Per 36 rookie year (combined Lins first two years):

Nash: 65 games- 11.2 pts, 7.3 assist, 3.3 TOV

Lin: 64 games- 17.3 pts, 7.6 assist, 4.2 TOV

Nash was not exactly projecting to be a 2 time MVP was he?

Conclusion?

None!!!!! Lets come back in 5-6 years. Nash was an allstar in his 5th year at age 27.

I doubt he is as good as Nash but lets be real. It was about money.

3G4G wrote:

NUPE wrote:

tkf wrote:

NUPE wrote:

tkf wrote:

misterearl wrote:

BigDaddyG wrote:It looks like Lin lost some burst finishing at the rim. I don't think it's something a floater wouldn't fix. San Antonio's interior defense is too solid to try and penetrate against every time down the floor. He should look at some clips of Nash, Parker and Mark Jackson to figure out some sort of runner of tear drop shot.

The success of Lin had little to do with D'Anotini's "system". Lin simply caught the league guards off guard.

"Fool me once, shame on me... fool me twice, you can really play."

Ah Bs.... go ask the nets and the raptors whom he did very well against twice... it is funny how you pick and choose two games in which he didn't do so well the second game, and you then draw a conclusion.... how many bad games did felton have last year? felton had more back, to back to back bad games than he had good games.. heck we can say the same for this entire knicks roster..... this is so typical.... LOL

Well, we will see how things pan out with Lin. He clearly has proven he belongs in the NBA. The question is whether he will be a star/superstar as some here believe or a role player at best. Right now, he is definitely not a star and grossly overpaid, imo. He has potential to be really good but has several glaring deficiencies the main ones being running an offense and excessive turnovers. If he can improve on those two things then he should be a good pg in the long run.

My opinion on the Rockets is that they clearly dropped the ball in letting Dragic and Lowry get away then signing Lin who is inferior to Dragic and Lowry in just about every way possible.

LIN HAS a ways to go to prove himself, I look at him like I do most rookies..

as far as being overpaid.. AS knicks fans we can't talk.. we have a team full of them..

No, not really. Multiple teams were lining up to pay Melo. Chandler is worth every penny. Novak and JR are paid probably below their market value. Felton signed for cheap. Amar'e has averaged 22 and 8 and over a block as a Knick and is earning his contract. Shump. is on a rookie deal.

Who exactly is being overpaid on the Knicks?!?! How many teams were lining up to give Lin a contract like the one he got from the Rockets?!?!

Multiple teams lining up to pay and/or trade for Melo have little to do with being overpaid. Overpaid has more to do with productivity and results.

Amar'e and Melo are essentially the 5th and 6th highest paid players this season if you eliminate Gilbert Arenas who is not on an NBA roster at the moment. I'd qualify that as overpaid as it gets.

exactly... just because some teams were willing to overpay you does not mean you are no longer overpaid....

Nalod wrote:Wow, comparing to Nash now?

Per 36 rookie year (combined Lins first two years):

Nash: 65 games- 11.2 pts, 7.3 assist, 3.3 TOV

Lin: 64 games- 17.3 pts, 7.6 assist, 4.2 TOV

Nash was not exactly projecting to be a 2 time MVP was he?

Conclusion?

None!!!!! Lets come back in 5-6 years. Nash was an allstar in his 5th year at age 27.

I doubt he is as good as Nash but lets be real. It was about money.

I never compare dhim to nash in fact i said he will never go anywhere near Nash's level. However i did say taht Steve nash didnt become a star until his late 20's. I was just saying lin is young and has time to clean up his game IF he ever does become a star point guard

tkf wrote:

NUPE wrote:

IrishKnickFan wrote:

NUPE wrote:

GustavBahler wrote:http://knickerblogger.net/2012-report-card-jeremy-lin/

Thought this was an even handed look at Lin's game. Only preseason so its way too soon to write his obit.

Lin can score. That I agree with. However, he is a pg so his inability to handle the ball with both hands and avoid turnovers is extremely problematic. I think he will put up around 15 to 18 ppg in Hou with bad fg% and high to.

Lin has his issues plus he is only like 23 even nash had issues until his late 20's. Im not saying he will be anywhere near nash's level im just giving an example. But despite me moving on from lin i will say linsanity was the most fun i had watching the knicks since 2000

Lin may get better. As for Nash, he was never deficient in regards to ball handling and ball control.

I love how Lin MAY get better, but it is a certainty around here with some that melo and amare after 10 years are going to get better.. go figure.....

