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newyorknewyork
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8/28/2013  6:46 PM
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newyorknewyork wrote:African Americans spend the most money creating the most tax dollars. Yet the tax dollars don't seem to improve our communities, schooling system, or stop the police who we are the majority ethnic group paying there salaries from harassing us.

I saw a lot of African American police officers harassing African Americans... or may be this was some other black officers (not African Americans)...
Seriously I am getting tired from all this reports and statistics of what each race in US is up to.
Why not just treat us all as Americans... isn't it what this county is about?
Criminals, crooks, lazy booms are just what they are regardless of the color of their skin.
Race is not an excuse and not a ticket to the promised land.
I would want the race to be illegal to be used in any kind of official documents and laws.
We are The People; all having the same rights and the same responsibilities.
All the rest is racism.

I don't remember mentioning police harassing criminals,crooks or lazy bums in my post. Clearly I'm not talking about police officers doing there jobs when its necessary. I also don't remember segregating police offers by race when I said police either. I'm also sure there are black politicians in the same communities who's communities and schools aren't being improved even with the high amount of spending and tax dollars.

People want to constantly talk about and throw around black on black crime and the black crime rate constantly, yet how many people are talking about all those improvements listed Neilsens. Shoot many people felt Zimmerman was justified for following Martin because the African American crime rate is so high. Maybe Martin was just trying to shop and got lost ;).

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8/28/2013  8:09 PM
newyorknewyork wrote:African Americans spend the most money creating the most tax dollars. Yet the tax dollars don't seem to improve our communities, schooling system, or stop the police who we are the majority ethnic group paying there salaries from harassing us.

See to me this is racist.(Why are you signaling out just one race?) As Americans we all spend money and pay taxes. We all go to school and get jobs--whatever that may be. EVERYONE has an opportunity to take a book and read it. Everyone has the ability to work hard and save. We as a people not an individual race have been given the opportunity to succeed in life. This is true this is honest and everything else is excuse. In 2013 you can be whatever you want and no one can stop you if you have the drive.

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8/28/2013  8:39 PM
Conservatives Think Racism Is Dead, They'e Wrong

Joathan Chait, NY Magazine

Fifty years after the March on Washington, no major faction in American life disagrees with Martin Luther King Jr. or the evil of state-sponsored racial apartheid. The terms of the racial debate have shifted massively in liberals’ favor. The conservative stance on racial questions in 2013 is vastly more benign that it was in 1963. It is not, however, completely benign.

There are many studies quantifying the fact that Americans still judge other people in part by the color of their skin. Conscious racial discrimination may be legally prohibited, and informal expressions of racism essentially banned from polite society, but unconscious racial stereotypes live on. A pile of studies and experiments show that black job applicants receive lower consideration than equally qualified white ones. This remains one of those findings that conservative discourse continues not to acknowledge.

It is also true, and not unrelated to the above, that conservative politics still leans heavily on the stoking of white racial paranoia. Rush Limbaugh, Matt Drudge, Fox News, and many others routinely prey upon wild, baseless white fears that President Obama is engaged in reparations, that black goons are intimidating Republicans at the polls, that Obama is ushering in an era in which black kids beat up white ones. This is not a handful of incidents. McKay Coppins documented the imaginary race war that conservative media have peddled to their audience.

The policy grounds occupied by white racial conservatives today may be overwhelmingly less brutal than those it occupied a generation ago. But conservatives and libertarians didn’t merely “miss” the logic of the civil-rights movement, the way you might miss the housing bubble. They got it wrong for reasons that continue to be blindingly obvious today.

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8/28/2013  9:10 PM
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newyorknewyork wrote:African Americans spend the most money creating the most tax dollars. Yet the tax dollars don't seem to improve our communities, schooling system, or stop the police who we are the majority ethnic group paying there salaries from harassing us.

