Knicksfan wrote:What excuse will it be tonight?

I'd like to say I care but this team has left the fan in me in a coma. I love the Knicks, but this edition is killing me softly to the point I don't expect wins anymore and a loss like this one isn't that shocking nor infuriating.

I don't feel this team at all. If they make the playoffs playing like this, its gonna be as exciting as a headache.

It's hard to deal with when you're team is struggling like this. It's one of those unexplainable funks that teams go thru. Even when we 1st made the trade, we didn't struggle like this offensively. We know the team is gonna be up and down on D, but for this team to struggle to score it tells me there's some strange things going on. That's just not normal.

I'm hoping and praying that they snap out of this before the playoffs, cuz who wants to see this team playing like this in the playoffs?

Juice wrote:

AnubisADL wrote:Jennings tore us a new one.

Jennings plays under control most of the time. Douglas is Helter Skelter with no sense of pacing.

We need our PG to run the offense like Jennings.

Im also confused why we didn't double team Jennings like other teams do.

We were still trying to figure out how to get out of our 5th game post trade confusion of how to guard the PNR. You got it right tonight Jennings and Bogut were very good. You know though the Jennings we saw tonight is not and has not been the 2010-11 Jennings. If Delfino can drop 30 on us..... Jennings the star you think he is, should have dropped 60....so he still failed

Good point about doubling Jennings and forcing Salmons beat us all night

I'd say we need our point guard to run our offense like Kyle Lowry and add in play defense like him

We're a team full of misfits at this point.

Im not saying Jennings is a star. Im saying he is an above average PG.

Jennings runs the offense. He dropped 37 on us because we dont defend the paint. We gave him wide open layups.

Kyle Lowry is a solid PG but his PG's skills are weak.

Jennings would be nasty with guys who can finish.

If we had double Jennings he doesnt get 30+ points and the Bucks lose.

AnubisADL wrote:

Juice wrote:

AnubisADL wrote:Jennings tore us a new one.

Jennings plays under control most of the time. Douglas is Helter Skelter with no sense of pacing.

We need our PG to run the offense like Jennings.

Im also confused why we didn't double team Jennings like other teams do.

We were still trying to figure out how to get out of our 5th game post trade confusion of how to guard the PNR. You got it right tonight Jennings and Bogut were very good. You know though the Jennings we saw tonight is not and has not been the 2010-11 Jennings. If Delfino can drop 30 on us..... Jennings the star you think he is, should have dropped 60....so he still failed

Good point about doubling Jennings and forcing Salmons beat us all night

I'd say we need our point guard to run our offense like Kyle Lowry and add in play defense like him

We're a team full of misfits at this point.

Im not saying Jennings is a star. Im saying he is an above average PG.

Jennings runs the offense. He dropped 37 on us because we dont defend the paint. We gave him wide open layups.

Kyle Lowry is a solid PG but his PG's skills are weak.

Jennings would be nasty with guys who can finish.

If we had double Jennings he doesnt get 30+ points and the Bucks lose.

Lowry averages 1.5ast/gm more than Jennings on the year. He has a higher ast/to ratio. He has a better fg% and 3pt%. He has no real finishers in the starting lineup. Those players come off the bench in which he doesn't log heavy minutes with.

Once again you're probably right about doubling. Force someone else to run offense. I think we feared Delfino going Hansbrough squared on us, therefore Jennings better treat the spainard for dinner tonight.

Edit: Delfino might be from South America but the suggestion still holds

nixluva wrote:

Knicksfan wrote:What excuse will it be tonight?

I'd like to say I care but this team has left the fan in me in a coma. I love the Knicks, but this edition is killing me softly to the point I don't expect wins anymore and a loss like this one isn't that shocking nor infuriating.

I don't feel this team at all. If they make the playoffs playing like this, its gonna be as exciting as a headache.

It's hard to deal with when you're team is struggling like this. It's one of those unexplainable funks that teams go thru. Even when we 1st made the trade, we didn't struggle like this offensively. We know the team is gonna be up and down on D, but for this team to struggle to score it tells me there's some strange things going on. That's just not normal.

I'm hoping and praying that they snap out of this before the playoffs, cuz who wants to see this team playing like this in the playoffs?

TymeLessKnicks wrote:

Papabear wrote:

misterearl wrote:THIS JUST IN

Anthony Randolph against one of the best young teams in the NBA, Oklahoma City

8-13 from the field, 20 points 11 rebounds, one assist one block and one steal

Papabear Says

Did they win?

they lost.

http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/boxscore;_ylt=AnmdRLADhMyGokmYXja6pKu8vLYF?gid=2011032525

24 and 15 for Randolph with 2 blocks.

nixluva wrote:

Knicksfan wrote:What excuse will it be tonight?

I'd like to say I care but this team has left the fan in me in a coma. I love the Knicks, but this edition is killing me softly to the point I don't expect wins anymore and a loss like this one isn't that shocking nor infuriating.

I don't feel this team at all. If they make the playoffs playing like this, its gonna be as exciting as a headache.

It's hard to deal with when you're team is struggling like this. It's one of those unexplainable funks that teams go thru. Even when we 1st made the trade, we didn't struggle like this offensively. We know the team is gonna be up and down on D, but for this team to struggle to score it tells me there's some strange things going on. That's just not normal.

I'm hoping and praying that they snap out of this before the playoffs, cuz who wants to see this team playing like this in the playoffs?