Who said anything about Melo and Amar'e getting better? They have already proven to be great players. I have said the Knicks, as a team, will improve based upon improved depth and substantially improvement at the pg position. You seem to be confusing team accomplishment / analysis versus player skill and/or are delusional.

As for Lin, he is 23 and obviously can improve but that is not guaranteed. This applies to all young players. Some improve, some get worse and others plateau early on with no improvement. Based upon the small sample from pre-season, Lin has not really improved, is still turnover prone and his coach is complaining about it ALREADY. But hey, you know more about hoops then Kevin McHale right....

tkf wrote:

3G4G wrote:

NUPE wrote:

tkf wrote:

NUPE wrote:

tkf wrote:

misterearl wrote:

BigDaddyG wrote:It looks like Lin lost some burst finishing at the rim. I don't think it's something a floater wouldn't fix. San Antonio's interior defense is too solid to try and penetrate against every time down the floor. He should look at some clips of Nash, Parker and Mark Jackson to figure out some sort of runner of tear drop shot.

The success of Lin had little to do with D'Anotini's "system". Lin simply caught the league guards off guard.

"Fool me once, shame on me... fool me twice, you can really play."

Ah Bs.... go ask the nets and the raptors whom he did very well against twice... it is funny how you pick and choose two games in which he didn't do so well the second game, and you then draw a conclusion.... how many bad games did felton have last year? felton had more back, to back to back bad games than he had good games.. heck we can say the same for this entire knicks roster..... this is so typical.... LOL

Well, we will see how things pan out with Lin. He clearly has proven he belongs in the NBA. The question is whether he will be a star/superstar as some here believe or a role player at best. Right now, he is definitely not a star and grossly overpaid, imo. He has potential to be really good but has several glaring deficiencies the main ones being running an offense and excessive turnovers. If he can improve on those two things then he should be a good pg in the long run.

My opinion on the Rockets is that they clearly dropped the ball in letting Dragic and Lowry get away then signing Lin who is inferior to Dragic and Lowry in just about every way possible.

LIN HAS a ways to go to prove himself, I look at him like I do most rookies..

as far as being overpaid.. AS knicks fans we can't talk.. we have a team full of them..

No, not really. Multiple teams were lining up to pay Melo. Chandler is worth every penny. Novak and JR are paid probably below their market value. Felton signed for cheap. Amar'e has averaged 22 and 8 and over a block as a Knick and is earning his contract. Shump. is on a rookie deal.

Who exactly is being overpaid on the Knicks?!?! How many teams were lining up to give Lin a contract like the one he got from the Rockets?!?!

Multiple teams lining up to pay and/or trade for Melo have little to do with being overpaid. Overpaid has more to do with productivity and results.

Amar'e and Melo are essentially the 5th and 6th highest paid players this season if you eliminate Gilbert Arenas who is not on an NBA roster at the moment. I'd qualify that as overpaid as it gets.

exactly... just because some teams were willing to overpay you does not mean you are no longer overpaid....

I guess Houston got Lin for beans then by Melo Lobbyist logic or we let him go for beans

Anji wrote:

earthmansurfer wrote:Anyone see what Scott Machado did in that same game that Lin threw up a stinker? He had like 7 assists in 20 minutes, 3/8 fg's. I really don't know why we didn't pick this kid up as a future pg like many of us wanted. Or how about that other rookie pg that articles a couple of months ago said we were hot on? I know we only have a 3 year window, but why not bring in some youth at the pg position, especially when there were a few promising prospects.

I don't even remember who the knicks drafted............did draft anybody last year???

AnubisADL wrote:Still waiting for Gallinari, Wilson Chandler, Nate Robinson, Anthony Randolph, and Mozgov to live up to their potential.

Lol.

Exactly. I am all for home grown talent and understand the appeal of that. However, at some point fans just need to accept reality. All those players have proven to be role players at very best. They have all been the league long enough for me to make that assessment.

NUPE wrote:

holfresh wrote:Lin on Free NBA league pass versus Mavs....

Lin is not playing, apparently. SMH. All these players on various teams not playing has made pre-season lame.

It's not like he needs the work or anything...

NUPE wrote:

holfresh wrote:Lin on Free NBA league pass versus Mavs....

Lin is not playing, apparently. SMH. All these players on various teams not playing has made pre-season lame.

Hasn't preseason always been lame? I'm pretty sure it's not something new.