gunsnewing wrote:

Bonn1997 wrote:

CashMoney wrote:

Bonn1997 wrote:

Anji wrote:Its funny looking at how lively the vultures are after the heat series.

SMH

The Knicks organization earned this criticism. No way we traded for Melo and signed Amare with the goal of going 1-8 in the playoffs.

1-8 due to the team being decimated by injuries in the playoffs 2 years in a row. Look at the heat, 1 game without Bosh and they get blown out. Brighter days are ahead buddy.

The injuries a symptom of the problem rather than being unrelated to it. We gave up our depth in the Melo trade and replaced that depth mostly with older, more injury prone, inferior players. Going into the season, our plan was to use Baron, Landry, Melo, Amare, Chandler as the starting 5. That 5 has had 45 seasons of wear and tear. You should expect many injuries.

How do u know that was the plan? Why did they add Lin, shump, novak & JR then if that was the definitive plan?

gunsnewing wrote:

KnicksFE wrote:

gunsnewing wrote:

Nalod wrote:

Swishfm3 wrote:

Nalod wrote:

Swishfm3 wrote:

Bonn1997 wrote:

holfresh wrote:

Nalod wrote:Brewer and Fernandez can walk next year????

OH KNOW! THEY ARE PHUCKED!!!!!!!!

And Andre Miller and like us, if their PG goes down yes, they are PHUCKED!!!!

Yeah but they're not dumb enough to go into the season planning for Toney Douglas to be the full time PG with Baron Davis and Mike Bibby as the backups.

you can blame the GREAT Donnie Walsh for that one

I thought Donnie was gone last summer?

Wasnt it Walsh who never addressed the PG issue knowing that MDA (the Coach he hired) needed a capable PG to run his offense?

He had felton. That was working.

Working towards what being the worst defensive team in nba history and perennial 1st round exit team? Dantoni & amare couldnt win with Nash, joe johnson & marion

Isn’t that what the Knicks currently are, a perennial 1st round exit team?

As far as the old Phoenix team, true, they couldn’t win the championship with the players they had, but they definitely past the first round way many more times than Melo’s Nuggets.

Who was Melo's 2nd star in Denver? Nene, Camby, JR, Billups? PHX had Amare, Nash, Joe Johnson & Marion

You may want to add that at some point Melo also played along side Allen Iverson, Andrew Miller and Kenyon Martin, pretty good team in my opinion, at least to past the first round.

KnicksFE wrote:

gunsnewing wrote:

KnicksFE wrote:

gunsnewing wrote:

Nalod wrote:

Swishfm3 wrote:

Nalod wrote:

Swishfm3 wrote:

Bonn1997 wrote:

holfresh wrote:

Nalod wrote:Brewer and Fernandez can walk next year????

OH KNOW! THEY ARE PHUCKED!!!!!!!!

And Andre Miller and like us, if their PG goes down yes, they are PHUCKED!!!!

Yeah but they're not dumb enough to go into the season planning for Toney Douglas to be the full time PG with Baron Davis and Mike Bibby as the backups.

you can blame the GREAT Donnie Walsh for that one

I thought Donnie was gone last summer?

Wasnt it Walsh who never addressed the PG issue knowing that MDA (the Coach he hired) needed a capable PG to run his offense?

He had felton. That was working.

Working towards what being the worst defensive team in nba history and perennial 1st round exit team? Dantoni & amare couldnt win with Nash, joe johnson & marion

Isn’t that what the Knicks currently are, a perennial 1st round exit team?

As far as the old Phoenix team, true, they couldn’t win the championship with the players they had, but they definitely past the first round way many more times than Melo’s Nuggets.

Who was Melo's 2nd star in Denver? Nene, Camby, JR, Billups? PHX had Amare, Nash, Joe Johnson & Marion

You may want to add that at some point Melo also played along side Allen Iverson, Andrew Miller and Kenyon Martin, pretty good team in my opinion, at least to past the first round.

