so for jordan 70 wins meant nothing,

but for us 54 is now we are on top of the mountains

knickscity wrote:

3G4G wrote:

knickscity wrote:

3G4G wrote:

knickscity wrote:

3G4G wrote:

knickscity wrote:

3G4G wrote:

knickscity wrote:

AnubisADL wrote:

Papabear wrote:Papabear Says

Well so much for Paul George Last night. What happened?? 13 points for this superstar? LOL Lebron and the Heat made Paul George more like Boy George. only 13 points wow.

Dude got his Andre Igoudala on.

Shot poorly and put up 8 assists.

Over reaction, but he isn't a susperstar and unless he can consistently hit a jumper and stop turning over the ball he never will be.

Neither is Melo as he's played like pure trash in 50-60% of the playoffs games as a Knick. Something a 10yr vet and consecutive yrs of playoff appearances respectively to produce individually better than he has.

Well if you're comparing him to Melo, then PG is overrated, no issues with me there.

If PG shows no growth from this point going forward your statement is true...

it's true regardless.

Actually it's not... a 10yr player made All NBA 2nd Team and 3yr player made All NBA 3rd Team.....

Actually those awards means nada.

Maybe you could be on to something here....

The 54 regular season wins meant nada

Melo's scoring title meant nada

J.R. Smith 6th MOY meant nada

Jason Kidd's SMOY meant nada

Getting past the 1st round only to lose to PG and the Pacers meant nada

Therefore Season=Failure like Shumpert said...

Shump is a pretty smart dude.

Shump needs to go and work on his layups this summer. Maybe he could have made an impact.

IronWillGiroud wrote:even jordan said, "70-12 doesn't mean a thing without the ring",

so for jordan 70 wins meant nothing,

but for us 54 is now we are on top of the mountains

Papabear Says

We might have gotten a ring if the refs would have made that call when Pipen and Jordan did foul smith in that playoff game. Also the Ewing suspension over that fight with the heat.

CrushAlot wrote:

IronWillGiroud wrote:even jordan said, "70-12 doesn't mean a thing without the ring",

so for jordan 70 wins meant nothing,

but for us 54 is now we are on top of the mountains

Well it was a fun season. The most exciting in thirteen years and the Knicks were much more competitive. I believe you said you didn't watch them this year or watch them much. Personally I think you missed out on a lot of excitement. I am usually just reading about potential draft picks in April and May.

CrushAlot wrote:

TeamBall wrote:

CrushAlot wrote:

IronWillGiroud wrote:even jordan said, "70-12 doesn't mean a thing without the ring",

so for jordan 70 wins meant nothing,

but for us 54 is now we are on top of the mountains

Well it was a fun season. The most exciting in thirteen years and the Knicks were much more competitive. I believe you said you didn't watch them this year or watch them much. Personally I think you missed out on a lot of excitement. I am usually just reading about potential draft picks in April and May.

Fun for us fans definitely. I really enjoyed the hell out of this season especially after having to hear Knicks jokes for years prior but I did have ECF aspirations for this team so it was kind of a let down for me. I can only imagine how the players feel since it seemed like they really believed they could contend.

They were on quite a role in April. After game 3 of the Celtics series everything seemed to fall apart. Anthony's shoulder injury also happened at a horrible time as his April was amazing.

Papabear wrote:

3G4G wrote:

knickscity wrote:

3G4G wrote:

knickscity wrote:

3G4G wrote:

knickscity wrote:

3G4G wrote:

knickscity wrote:

AnubisADL wrote:

Papabear wrote:Papabear Says

Well so much for Paul George Last night. What happened?? 13 points for this superstar? LOL Lebron and the Heat made Paul George more like Boy George. only 13 points wow.

Dude got his Andre Igoudala on.

Shot poorly and put up 8 assists.

Over reaction, but he isn't a susperstar and unless he can consistently hit a jumper and stop turning over the ball he never will be.

Neither is Melo as he's played like pure trash in 50-60% of the playoffs games as a Knick. Something a 10yr vet and consecutive yrs of playoff appearances respectively to produce individually better than he has.

Well if you're comparing him to Melo, then PG is overrated, no issues with me there.

If PG shows no growth from this point going forward your statement is true...

it's true regardless.

Actually it's not... a 10yr player made All NBA 2nd Team and 3yr player made All NBA 3rd Team.....

Actually those awards means nada.

Maybe you could be on to something here....

The 54 regular season wins meant nada

Melo's scoring title meant nada

J.R. Smith 6th MOY meant nada

Jason Kidd's SMOY meant nada

Getting past the 1st round only to lose to PG and the Pacers meant nada

Therefore Season=Failure like Shumpert said...

