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smackeddog
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12/5/2013  12:43 PM
tkf wrote:
Deandre Jordan is not the problem with that defense believe me. I think they need to be better defensively at the wings...

My only problem with blake is that as big and strong as he is, can get pushed around, I watched horford move him with ease... ease!! but Al is no slouch either..

I take into account that blake and Jordan are still Green, they are young guys still getting better, stronger, and they are already monsters...

are they flawless? no, but the knicks have nothing the clippers will want to acquire either guy, and both guys especially Blake would make the knicks better, because not only is Blake better than carmelo, but he is very good in the areas we are weak....

I don't watch enough Clippers games to form an opinion, I just thought that article was interesting because of the stats- I'm curious as to why that's the case.

A lot of western players seem to hate Griffin and have it out for him- I think his flopping has gotten under their skin. Personally I'd rather have the cap space than Griffin AND DeAndre Jordan. I think those two need separating. I'd accept a trade for just Griffin, but I'd feel deflated about it (not because I love melo, but because I'm just not a fan of Griffin.)
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12/5/2013  12:52 PM
TeamBall wrote:
dk7th wrote:how many 3-13 teams make it to the finals.

conference finals?
conference semifinals?
first round of playoffs?

the team has imploded. it has gotten so bad that there's a rumor that barkley will be the guest color man on tonight's national broadcast, making laughing stock status official.

then there's the irrelevance quotient to follow.

thanks dolan, thanks <meh>lo

tick tock


Huh? I remember watching the TNT games last week and they said Charles was doing the game tonight. Whats this about a rumor?

so he is? wow what timing.

knicks win 38-43 games in 16-17. rose MUST shoot no more than 14 shots per game, defer to kp6 + melo, and have a usage rate of less than 25%
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12/5/2013  1:17 PM
tkf wrote:
Knixkik wrote:
smackeddog wrote:
NumberTwoPencil wrote:"Melo for Asik, Lin, Chandler Parsons, and a #1 pick."

Ha, interestingly, Lin, Parsons and Asik are all out until Dec 15th- hmm...

Seriously though, Melo is not a Morey kind of guy- he likes efficency etc, plus Melo and Harden could never co-exist. I think if we move him the Clips are the most likely trade partner, simply because he's more likely to re-sign there and he's friends with CP3, while CP3 and Griffin are said to be feuding. Still, don't see it happening- Dolan will refuse to believe Melo will walk, offer a max contract and then refuse to trade him out of a loyalty/spite principal.

I agree. I really believe Melo either stays or we deal him to LA in a package for Blake.

steve Blake? If you believe the clippers would deal blake Griffin for carmelo, I have a bridge that stretches from the US to Europe I want to sell you...

Clearly you don't realize the power Chris Paul and Doc Rivers hold in the organization. Also, i didn't say straight up, i said a package involving both players as the centerpiece.
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12/5/2013  1:20 PM
smackeddog wrote:
tkf wrote:
Deandre Jordan is not the problem with that defense believe me. I think they need to be better defensively at the wings...

My only problem with blake is that as big and strong as he is, can get pushed around, I watched horford move him with ease... ease!! but Al is no slouch either..

I take into account that blake and Jordan are still Green, they are young guys still getting better, stronger, and they are already monsters...

are they flawless? no, but the knicks have nothing the clippers will want to acquire either guy, and both guys especially Blake would make the knicks better, because not only is Blake better than carmelo, but he is very good in the areas we are weak....

I don't watch enough Clippers games to form an opinion, I just thought that article was interesting because of the stats- I'm curious as to why that's the case.

A lot of western players seem to hate Griffin and have it out for him- I think his flopping has gotten under their skin. Personally I'd rather have the cap space than Griffin AND DeAndre Jordan. I think those two need separating. I'd accept a trade for just Griffin, but I'd feel deflated about it (not because I love melo, but because I'm just not a fan of Griffin.)

