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AnubisADL
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1/14/2012  10:16 PM
RonRon wrote:its not all Amare's fault but we have to pick one of our 3 to ship out if we are looking for a lot of talent.
As great as Melo is, he isn't worth what we gave up. Amare could have worked if we kept our team and added to that roster.
I keep bringing this up because we were in the right direction, till Dolan stepped in and traded for Melo.
We can't add the talent we need when 3 players are eating up all our cap like that. Amare and Melo are both not worthy together.
We are limited on our moves, with the 3 exemptions to use.
Everyone points figures at Amare, Fields, Melo, Iman, Tyson Chandler, TD, or Bibby, when it isn't their fault.
Its all because of what we gave up for Melo...

Amare, the Knicks, and Dantoni's system, needs a PG that has the respect and balls to facilitate.
Instead of letting Melo and Amare go ISO plays whenever they want to, run the PnR, and direct the team of what to do.

Fields is not a SG, has no handle, and can not penetrate. He stands out at the 3point line, pump fakes all the time but no one is even falling for it.
He is not a shooting or driving threat, he is just letting his guy playing him half ass, and its enough to contain him.
I have said this in the summer while many felt he was the worthy of the starting SG and said he was doubted and Walsh found a gem. Blah blah blah...
Fields benefited from Felton's penetration, Gallo and Wilson Chandler's games, the defense focused on Amare, and with ball movement/playing as the 5th option.

I was hoping to trade Amare to the Celtics for Ray Allan/KG, but if we continue to play this way, Amare's value will not even be worth the risk with his uninsured contract...
Again for all the people that supported the Melo trade, you are all wrong...
The amnesty helped us our with Chandler and Baron Davis already, yet its still not enough...
Tyson Chandler added to our pre Melo trade is exactly what we needed.
We also would be in discussions of adding Cp3/Deron as well....

Of course it isnt all Amare's fault but he is the weak link. We have Melo, Amare, and Chandler. Melo and Chandler are meshing well so Amare is the odd man out. He needs to adapt. Bosh has to adapt in Miami. If Amare can help us round out our situation then so be it.

We need a more balanced game from Amare. We dont need 20+ points a night. 20 and 10 should be more than double for someone making max dollars. I'm just saying.

You do the Melo trade even at this point. Why? Because Melo alone is worth more than what we sent out. Knicks have turned young players with "potential" into proven star players.

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1/14/2012  10:17 PM
Somehow, those Jeffries minutes should be going to Jordan.
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1/14/2012  10:18 PM
Whats funny is our defense doesnt look that bad. It's the fact we cant generate offense consistently.
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1/14/2012  10:19 PM
I like the hustle and energy from Balk tonight.
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1/14/2012  10:20 PM 
4th Qtr 2:38
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1/14/2012  10:20 PM
I don't understand why Balkman doesn't play more, other than he can't shoot 3s
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1/14/2012  10:21 PM
I was willing to give D'toni a little more time but they need to fire him so that Woodson or whoever they bring in will have time to work with the team before it's too late. D'toni's offense does not fit this team anymore and he does not know how to coach any other way.
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1/14/2012  10:21 PM    LAST EDITED: 1/14/2012  10:22 PM
Would we have been able to keep Gallanri, Chandler and felton ? I'm pretty sure they would have left after their contracts expired because they are seeking more money. Melo is the only one of them who is unguard-able. Amare is a max player who is not a 20-10 guy.
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1/14/2012  10:21 PM
matt wrote:I don't understand why Balkman doesn't play more, other than he can't shoot 3s

At least before they bring in Jeffries

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1/14/2012  10:25 PM 
4th Qtr 0:42
OKC 104 NYK 90
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1/14/2012  10:25 PM
Balkman is the best garbage time player ever
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1/14/2012  10:27 PM
AnubisADL wrote:Whats funny is our defense doesnt look that bad. It's the fact we cant generate offense consistently.

We have improved on Defense.
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1/14/2012  10:30 PM 
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1/14/2012  10:30 PM
This team needs to get healthy and just keep working. They can't let this period of bad play get to them. They just need to keep putting in the work to try and get better. They have been better defensively, but you can't have bad offense lead to EASY offense for the other team. Turnovers and wasted possessions where you don't get into your offense or take bad shots is what is killing the team right now.
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1/14/2012  10:31 PM
Sarcastic good points....bench scores 50, 5 guys in double figures, rebounds 43/38, 12 steals, Balks hustle....that is all!!
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1/14/2012  10:34 PM
ScoreBot wrote:
Final  
OKC 104 NYK 92

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1/14/2012  10:35 PM
On a positive note. Lin looked really good pushing the ball. He drove to the basket and was able to set up teammates. Please give Lin a chance.
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1/14/2012  10:36 PM
NYKBocker wrote:On a positive note. Lin looked really good pushing the ball. He drove to the basket and was able to set up teammates. Please give Lin a chance.

It was garbage time.

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1/14/2012  10:37 PM
AnubisADL wrote:
RonRon wrote:its not all Amare's fault but we have to pick one of our 3 to ship out if we are looking for a lot of talent.
As great as Melo is, he isn't worth what we gave up. Amare could have worked if we kept our team and added to that roster.
I keep bringing this up because we were in the right direction, till Dolan stepped in and traded for Melo.
We can't add the talent we need when 3 players are eating up all our cap like that. Amare and Melo are both not worthy together.
We are limited on our moves, with the 3 exemptions to use.
Everyone points figures at Amare, Fields, Melo, Iman, Tyson Chandler, TD, or Bibby, when it isn't their fault.
Its all because of what we gave up for Melo...

Amare, the Knicks, and Dantoni's system, needs a PG that has the respect and balls to facilitate.
Instead of letting Melo and Amare go ISO plays whenever they want to, run the PnR, and direct the team of what to do.

Fields is not a SG, has no handle, and can not penetrate. He stands out at the 3point line, pump fakes all the time but no one is even falling for it.
He is not a shooting or driving threat, he is just letting his guy playing him half ass, and its enough to contain him.
I have said this in the summer while many felt he was the worthy of the starting SG and said he was doubted and Walsh found a gem. Blah blah blah...
Fields benefited from Felton's penetration, Gallo and Wilson Chandler's games, the defense focused on Amare, and with ball movement/playing as the 5th option.

I was hoping to trade Amare to the Celtics for Ray Allan/KG, but if we continue to play this way, Amare's value will not even be worth the risk with his uninsured contract...
Again for all the people that supported the Melo trade, you are all wrong...
The amnesty helped us our with Chandler and Baron Davis already, yet its still not enough...
Tyson Chandler added to our pre Melo trade is exactly what we needed.
We also would be in discussions of adding Cp3/Deron as well....

Of course it isnt all Amare's fault but he is the weak link. We have Melo, Amare, and Chandler. Melo and Chandler are meshing well so Amare is the odd man out. He needs to adapt. Bosh has to adapt in Miami. If Amare can help us round out our situation then so be it.

We need a more balanced game from Amare. We dont need 20+ points a night. 20 and 10 should be more than double for someone making max dollars. I'm just saying.

You do the Melo trade even at this point. Why? Because Melo alone is worth more than what we sent out. Knicks have turned young players with "potential" into proven star players.

its because of the quality players we traded away for Melo. Fans like you and Dolan will just not understand...
It is not about Melo, its about the what we gave away and our inability to acquire talent after having Amare + Melo after that....
Amare would have been fine if we added Tyson Chandler to that core...
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1/14/2012  10:38 PM
We turn the ball over too much. Amare almost every time he drives into the paint loses the handle on the ball. Amare must think he is a small forward.
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