Really? Those are the guys you come back with? An over the hill AI when pairing him with Melo was asinine to begin with. I guess we'll just have to agree to disagree on Melo's Denver teams

Nalod wrote:
Can Melo co-exist with a 2nd star?

Yes, Billups. I believe they advanced to the WCF and lost to the Lake-show...

gunsnewing wrote:

KnicksFE wrote:

gunsnewing wrote:

KnicksFE wrote:

gunsnewing wrote:

Nalod wrote:

Swishfm3 wrote:

Nalod wrote:

Swishfm3 wrote:

Bonn1997 wrote:

holfresh wrote:

Nalod wrote:Brewer and Fernandez can walk next year????

OH KNOW! THEY ARE PHUCKED!!!!!!!!

And Andre Miller and like us, if their PG goes down yes, they are PHUCKED!!!!

Yeah but they're not dumb enough to go into the season planning for Toney Douglas to be the full time PG with Baron Davis and Mike Bibby as the backups.

you can blame the GREAT Donnie Walsh for that one

I thought Donnie was gone last summer?

Wasnt it Walsh who never addressed the PG issue knowing that MDA (the Coach he hired) needed a capable PG to run his offense?

He had felton. That was working.

Working towards what being the worst defensive team in nba history and perennial 1st round exit team? Dantoni & amare couldnt win with Nash, joe johnson & marion

Isn’t that what the Knicks currently are, a perennial 1st round exit team?

As far as the old Phoenix team, true, they couldn’t win the championship with the players they had, but they definitely past the first round way many more times than Melo’s Nuggets.

Who was Melo's 2nd star in Denver? Nene, Camby, JR, Billups? PHX had Amare, Nash, Joe Johnson & Marion

You may want to add that at some point Melo also played along side Allen Iverson, Andrew Miller and Kenyon Martin, pretty good team in my opinion, at least to past the first round.

Really? Those are the guys you come back with? An over the hill AI when pairing him with Melo was asinine to begin with. I guess we'll just have to agree to disagree on Melo's Denver teams

Please define over the hill for me, because as far as I know

Iverson was 31 years old averaging 25 PPG with 7 APG while shooting over 45 FG%.

Andre Miller, was 30 years old averaging 13 PPG with 9 APG while shooting 47 PG%

And isn't the prime of most NBA player from 27 to 32 years old by the way?

KnicksFE wrote:

gunsnewing wrote:

KnicksFE wrote:

gunsnewing wrote:

KnicksFE wrote:

gunsnewing wrote:

Nalod wrote:

Swishfm3 wrote:

Nalod wrote:

Swishfm3 wrote:

Bonn1997 wrote:

holfresh wrote:

Nalod wrote:Brewer and Fernandez can walk next year????

OH KNOW! THEY ARE PHUCKED!!!!!!!!

And Andre Miller and like us, if their PG goes down yes, they are PHUCKED!!!!

Yeah but they're not dumb enough to go into the season planning for Toney Douglas to be the full time PG with Baron Davis and Mike Bibby as the backups.

you can blame the GREAT Donnie Walsh for that one

I thought Donnie was gone last summer?

Wasnt it Walsh who never addressed the PG issue knowing that MDA (the Coach he hired) needed a capable PG to run his offense?

He had felton. That was working.

Working towards what being the worst defensive team in nba history and perennial 1st round exit team? Dantoni & amare couldnt win with Nash, joe johnson & marion

Isn’t that what the Knicks currently are, a perennial 1st round exit team?

As far as the old Phoenix team, true, they couldn’t win the championship with the players they had, but they definitely past the first round way many more times than Melo’s Nuggets.

Who was Melo's 2nd star in Denver? Nene, Camby, JR, Billups? PHX had Amare, Nash, Joe Johnson & Marion

You may want to add that at some point Melo also played along side Allen Iverson, Andrew Miller and Kenyon Martin, pretty good team in my opinion, at least to past the first round.