A bird in hand is worth two in the bush. I don't like Jordan or Griffin (albeit to a much lesser extent) but they are young, productive and have room for growth. At the very least, they'd help keep us entertained until we figure out a long term plan. I agree that both Jordan and Griffin need to be broken up sooner rather than later. If I got both back in a trade, I'd immediately flip Jordan for Dion Waiters and filler. After all, with Melo gone we'd need another perimeter scorer.
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12/5/2013  1:23 PM
Knixkik wrote:
tkf wrote:
Knixkik wrote:
smackeddog wrote:
NumberTwoPencil wrote:"Melo for Asik, Lin, Chandler Parsons, and a #1 pick."

Ha, interestingly, Lin, Parsons and Asik are all out until Dec 15th- hmm...

Seriously though, Melo is not a Morey kind of guy- he likes efficency etc, plus Melo and Harden could never co-exist. I think if we move him the Clips are the most likely trade partner, simply because he's more likely to re-sign there and he's friends with CP3, while CP3 and Griffin are said to be feuding. Still, don't see it happening- Dolan will refuse to believe Melo will walk, offer a max contract and then refuse to trade him out of a loyalty/spite principal.

I agree. I really believe Melo either stays or we deal him to LA in a package for Blake.

steve Blake? If you believe the clippers would deal blake Griffin for carmelo, I have a bridge that stretches from the US to Europe I want to sell you...

Clearly you don't realize the power Chris Paul and Doc Rivers hold in the organization. Also, i didn't say straight up, i said a package involving both players as the centerpiece.


Dude give it up. You're never going to change his opinion; he's got some psychotic agenda with Melo. The best you could do is block his posts like how and several other posters have.
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12/5/2013  1:25 PM
Stephen A's latest claim today is that Grunwald wanted to trade for Lamarcus Aldrige, but had Bargs forced on him because he's CAA. That one is more believable than Melo saying he's not staying.
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12/5/2013  1:38 PM
NardDogNation wrote:
Knixkik wrote:
tkf wrote:
Knixkik wrote:
smackeddog wrote:
NumberTwoPencil wrote:"Melo for Asik, Lin, Chandler Parsons, and a #1 pick."

Ha, interestingly, Lin, Parsons and Asik are all out until Dec 15th- hmm...

Seriously though, Melo is not a Morey kind of guy- he likes efficency etc, plus Melo and Harden could never co-exist. I think if we move him the Clips are the most likely trade partner, simply because he's more likely to re-sign there and he's friends with CP3, while CP3 and Griffin are said to be feuding. Still, don't see it happening- Dolan will refuse to believe Melo will walk, offer a max contract and then refuse to trade him out of a loyalty/spite principal.

I agree. I really believe Melo either stays or we deal him to LA in a package for Blake.

steve Blake? If you believe the clippers would deal blake Griffin for carmelo, I have a bridge that stretches from the US to Europe I want to sell you...

Clearly you don't realize the power Chris Paul and Doc Rivers hold in the organization. Also, i didn't say straight up, i said a package involving both players as the centerpiece.


Dude give it up. You're never going to change his opinion; he's got some psychotic agenda with Melo. The best you could do is block his posts like how and several other posters have.

I didn't know you can block people lol.
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12/5/2013  1:40 PM
MSG3 wrote:Stephen A's latest claim today is that Grunwald wanted to trade for Lamarcus Aldrige, but had Bargs forced on him because he's CAA. That one is more believable than Melo saying he's not staying.

It's not like we had the pieces to get Aldridge though
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12/5/2013  1:47 PM
I don't get why people feel the need to block people. Can't you just ignore them or is it hard because they strike a nerve?

By the way blocking people doesn't help cos their conversations with others still show up
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12/5/2013  1:54 PM
MSG3 wrote:Stephen A's latest claim today is that Grunwald wanted to trade for Lamarcus Aldrige, but had Bargs forced on him because he's CAA. That one is more believable than Melo saying he's not staying.

I sure hope that isn't true otherwise we have a major problem on our hands
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12/5/2013  1:57 PM
TeamBall wrote:
MSG3 wrote:Stephen A's latest claim today is that Grunwald wanted to trade for Lamarcus Aldrige, but had Bargs forced on him because he's CAA. That one is more believable than Melo saying he's not staying.

