nothing

Lather, rinse, repeat.

martin, is there any possibility of installing a "new, fresh and inventive Melo hate post" function?

Melo Is As Good As It Gets

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