See to me this is racist.(Why are you signaling out just one race?) As Americans we all spend money and pay taxes. We all go to school and get jobs--whatever that may be. EVERYONE has an opportunity to take a book and read it. Everyone has the ability to work hard and save. We as a people not an individual race have been given the opportunity to succeed in life. This is true this is honest and everything else is excuse. In 2013 you can be whatever you want and no one can stop you if you have the drive.

How things should be and how things are are 2 separate things. Talking on an internet forum how things should be isn't getting the most help needed schools the help they need. Everyone has an opportunity to work hard and save. Everyone also has an opportunity to become a gang member and sell drugs as well. In some places the influence for the latter is stronger then the influence for the former. Just having an opportunity isn't realistically enough for a kid in middle school or high school who's decisions at this point in his life could drastically effect the rest of it. When the negative influences around him exceed the positive. Its very hard to not look at race when there are so many highly populated urban areas that have some of the worst school systems and living conditions.

If I was your brother by blood or your son just claiming well everyone has an opportunity wouldn't be enough for you right. You would want to ensure that I was in the best possible position to succeed. That the influences and possibilities to succeed far outweighed the influences and possibilities to fail. Same thing with American society. If in 2013 there is no more racial barriers and we are all just one people. Then there should be a lot more effort and results by America as a whole to improving the most help needed schools and communities then there has been.

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8/29/2013  6:00 AM
I just want any of you to give feed back on why blacks were left out of our AMERICAN HISTORY ! Did we do something wrong , Can any of you in this thread EXPLAIN ?

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8/29/2013  10:02 AM
You do the math

Dex Bryant is suspended 10 games for having lunch with Deion Sanders

Johnny Manziel gets 30 minutes for signing thousands of autographs that he was most certainly paid for.

Roll Tide.

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8/29/2013  10:25 AM    LAST EDITED: 8/29/2013  10:28 AM
playa2 wrote:I just want any of you to give feed back on why blacks were left out of our AMERICAN HISTORY ! Did we do something wrong , Can any of you in this thread EXPLAIN ?

the answer in painfully obvious. Fear, hate and greed.

Fear that the blacks would rise up and seek revenge/justice.

Hate of Black folk which I never understood since we didn't ask to be brought over here and didn't ask to be enslaved

Greed...many of those in power with family fortunes were originally built on the backs of slaves. Even aft slavery, this country was built on the backs of Blacks and Asians who, mostly had no say in the matter. This country would never have been properly settled by Europeans without the building of the Railroads and most of the laborers were Black and Asian.

the fact that you can't even have an unrelated thread without some tool here bringing him up make me think that rational minds are few and far between. Bunch of emotionally weak, angst riddled people. I mean, how many times can you argue the same shyt
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8/29/2013  11:29 AM
Soviet Russia was build on the backs of enslaved workers to build its infrastructure.

Colonialism of imperial Europe to all reaches of the globe built fortunes thru "Trade"........

Greed drives conquests over history. Romans, Egyptians, the Ottoman Empire, the cursades, In teh east you had "dynasties". Japan has often felt "entitled" to enslave what is Korea, Tawain, and China. Russians conquest into the east encompass many native populations. They did not choose to be ruled either.

Tribes in Africa enslaved other tribes and sold them. Still happens today!!!

It don't make it right by any Stretch, but it points to the cruel nature humans can have toward one another.

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8/29/2013  11:39 AM    LAST EDITED: 8/29/2013  11:40 AM
Nalod wrote:Soviet Russia was build on the backs of enslaved workers to build its infrastructure.

Colonialism of imperial Europe to all reaches of the globe built fortunes thru "Trade"........

Greed drives conquests over history. Romans, Egyptians, the Ottoman Empire, the cursades, In teh east you had "dynasties". Japan has often felt "entitled" to enslave what is Korea, Tawain, and China. Russians conquest into the east encompass many native populations. They did not choose to be ruled either.

Tribes in Africa enslaved other tribes and sold them. Still happens today!!!