It's not like we had the pieces to get Aldridge though

They probably wanted Felton back

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12/5/2013  1:59 PM
MSG3 wrote:Stephen A's latest claim today is that Grunwald wanted to trade for Lamarcus Aldrige, but had Bargs forced on him because he's CAA. That one is more believable than Melo saying he's not staying.

So when do we actually get bennefit to sucking up to CAA? They are like the Taliban!

Portland is 16-3.

Wow, every team has a better record than us. We are at the bottom with Milwaukee.

CAA can't dictate to Melo where to play.
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12/5/2013  2:10 PM
NardDogNation wrote:
Knixkik wrote:
tkf wrote:
Knixkik wrote:
smackeddog wrote:
NumberTwoPencil wrote:"Melo for Asik, Lin, Chandler Parsons, and a #1 pick."

Ha, interestingly, Lin, Parsons and Asik are all out until Dec 15th- hmm...

Seriously though, Melo is not a Morey kind of guy- he likes efficency etc, plus Melo and Harden could never co-exist. I think if we move him the Clips are the most likely trade partner, simply because he's more likely to re-sign there and he's friends with CP3, while CP3 and Griffin are said to be feuding. Still, don't see it happening- Dolan will refuse to believe Melo will walk, offer a max contract and then refuse to trade him out of a loyalty/spite principal.

I agree. I really believe Melo either stays or we deal him to LA in a package for Blake.

steve Blake? If you believe the clippers would deal blake Griffin for carmelo, I have a bridge that stretches from the US to Europe I want to sell you...

Clearly you don't realize the power Chris Paul and Doc Rivers hold in the organization. Also, i didn't say straight up, i said a package involving both players as the centerpiece.


Dude give it up. You're never going to change his opinion; he's got some psychotic agenda with Melo. The best you could do is block his posts like how and several other posters have.

There's a way to look that up?! I've wondered who blocks who
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12/5/2013  2:39 PM
Nalod wrote:
MSG3 wrote:Stephen A's latest claim today is that Grunwald wanted to trade for Lamarcus Aldrige, but had Bargs forced on him because he's CAA. That one is more believable than Melo saying he's not staying.

So when do we actually get bennefit to sucking up to CAA? They are like the Taliban!

Portland is 16-3.

Wow, every team has a better record than us. We are at the bottom with Milwaukee.

CAA can't dictate to Melo where to play.

This CAA thing is ridiculous- they should be representing their individual members, who each will have conflicting aims and interests. For Dolan to think sucking up to them will result in anything big is ridiculous.
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12/5/2013  2:41 PM
Knixkik wrote:
NardDogNation wrote:
Knixkik wrote:
tkf wrote:
Knixkik wrote:
smackeddog wrote:
NumberTwoPencil wrote:"Melo for Asik, Lin, Chandler Parsons, and a #1 pick."

Ha, interestingly, Lin, Parsons and Asik are all out until Dec 15th- hmm...

Seriously though, Melo is not a Morey kind of guy- he likes efficency etc, plus Melo and Harden could never co-exist. I think if we move him the Clips are the most likely trade partner, simply because he's more likely to re-sign there and he's friends with CP3, while CP3 and Griffin are said to be feuding. Still, don't see it happening- Dolan will refuse to believe Melo will walk, offer a max contract and then refuse to trade him out of a loyalty/spite principal.

I agree. I really believe Melo either stays or we deal him to LA in a package for Blake.

steve Blake? If you believe the clippers would deal blake Griffin for carmelo, I have a bridge that stretches from the US to Europe I want to sell you...

Clearly you don't realize the power Chris Paul and Doc Rivers hold in the organization. Also, i didn't say straight up, i said a package involving both players as the centerpiece.


Dude give it up. You're never going to change his opinion; he's got some psychotic agenda with Melo. The best you could do is block his posts like how and several other posters have.

I didn't know you can block people lol.

Neither did I until Papabear mentioned he and others had been doing it.
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12/5/2013  2:49 PM    LAST EDITED: 12/5/2013  2:51 PM
gunsnewing wrote:I don't get why people feel the need to block people. Can't you just ignore them or is it hard because they strike a nerve?