Papabear Says

I asume you are speaking for yourself because you'er surely not speaking for me. 13 years of hell and you mean to tell me this season meant nothing? Hey that's your problem. You deal with that but don't speak for this board.

This team will be judged on their title runs, not from the misery the fans had prior to their arrival.

Good regular season, dismal playoffs.

Playoffs>>>>>>>>>>regular season

VCoug wrote:

TeamBall wrote:

CrushAlot wrote:

TeamBall wrote:

CrushAlot wrote:

IronWillGiroud wrote:even jordan said, "70-12 doesn't mean a thing without the ring",

so for jordan 70 wins meant nothing,

but for us 54 is now we are on top of the mountains

Well it was a fun season. The most exciting in thirteen years and the Knicks were much more competitive. I believe you said you didn't watch them this year or watch them much. Personally I think you missed out on a lot of excitement. I am usually just reading about potential draft picks in April and May.

Fun for us fans definitely. I really enjoyed the hell out of this season especially after having to hear Knicks jokes for years prior but I did have ECF aspirations for this team so it was kind of a let down for me. I can only imagine how the players feel since it seemed like they really believed they could contend.

They were on quite a role in April. After game 3 of the Celtics series everything seemed to fall apart. Anthony's shoulder injury also happened at a horrible time as his April was amazing.

They looked like they recaptured that early season magic in April. Its just that once the playoffs hit, they gradually went further and further away from it. Melos been getting hit with injuries ever since coming here too. I dont know what it was like for him in Denver but even last season along he had like2 or 3 lingering injuries that didnt go away for a while. The season this team is healthy going into the playoffs is the season something big happens.

His last 4 seasons in Denver he missed 17, 5, 16, and 13 games during the regular season. I feel like if he put in more work during the offseason to get in better shape then he wouldn't keep on getting this nagging injuries during the season.

I agree about those seasons. I don't think that was the case this year. He missed time because of Howard's attempt at ending his season. He came into camp in great shape and had a great november/december. There was a lot of speculation that his better fitness level was related to his summer on the olympic team. I think that had a lot to do with it. This year we have to hope that he can work out and stay in shape with his shoulder issue. He maybe months behind in conditioning when camp starts if he has to have surgery.

Knixkik wrote:

NUPE wrote:Meh, Melo is better than George for now...

This board is overly obsessed with young emerging players.

George cant touch melo. He's a good player on a great team but he's grossly over hyped here.

sounds familiar...

CrushAlot wrote:

VCoug wrote:

TeamBall wrote:

CrushAlot wrote:

TeamBall wrote:

CrushAlot wrote:

IronWillGiroud wrote:even jordan said, "70-12 doesn't mean a thing without the ring",

so for jordan 70 wins meant nothing,

but for us 54 is now we are on top of the mountains

Well it was a fun season. The most exciting in thirteen years and the Knicks were much more competitive. I believe you said you didn't watch them this year or watch them much. Personally I think you missed out on a lot of excitement. I am usually just reading about potential draft picks in April and May.

Fun for us fans definitely. I really enjoyed the hell out of this season especially after having to hear Knicks jokes for years prior but I did have ECF aspirations for this team so it was kind of a let down for me. I can only imagine how the players feel since it seemed like they really believed they could contend.

They were on quite a role in April. After game 3 of the Celtics series everything seemed to fall apart. Anthony's shoulder injury also happened at a horrible time as his April was amazing.

They looked like they recaptured that early season magic in April. Its just that once the playoffs hit, they gradually went further and further away from it. Melos been getting hit with injuries ever since coming here too. I dont know what it was like for him in Denver but even last season along he had like2 or 3 lingering injuries that didnt go away for a while. The season this team is healthy going into the playoffs is the season something big happens.

His last 4 seasons in Denver he missed 17, 5, 16, and 13 games during the regular season. I feel like if he put in more work during the offseason to get in better shape then he wouldn't keep on getting this nagging injuries during the season.