Papabear Says

Maybe they better stay out of the clubs at night. Go home and get some rest.

Juice wrote:Lowry averages 1.5ast/gm more than Jennings on the year. He has a higher ast/to ratio. He has a better fg% and 3pt%. He has no real finishers in the starting lineup. Those players come off the bench in which he doesn't log heavy minutes with.

Once again you're probably right about doubling. Force someone else to run offense. I think we feared Delfino going Hansbrough squared on us, therefore Jennings better treat the spainard for dinner tonight.

Edit: Delfino might be from South America but the suggestion still holds

Lowry is playing with Kevin Martin and Luis Scola.

question is the coach. Same coach that had them in the 6th seed and while not perfect were improving. The trade rumors hurt both Denver and Knicks. The trade helped the Knuggs.

Blame is the trade for now. until we get a 1 and a 5 we will be dysfunctional.

Bring in ANOTHER coach? Not sure thats the answer, but I don't really understand how to fix it either.

nixluva wrote:

Knicksfan wrote:What excuse will it be tonight?

I'd like to say I care but this team has left the fan in me in a coma. I love the Knicks, but this edition is killing me softly to the point I don't expect wins anymore and a loss like this one isn't that shocking nor infuriating.

I don't feel this team at all. If they make the playoffs playing like this, its gonna be as exciting as a headache.

It's hard to deal with when you're team is struggling like this. It's one of those unexplainable funks that teams go thru. Even when we 1st made the trade, we didn't struggle like this offensively. We know the team is gonna be up and down on D, but for this team to struggle to score it tells me there's some strange things going on. That's just not normal.

I'm hoping and praying that they snap out of this before the playoffs, cuz who wants to see this team playing like this in the playoffs?

nixluva wrote:

buddapaw wrote:

nixluva wrote:

buddapaw wrote:FIRE times a million... Skiles saw the Knicks get an easy basket, he calls a timeout and get on his players. see his team getting run out of the building he just ****ing stands there with a dumbassed look on his face. This is reaching Isiah levels now.

What the freak is he supposed to do when his best players are not getting it done. You think we can just win games without them playing well? These repeated statements from some Knick fans are just ignorant. This team was averaging 106 ppg and now we struggle to get 90 pts. That just doesn't make sense. The team is built to be a shutdown team. Not without more size. That trade only made us weaker on D, so the team MUST be good on offense. For some reason we've gotten worse.

It is well known that DOES NOT put an emphasis on defense, we are a one trick pony team when we can't score we ****ing lose. The ignorant one is you bro, believing that this joker with his run and gun no defense style is going to win the big one day. Child please.

Oh shut up. You're just spouting the same parrot talk all these other guys have been. No real analysis of what's really happening on the court. Just "MDA doesn't focus on defense" as if that's the only thing you need to do and every team in the league would be defensive juggernauts. It doesn't work like that. At some point you need to have the right players to get the job done. Our best 2 players aren't good or committed defenders and since they log starter minutes that means when their on the floor you have some holes on D.

Tonight the Knicks didn't lose due to D. Sure it wasn't great D, but this was about horrid offense, much like the other losses have been. we haven't reached 100 pts in any of the last 5 losses!!! This for a team that avg'd 106. To me that is a problem with the offense. This team isn't setup to be great on D. We have to be great on offense.

LMAO at your comment, yeah Bogut waltzing down the lane for layups all game had NOTHING to do with the loss. My sig is a few years old but it is still relevant. BAD SHOTS + POOR DEFENSE + POOR NO COACHING ADJUSTMENTS = MANY LOSSES. Carry on

buddapaw wrote:

nixluva wrote:

buddapaw wrote:

nixluva wrote:

buddapaw wrote:FIRE times a million... Skiles saw the Knicks get an easy basket, he calls a timeout and get on his players. see his team getting run out of the building he just ****ing stands there with a dumbassed look on his face. This is reaching Isiah levels now.

What the freak is he supposed to do when his best players are not getting it done. You think we can just win games without them playing well? These repeated statements from some Knick fans are just ignorant. This team was averaging 106 ppg and now we struggle to get 90 pts. That just doesn't make sense. The team is built to be a shutdown team. Not without more size. That trade only made us weaker on D, so the team MUST be good on offense. For some reason we've gotten worse.

It is well known that DOES NOT put an emphasis on defense, we are a one trick pony team when we can't score we ****ing lose. The ignorant one is you bro, believing that this joker with his run and gun no defense style is going to win the big one day. Child please.

Oh shut up. You're just spouting the same parrot talk all these other guys have been. No real analysis of what's really happening on the court. Just "MDA doesn't focus on defense" as if that's the only thing you need to do and every team in the league would be defensive juggernauts. It doesn't work like that. At some point you need to have the right players to get the job done. Our best 2 players aren't good or committed defenders and since they log starter minutes that means when their on the floor you have some holes on D.

Tonight the Knicks didn't lose due to D. Sure it wasn't great D, but this was about horrid offense, much like the other losses have been. we haven't reached 100 pts in any of the last 5 losses!!! This for a team that avg'd 106. To me that is a problem with the offense. This team isn't setup to be great on D. We have to be great on offense.

LMAO at your comment, yeah Bogut waltzing down the lane for layups all game had NOTHING to do with the loss. My sig is a few years old but it is still relevant. BAD SHOTS + POOR DEFENSE + POOR NO COACHING ADJUSTMENTS = MANY LOSSES. Carry on