CrushAlot wrote:

Nalod wrote:

CrushAlot wrote:

Nalod wrote:
Can't imagine why fans can't say....."We failed, but we'll be ok".

Now we got homers defending Dolans money.

Unreal!

IF we did not want him why we run around telling everyone he is the starting PG?
Made Woodson look stupid.

Are you trying to be provocative and ignore what you know about the new cba or have you just chosen not to learn about it?

Did woody ignore proclaiming he's the starting PG?

Everyone on the planet knew the KNicks wanted him. WE bluffed and lost. It happens.

WE lost. Could we have given him a 4 yr 20mm extension before Free agency?

Or one with an opt out to reset his contract?

We could not figure out how to keep him?

Im not buying "greed" as a valid reason and paint Lin as some villian here.

So you are saying he would tak 20 mil for four years instead of 24.8 mil for 3 years? I don't think that happens and I am not sure about the opt out or if it could be done. Grunwald has demonstrated a thorough understanding of the new cba in my opinion. Signing Jorts, Jordan, Gadz, and Jeffries to a second year that wasn't guaranteed so that he could use them in trades was brilliant. Amnestying Chauncey to get Tyson was also very shrewd in my opinion. I think if he could have done something without putting Lin out there that would have worked he would have. Lin did right by himself not settling for 5 mil a year. He may never have that opportunity again.

Grunny does not decide how to spend the money. The little man does. Few owners can do the Amnisty for 14mm and sign another player for 14mm. Thats 28mm right there for basically one player! The Little man has the deep pockets.

Grunny hid in the closet maybe thinking Dolan would calm down.

Im just not enough of a homer to think the knicks could have figured it out.

I LIke Grunny but Dolan controls the purse as do all owners.

Nalod wrote:

CrushAlot wrote:

Nalod wrote:

CrushAlot wrote:

Nalod wrote:
Can't imagine why fans can't say....."We failed, but we'll be ok".

Now we got homers defending Dolans money.

Unreal!

IF we did not want him why we run around telling everyone he is the starting PG?
Made Woodson look stupid.

Are you trying to be provocative and ignore what you know about the new cba or have you just chosen not to learn about it?

Did woody ignore proclaiming he's the starting PG?

Everyone on the planet knew the KNicks wanted him. WE bluffed and lost. It happens.

WE lost. Could we have given him a 4 yr 20mm extension before Free agency?

Or one with an opt out to reset his contract?

We could not figure out how to keep him?

Im not buying "greed" as a valid reason and paint Lin as some villian here.

So you are saying he would tak 20 mil for four years instead of 24.8 mil for 3 years? I don't think that happens and I am not sure about the opt out or if it could be done. Grunwald has demonstrated a thorough understanding of the new cba in my opinion. Signing Jorts, Jordan, Gadz, and Jeffries to a second year that wasn't guaranteed so that he could use them in trades was brilliant. Amnestying Chauncey to get Tyson was also very shrewd in my opinion. I think if he could have done something without putting Lin out there that would have worked he would have. Lin did right by himself not settling for 5 mil a year. He may never have that opportunity again.

Grunny does not decide how to spend the money. The little man does. Few owners can do the Amnisty for 14mm and sign another player for 14mm. Thats 28mm right there for basically one player! The Little man has the deep pockets.

Grunny hid in the closet maybe thinking Dolan would calm down.

Im just not enough of a homer to think the knicks could have figured it out.

I LIke Grunny but Dolan controls the purse as do all owners.

gunsnewing wrote:Knicks couldve had all those guys and felton resigning Lin. Thats what getting Lins bird rights was all about. It allowed them to go over the cap to resign their own player

Knicks added Felton after Lin accepted the Houston poison pill. They would not have both.

ChuckBuck wrote:

Nalod wrote:

ChuckBuck wrote:

gunsnewing wrote:

ChuckBuck wrote:

NUPE wrote:Apparently Lin is the second coming of Chris Paul and/or John Stockton. TKF has it all figured out and all the analyst, experts, gm's, and coaches that believe Lin is an average player - at best - have it wrong.

When people start calling Melo and Amar'e career losers while simultaneously claiming the Knicks made the playoffs solely because of Lin then I know it is time for me to exit a thread for good. Such an argument or assertion is so wholly baseless and ridiculous and does not warrant a credible response.

People that make such absurd claims, as above, also cried about trading away Gallo and Chandler and Felton and assorted other average players that have shown no ability to even carry a team into the playoffs. LMAO!

Pretty much. The same guys crying about Lin are the same guys that wept when Gallo was taken from their warm embrace.

Wrong. If im crying about Lin its because it is justified. I can usually make a case for losing a beloved player like lee and even ewing. Losing Lin is just inexplicabke

Can't see how a small sample size(25 starts) can justify a $25 million payday. That's like paying Jerome James $30million for 1 great first round playoff series he had with the Seattle Sonics.

Oh no! You pulled out the "Jerome James" card?

Ouch!

KNicks historically we got a whole deck of cards to play with!

KNicks paid Larry Brown 18mm for ONE SEASON!

Paid Marbury 20mm to go home! And we took Penny's contract to get this guy! Add Penny's 30 mil to Marbury's!

Paid Jailin Rose's last money.

And we can't fine the Money to pay for Lin?

Exactly great points Nalod! Thanks for backing my post. Now the Knicks actually are making good basketball moves.

So after squandering almost 200mm paying Lin a good contract to block any poisen pill before it becomes an issue is a good move.