I agree about those seasons. I don't think that was the case this year. He missed time because of Howard's attempt at ending his season. He came into camp in great shape and had a great november/december. There was a lot of speculation that his better fitness level was related to his summer on the olympic team. I think that had a lot to do with it. This year we have to hope that he can work out and stay in shape with his shoulder issue. He maybe months behind in conditioning when camp starts if he has to have surgery.

carmelo isn't devoted enough to winning to put his conditioning as a priority. he needs to lower his body fat percentage a few points and add some lean muscle mass to his core. but that isn't going to happen, and neither are his days of needing to score points at the expense of being a better teammate.

look at parker last night. he is clearly not flagging and is fresh at the end of games. the same used to be true of steve nash. jordan is another obvious example, as is stockton.

if he can't help but try to do it all by himself then he should at least be in supreme shape.

dk7th wrote:

CrushAlot wrote:

VCoug wrote:

TeamBall wrote:

CrushAlot wrote:

TeamBall wrote:

CrushAlot wrote:

IronWillGiroud wrote:even jordan said, "70-12 doesn't mean a thing without the ring",

so for jordan 70 wins meant nothing,

but for us 54 is now we are on top of the mountains

Well it was a fun season. The most exciting in thirteen years and the Knicks were much more competitive. I believe you said you didn't watch them this year or watch them much. Personally I think you missed out on a lot of excitement. I am usually just reading about potential draft picks in April and May.

Fun for us fans definitely. I really enjoyed the hell out of this season especially after having to hear Knicks jokes for years prior but I did have ECF aspirations for this team so it was kind of a let down for me. I can only imagine how the players feel since it seemed like they really believed they could contend.

They were on quite a role in April. After game 3 of the Celtics series everything seemed to fall apart. Anthony's shoulder injury also happened at a horrible time as his April was amazing.

They looked like they recaptured that early season magic in April. Its just that once the playoffs hit, they gradually went further and further away from it. Melos been getting hit with injuries ever since coming here too. I dont know what it was like for him in Denver but even last season along he had like2 or 3 lingering injuries that didnt go away for a while. The season this team is healthy going into the playoffs is the season something big happens.

His last 4 seasons in Denver he missed 17, 5, 16, and 13 games during the regular season. I feel like if he put in more work during the offseason to get in better shape then he wouldn't keep on getting this nagging injuries during the season.

I agree about those seasons. I don't think that was the case this year. He missed time because of Howard's attempt at ending his season. He came into camp in great shape and had a great november/december. There was a lot of speculation that his better fitness level was related to his summer on the olympic team. I think that had a lot to do with it. This year we have to hope that he can work out and stay in shape with his shoulder issue. He maybe months behind in conditioning when camp starts if he has to have surgery.

carmelo isn't devoted enough to winning to put his conditioning as a priority. he needs to lower his body fat percentage a few points and add some lean muscle mass to his core. but that isn't going to happen, and neither are his days of needing to score points at the expense of being a better teammate.

look at parker last night. he is clearly not flagging and is fresh at the end of games. the same used to be true of steve nash. jordan is another obvious example, as is stockton.

if he can't help but try to do it all by himself then he should at least be in supreme shape.

VCoug wrote:

CrushAlot wrote:

VCoug wrote:

TeamBall wrote:

CrushAlot wrote:

TeamBall wrote:

CrushAlot wrote:

IronWillGiroud wrote:even jordan said, "70-12 doesn't mean a thing without the ring",

so for jordan 70 wins meant nothing,

but for us 54 is now we are on top of the mountains

Well it was a fun season. The most exciting in thirteen years and the Knicks were much more competitive. I believe you said you didn't watch them this year or watch them much. Personally I think you missed out on a lot of excitement. I am usually just reading about potential draft picks in April and May.

Fun for us fans definitely. I really enjoyed the hell out of this season especially after having to hear Knicks jokes for years prior but I did have ECF aspirations for this team so it was kind of a let down for me. I can only imagine how the players feel since it seemed like they really believed they could contend.

They were on quite a role in April. After game 3 of the Celtics series everything seemed to fall apart. Anthony's shoulder injury also happened at a horrible time as his April was amazing.

They looked like they recaptured that early season magic in April. Its just that once the playoffs hit, they gradually went further and further away from it. Melos been getting hit with injuries ever since coming here too. I dont know what it was like for him in Denver but even last season along he had like2 or 3 lingering injuries that didnt go away for a while. The season this team is healthy going into the playoffs is the season something big happens.

His last 4 seasons in Denver he missed 17, 5, 16, and 13 games during the regular season. I feel like if he put in more work during the offseason to get in better shape then he wouldn't keep on getting this nagging injuries during the season.

I agree about those seasons. I don't think that was the case this year. He missed time because of Howard's attempt at ending his season. He came into camp in great shape and had a great november/december. There was a lot of speculation that his better fitness level was related to his summer on the olympic team. I think that had a lot to do with it. This year we have to hope that he can work out and stay in shape with his shoulder issue. He maybe months behind in conditioning when camp starts if he has to have surgery.

Yeah, this year was probably unavoidable. But last year he had that hamstring injury that was bothering him all year and something like that should be helped with better conditioning.