CrushAlot wrote:

nixluva wrote:

Papabear wrote:Papabear Says

D'Antoni does not believe in big men at center.

More foolishness. We started the season with a rookie 7'er. He has never said that he doesn't want to play a big. The circumstances have worked out that we don't have GOOD size and that's the only reason he goes small. It doesn't matter what is said, cuz all the haters are going to just revel in this and hope that D'Antoni gets fired. He NEVER had a team this bad defensively when he was winning in PHX. They may not have been great defensive teams, but they gave effort and won a ton of games. His teams were always near the top in Point Differential, which you can't do if you aren't defending.

What we need is to finish upgrading this roster with the size and rebounding we need and to finally start to build some chemistry and continuity. At some point we've got to stop the player merry go round. Too much change in too short of a time over the last 3 years.

Moz started 9 of the first 11 games and then came off the bench before becoming a dnp guy for 20 games. He didn't get many minutes either but some of that was due to his propensity to pick up fouls at a very quick rate. However, it is pretty hard to win an argument saying the Knicks didn't have good size when Randolph has blocked 3 shots, grabbed 27 rebounds and scored 55 points in his first two games starting this year.

CrushAlot wrote:

nixluva wrote:

CrushAlot wrote:

nixluva wrote:

Papabear wrote:Papabear Says

D'Antoni does not believe in big men at center.

More foolishness. We started the season with a rookie 7'er. He has never said that he doesn't want to play a big. The circumstances have worked out that we don't have GOOD size and that's the only reason he goes small. It doesn't matter what is said, cuz all the haters are going to just revel in this and hope that D'Antoni gets fired. He NEVER had a team this bad defensively when he was winning in PHX. They may not have been great defensive teams, but they gave effort and won a ton of games. His teams were always near the top in Point Differential, which you can't do if you aren't defending.

What we need is to finish upgrading this roster with the size and rebounding we need and to finally start to build some chemistry and continuity. At some point we've got to stop the player merry go round. Too much change in too short of a time over the last 3 years.

Moz started 9 of the first 11 games and then came off the bench before becoming a dnp guy for 20 games. He didn't get many minutes either but some of that was due to his propensity to pick up fouls at a very quick rate. However, it is pretty hard to win an argument saying the Knicks didn't have good size when Randolph has blocked 3 shots, grabbed 27 rebounds and scored 55 points in his first two games starting this year.

Really? You're gonna bring up AR when we needed a C that can bang inside. Was AR gonna do that for us. We already get a lot of blocked shots. That's not the problem. We need tough interior D, Man D and rebounding. It's great to see that AR is now rebounding, but the way he was playing here he needed to do a lot more than that to justify getting minutes.

What makes you think this coach is going to play a bang inside center? He has had no use for anyone that fits that description during his time here. The guy I keep hearing people say would be perfect is Camby. Randolph is 6'11". Shelden Williams is 6'8". Rony Turiaf is busted up. Jeffries is almost as thin boned as Randolph and can't rebound or score so yeah I am going to bring up Randolph. It is a shame that the D'Antoni mishandled him the way he did because he could have helped.

Which 7' banger did we have that Mike didn't play? Timo was the closest thing we had to that and he did play the kid. He also pulled him when he felt that the kid was overwhelmed, but he eventually got him back in. AR is a different case. I was very excited to have AR and I hoped that he would work here. Every single report we've had says that AR was not giving great effort and wasn't improving. He certainly never showed that in any games he got in. I think this system just didn't fit AR. I don't believe AR was mishandled, cuz he wasn't right for what we needed at the time. Where was AR gonna play and who's place was he gonna take? AR is gonna have to play well for an extended period of time before I get all excited about what he's done in Minny. I'm glad for him, but i'm not getting carried away either.

Knicksfan wrote:

Juice wrote:LOL Bill Walker is playing.....

COACH BY FEEL

He's just randomly putting in guys something fans said he shouldn't do.