By the way blocking people doesn't help cos their conversations with others still show up

I have a low tolerance for stupid **** and a bad habit of trying to prove myself ( particularly if it can be perceived as a competition, as a former athlete). The two working in combination with certain people on certain topics is a bad combination for me, so blocking those "certain people" is a personal ideal, particularly if I know exactly what they are going to say I.e. "Melo is (fill in the worst possible thing you can think of)", rinse and repeat. It's nothing personnel on my part though.
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12/5/2013  2:54 PM
Bonn1997 wrote:
NardDogNation wrote:
Knixkik wrote:
tkf wrote:
Knixkik wrote:
smackeddog wrote:
NumberTwoPencil wrote:"Melo for Asik, Lin, Chandler Parsons, and a #1 pick."

Ha, interestingly, Lin, Parsons and Asik are all out until Dec 15th- hmm...

Seriously though, Melo is not a Morey kind of guy- he likes efficency etc, plus Melo and Harden could never co-exist. I think if we move him the Clips are the most likely trade partner, simply because he's more likely to re-sign there and he's friends with CP3, while CP3 and Griffin are said to be feuding. Still, don't see it happening- Dolan will refuse to believe Melo will walk, offer a max contract and then refuse to trade him out of a loyalty/spite principal.

I agree. I really believe Melo either stays or we deal him to LA in a package for Blake.

steve Blake? If you believe the clippers would deal blake Griffin for carmelo, I have a bridge that stretches from the US to Europe I want to sell you...

Clearly you don't realize the power Chris Paul and Doc Rivers hold in the organization. Also, i didn't say straight up, i said a package involving both players as the centerpiece.


Dude give it up. You're never going to change his opinion; he's got some psychotic agenda with Melo. The best you could do is block his posts like how and several other posters have.

There's a way to look that up?! I've wondered who blocks who

Could we know who blocks who? I didn't know about that.
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12/5/2013  2:55 PM
NardDogNation wrote:
gunsnewing wrote:I don't get why people feel the need to block people. Can't you just ignore them or is it hard because they strike a nerve?

By the way blocking people doesn't help cos their conversations with others still show up

I have a low tolerance for stupid **** and a bad habit of trying to prove myself ( particularly if it can be perceived as a competition, as a former athlete). The two working in combination with certain people on certain topics is a bad combination for me, so blocking those "certain people" is a personal ideal, particularly if I know exactly what they are going to say I.e. "Melo is (fill in the worst possible thing you can think of)", rinse and repeat. It's nothing personnel on my part though.

I am with you 100%. I have the same problems, they definitely stem from the competitive nature.
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12/5/2013  2:58 PM
dk7th wrote:
TeamBall wrote:
dk7th wrote:how many 3-13 teams make it to the finals.

conference finals?
conference semifinals?
first round of playoffs?

the team has imploded. it has gotten so bad that there's a rumor that barkley will be the guest color man on tonight's national broadcast, making laughing stock status official.

then there's the irrelevance quotient to follow.

thanks dolan, thanks <meh>lo

tick tock


Huh? I remember watching the TNT games last week and they said Charles was doing the game tonight. Whats this about a rumor?

so he is? wow what timing.


Yeah last I heard he is. The only good thing is that the Nets suck too and it'd be hard for Barkley to criticize the Knicks so much when the team he defends is nearly just as bad.
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12/5/2013  3:01 PM
TeamBall wrote:
dk7th wrote:
TeamBall wrote:
dk7th wrote:how many 3-13 teams make it to the finals.

conference finals?
conference semifinals?
first round of playoffs?

the team has imploded. it has gotten so bad that there's a rumor that barkley will be the guest color man on tonight's national broadcast, making laughing stock status official.

then there's the irrelevance quotient to follow.

thanks dolan, thanks <meh>lo

tick tock


Huh? I remember watching the TNT games last week and they said Charles was doing the game tonight. Whats this about a rumor?

so he is? wow what timing.


Yeah last I heard he is. The only good thing is that the Nets suck too and it'd be hard for Barkley to criticize the Knicks so much when the team he defends is nearly just as bad.

the ratings for this broadcast will be sky high and for all the wrong reasons.

knicks win 38-43 games in 16-17. rose MUST shoot no more than 14 shots per game, defer to kp6 + melo, and have a usage rate of less than 25%
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