It don't make it right by any Stretch, but it points to the cruel nature humans can have toward one another.

the difference between the tribes in Africa and the rest of the world is that those taken as slaves in tribal raids, weren't kept as slaves for their entire lives. They would serve a specific amount of years before being allowed to return to their tribes. Europeans took it to the extreme and tried to make it last for as many generations as they possibly could. So when Whites say, the Africans took slaves too, it was not the same concept of slavery as the Europeans enjoyed.

the more sophisticated Europeans used the trade to weaken the tribes to the point where they could come in and take complete control of the country, raping it of its natural resources. Then racists have the nerve to say Blacks should go back.......to what. What have you left there....an unstable region whose people suffer to this day. Who are the guerrilla's getting their guns from.....not many machine smith shops in Africa.

the fact that you can't even have an unrelated thread without some tool here bringing him up make me think that rational minds are few and far between. Bunch of emotionally weak, angst riddled people. I mean, how many times can you argue the same shyt
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8/29/2013  11:45 AM
misterearl wrote:You do the math

Dex Bryant is suspended 10 games for having lunch with Deion Sanders

Johnny Manziel gets 30 minutes for signing thousands of autographs that he was most certainly paid for.

Roll Tide.

Absurd but I wouldn't expect anything else coming out of Indiana. For those who don't know that's where the NCAA headquarters is. Racism is alive and well maybe not as much in our metropolitan area but certainly in other parts of the country and around the world

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8/29/2013  2:11 PM
Actually money is a big reason. Manziel comes from a filthy rich oil family. I'm sure that NCAA and lawyers cashed in big time
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8/29/2013  4:02 PM
playa2 wrote:I just want any of you to give feed back on why blacks were left out of our AMERICAN HISTORY ! Did we do something wrong , Can any of you in this thread EXPLAIN ?

Nalod , can we stick to the history of blacks being exterminated from American history books that told them who did what in this great country of ours. So you have to ask yourself were blacks so tremendous that they had to deceived from knowing who they really were by an American President ?

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8/29/2013  4:39 PM
A little perspective regarding African Americans:


Slavery in America began when the first African slaves were brought to the North American colony of Jamestown, Virginia, in 1619, to aid in the production of such lucrative crops as tobacco. Slavery was practiced throughout the American colonies in the 17th and 18th centuries, and African-American slaves helped build the economic foundations of the new nation. The invention of the cotton gin in 1793 solidified the central importance of slavery to the South's economy. By the mid-19th century, America's westward expansion, along with a growing abolition movement in the North, would provoke a great debate over slavery that would tear the nation apart in the bloody American Civil War (1861-65). Though the Union victory freed the nation's 4 million slaves, the legacy of slavery continued to influence American history, from the tumultuous years of Reconstruction (1865-77) to the civil rights movement that emerged in the 1960s, a century after emancipation.

Do you realize how hard it is to overcome hundreds of years of slavery and oppression? The damage done to self worth, family structures and the Black male during this countries history is incalculable. My dad was jaded by the racist times he lived in. Both my grandmothers are still alive in their 80's. Just lost my wife's grandmother this year she was 96. They've seen a lot but too many things remain the same from their youth til now. The legacy of slavery, Jim Crow, segregation, abject poverty, last hired and 1st fired, poor education, predatory business practices like the sub prime lending scandal and the great recession which left Blacks with less than half their wealth and twice the jobless rate of whites, voter suppression and gerrymandering is all one long continuation of roadblocks to Blacks in this country being able to progress.

There is no magic bullet to fix the inequality of this country or the world. The rich will always suppress the poor and the darker skinned peoples will be even lower on the totem pole as things have been for some time throughout the world. It's the easiest way to discriminate tho not the only way. Religion or ethnicity are used to discriminate as well but it's real easy to look at the darker person who stands out and can't blend in. This is why LAWS are the only way to make a change. Every change for making this country more equal came with the force of the federal government. Nothing has changed in that regard.

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8/29/2013  8:13 PM
Republican leaders could have attended yesterday's 50th anniversary celebration of the March on Washington. They were certainly invited.

Republicans unanimously declined. Where were they?

Insert answer here...

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