He is desperate. Still stubborn, but now desperate.

D’Antoni adjusted his starting lineup Saturday, inserting Toney Douglas in place of Landry Fields, and noted some progress. But he conceded that at times, he was still experimenting.

“It’s not a consistent thing from night to night that I know I can count on that and count on this,” he said, “and that’s where we kind of get in trouble. I’m grasping at straws a little bit, and hopefully, I can settle down and not do that.”

Paladin55 wrote:

Knicksfan wrote:

nixluva wrote:

Knicksfan wrote:I truly don't think this is chemistry anymore. This is us not being able to overcome our main deficiencies roster-wise and not being able to adapt the so-called system to use the pieces we have in order to win. This is us hitting a wall and not being able to move any further.

You'd think even a broken clock is right twice a day, but so far this team can't get a single win even by accident. I have a hard time thinking this team won't win again but not for their play, but because nothing in life is so consistent, especially on basketball. The Cavs won again, right?

Things are horrible when your team is probably making the playoffs and there is no ounce of you excited about it.

Baby steps. At least tonight I saw a bit more of a confidence on offense. They were passing the ball and moving. Still not great, but it was better. The defense was mostly bad, but they had some good moments which allowed them to get back in the game. They just have to stop getting behind in games early so that they don't have to overcome such huge leads just to be in the game.

Baby steps my glass! Any system that is so hard for a veteran team to learn simply isn't worth it, especially one that has always been suspect on defense. You think we just played bad on defense? You may not see it as your love for the coach won't allow it, but our defense has always been bad, no matter who we have on the team. You think D'Antoni will stress defense as the responsible for this loss? No, we simply didn't make our shots. We were outrebounded again on both ends, we were bullied by terrible big men and we couldn't get stops when we had to.

Still, we don't need any help at center. We are fine starting a spent Amar'e at center (that move was genius by D'Antoni, wasn't it?). Yeah, we have no better option, right? Why the heck you sign Jeffries and keep Sheldon? But no, we don't need anybody over 7'0" that while nothing great is still better than everything we have at center and could make Amar'e be more effective at PF. But no, we don't need that.

This team shouldn't be as lost as they are. No other coach would have them this lost and if you disagree you are just biased. Why? Because when a champion like Billups, who had been playing solid this season before getting there, has said he is still lost. A veteran like that is lost, you wonder why the rest is lost? They shouldn't be, not at this point of the season, trade or not. There should've been a tweak in the system to make the players have the best chance at getting wins right now. We did that the first few games after the trade. Since, the system has been spoon-fed to the players and they don't get it.

You say there is an improvement? Give me a break, this script has been repeated over and over for the last month. We come out of the gates without energy, lose focus many times and allow big runs, have to use lots of energy to make a comeback, can't get any stop and trade baskets and then finally lose the game. You get more offensive flow in a game but no defense. Next game you get a little more defense and the offense sucks. Next game, pattern repeats. Improvement? Hardly enough to be excited about.

This is a lowly team. It shouldn't be. It shouldn't be.

This is not on the coach, IMO. He had 4 guys who had started on the team taken from him with 30 games or so to go, and was handed 2 guys who are not able to play the kind of ball he wants to play. You set MDA up to fail with this trade.

Do you think there is a reason that Denver's offense has not missed a step with the loss of Billups and Anthony, while their D is giving up about 10 or so fewer points/game since the exchange?

That's because they don't play such a complicated system to follow offensively and because they do stress defense.

Nalod wrote:

Marv wrote:nalod, how was the show?

She is there with the legends......James Brown, Tina (in prime), and Otis........

Was blown away by the live show. This women should be on broadway! She owns the stage.

Video can't capture it, but this is a start. Oh, she is 55 years old!!!!

Video may not make her justice, but damm that's awesome!

People like this don't come around very often and she is one ACL injury away from losing that move! "Great got almighty that women can move that thang"!