Its like a crack addict who also drinks a quart of gin each day and smokes 2 packs of cigeretts refuse a Diet Coke because "suger subsitutes are not good for you".

Nalod wrote:

ChuckBuck wrote:

Nalod wrote:

ChuckBuck wrote:

gunsnewing wrote:

ChuckBuck wrote:

NUPE wrote:Apparently Lin is the second coming of Chris Paul and/or John Stockton. TKF has it all figured out and all the analyst, experts, gm's, and coaches that believe Lin is an average player - at best - have it wrong.

When people start calling Melo and Amar'e career losers while simultaneously claiming the Knicks made the playoffs solely because of Lin then I know it is time for me to exit a thread for good. Such an argument or assertion is so wholly baseless and ridiculous and does not warrant a credible response.

People that make such absurd claims, as above, also cried about trading away Gallo and Chandler and Felton and assorted other average players that have shown no ability to even carry a team into the playoffs. LMAO!

Pretty much. The same guys crying about Lin are the same guys that wept when Gallo was taken from their warm embrace.

Wrong. If im crying about Lin its because it is justified. I can usually make a case for losing a beloved player like lee and even ewing. Losing Lin is just inexplicabke

Can't see how a small sample size(25 starts) can justify a $25 million payday. That's like paying Jerome James $30million for 1 great first round playoff series he had with the Seattle Sonics.

Oh no! You pulled out the "Jerome James" card?

Ouch!

KNicks historically we got a whole deck of cards to play with!

KNicks paid Larry Brown 18mm for ONE SEASON!

Paid Marbury 20mm to go home! And we took Penny's contract to get this guy! Add Penny's 30 mil to Marbury's!

Paid Jailin Rose's last money.

And we can't fine the Money to pay for Lin?

Exactly great points Nalod! Thanks for backing my post. Now the Knicks actually are making good basketball moves.

So after squandering almost 200mm paying Lin a good contract to block any poisen pill before it becomes an issue is a good move.

Its like a crack addict who also drinks a quart of gin each day and smokes 2 packs of cigeretts refuse a Diet Coke because "suger subsitutes are not good for you".

Right. It's a new era of "Responsible" management. Who wants to see the same pattern of that last decade(Layden and IT overspending, trading, and flipping bad contract for bad contract) over and over again. Now you're seeing what I'm seeing. Everyone's signed up for the same time frame. All the big contracts are main players on the team, and the role players are easily moveable. If we don't succeed, 3 years from now we can blow it up no problem. All I know is the roster currently constructed actually makes sense. First time in awhile, we can say that about he Knicks. Lin only thrived really under D'Antoni's system. He was average under Woodson's system, and is probably average for the rest of his career. Don't think you can give Rondo money in year 3 to an average point guard.

ChuckBuck wrote:

Nalod wrote:

ChuckBuck wrote:

Nalod wrote:

ChuckBuck wrote:

gunsnewing wrote:

ChuckBuck wrote:

NUPE wrote:Apparently Lin is the second coming of Chris Paul and/or John Stockton. TKF has it all figured out and all the analyst, experts, gm's, and coaches that believe Lin is an average player - at best - have it wrong.

When people start calling Melo and Amar'e career losers while simultaneously claiming the Knicks made the playoffs solely because of Lin then I know it is time for me to exit a thread for good. Such an argument or assertion is so wholly baseless and ridiculous and does not warrant a credible response.

People that make such absurd claims, as above, also cried about trading away Gallo and Chandler and Felton and assorted other average players that have shown no ability to even carry a team into the playoffs. LMAO!

Pretty much. The same guys crying about Lin are the same guys that wept when Gallo was taken from their warm embrace.

Wrong. If im crying about Lin its because it is justified. I can usually make a case for losing a beloved player like lee and even ewing. Losing Lin is just inexplicabke

Can't see how a small sample size(25 starts) can justify a $25 million payday. That's like paying Jerome James $30million for 1 great first round playoff series he had with the Seattle Sonics.

Oh no! You pulled out the "Jerome James" card?

Ouch!

KNicks historically we got a whole deck of cards to play with!

KNicks paid Larry Brown 18mm for ONE SEASON!

Paid Marbury 20mm to go home! And we took Penny's contract to get this guy! Add Penny's 30 mil to Marbury's!

Paid Jailin Rose's last money.

And we can't fine the Money to pay for Lin?

Exactly great points Nalod! Thanks for backing my post. Now the Knicks actually are making good basketball moves.

So after squandering almost 200mm paying Lin a good contract to block any poisen pill before it becomes an issue is a good move.

Its like a crack addict who also drinks a quart of gin each day and smokes 2 packs of cigeretts refuse a Diet Coke because "suger subsitutes are not good for you".

Right. It's a new era of "Responsible" management. Who wants to see the same pattern of that last decade(Layden and IT overspending, trading, and flipping bad contract for bad contract) over and over again. Now you're seeing what I'm seeing. Everyone's signed up for the same time frame. All the big contracts are main players on the team, and the role players are easily moveable. If we don't succeed, 3 years from now we can blow it up no problem. All I know is the roster currently constructed actually makes sense. First time in awhile, we can say that about he Knicks. Lin only thrived really under D'Antoni's system. He was average under Woodson's system, and is probably average for the rest of his career. Don't think you can give Rondo money in year 3 to an average point guard.

One more time:

It never should have gotten to the point where a Poison Pill is presented. Don't leave ourselves volunerable.

Once we let Lin free to get offers we lost control. We would not have had to pay him "rondo" money.