Really? Those are the guys you come back with? An over the hill AI when pairing him with Melo was asinine to begin with. I guess we'll just have to agree to disagree on Melo's Denver teams

Please define over the hill for me, because as far as I know

Iverson was 31 years old averaging 25 PPG with 7 APG while shooting over 45 FG%.

Andre Miller, was 30 years old averaging 13 PPG with 9 APG while shooting 47 PG%

And isn't the prime of most NBA player from 27 to 32 years old by the way?

Not undersized 2-guards who take a pounding. No player has ever taken the pounding that AI took. It was inevitable that his career would be cut short in his early 30s. Gotta commend him for lasting as long. Derrick Rose doesn't drive nearly as much and is already broken down

CrushAlot wrote:

KnicksFE wrote:

gunsnewing wrote:

KnicksFE wrote:

gunsnewing wrote:

KnicksFE wrote:

gunsnewing wrote:

KnicksFE wrote:

gunsnewing wrote:

Nalod wrote:

Swishfm3 wrote:

Nalod wrote:

Swishfm3 wrote:

Bonn1997 wrote:

holfresh wrote:

Nalod wrote:Brewer and Fernandez can walk next year????

OH KNOW! THEY ARE PHUCKED!!!!!!!!

And Andre Miller and like us, if their PG goes down yes, they are PHUCKED!!!!

Yeah but they're not dumb enough to go into the season planning for Toney Douglas to be the full time PG with Baron Davis and Mike Bibby as the backups.

you can blame the GREAT Donnie Walsh for that one

I thought Donnie was gone last summer?

Wasnt it Walsh who never addressed the PG issue knowing that MDA (the Coach he hired) needed a capable PG to run his offense?

He had felton. That was working.

Working towards what being the worst defensive team in nba history and perennial 1st round exit team? Dantoni & amare couldnt win with Nash, joe johnson & marion

Isn’t that what the Knicks currently are, a perennial 1st round exit team?

As far as the old Phoenix team, true, they couldn’t win the championship with the players they had, but they definitely past the first round way many more times than Melo’s Nuggets.

Who was Melo's 2nd star in Denver? Nene, Camby, JR, Billups? PHX had Amare, Nash, Joe Johnson & Marion

You may want to add that at some point Melo also played along side Allen Iverson, Andrew Miller and Kenyon Martin, pretty good team in my opinion, at least to past the first round.

Really? Those are the guys you come back with? An over the hill AI when pairing him with Melo was asinine to begin with. I guess we'll just have to agree to disagree on Melo's Denver teams

Please define over the hill for me, because as far as I know

Iverson was 31 years old averaging 25 PPG with 7 APG while shooting over 45 FG%.

Andre Miller, was 30 years old averaging 13 PPG with 9 APG while shooting 47 PG%

And isn't the prime of most NBA player from 27 to 32 years old by the way?

Not undersized 2-guards who take a pounding. No player has ever taken the pounding that AI took. It was inevitable that his career would be cut short in his early 30s. Gotta commend him for lasting as long. Derrick Rose doesn't drive nearly as much and is already broken down

WRONG, Iverson's career was cut short due to his poor behavior in and out of the court, in his last season in the NBA, he was still very productive player and could have been a good 6 man on a very good team. Why don't you check his stat? And what does a 2010 Iverson has anything to do with a 2006/2007 Iverson in Dever?

Throughout his 13-year career, Iverson has played with blatant disregard for his opponents' size and his own physical well-being. It is a minor medical miracle that he has been so durable for so long, having crafted his reputation by challenging bigger men, throwing his boyish, 165-pound frame into bodies that are as thick as vending machines — and somehow escaping with all of his appendages intact.

http://www.commercialappeal.com/news/2009/oct/14/harms-way/?print=1

Agree, and when Iverson played next to Melo in Denver, he was still a very fine player.