Paladin55 wrote:The real issue is that Denver has not just fallen apart as a team with the loss of their "superstar" and starting PG, and that we may have a kind of addition by subtraction thing going on out West.

come playoff time we'll see how much losing their top 2 closers effect their team... if they can overcome that all props to George Karl & the players on that team.

TMS wrote:

Paladin55 wrote:The real issue is that Denver has not just fallen apart as a team with the loss of their "superstar" and starting PG, and that we may have a kind of addition by subtraction thing going on out West.

come playoff time we'll see how much losing their top 2 closers effect their team... if they can overcome that all props to George Karl & the players on that team.

Lets see that team navigate its way to the western conference finals and push the Lakers to the limit before we start talking about addition by subtratcion.

Just think how many games Denver will win when they get a full camp and Karl doesn't have to spend the summer battling Cancer....Maybe an 82-0 season. Had they had a camp with this squad no way they drop the 2gms they have since the trade

nixluva wrote:

TMS wrote:

Paladin55 wrote:The real issue is that Denver has not just fallen apart as a team with the loss of their "superstar" and starting PG, and that we may have a kind of addition by subtraction thing going on out West.

come playoff time we'll see how much losing their top 2 closers effect their team... if they can overcome that all props to George Karl & the players on that team.

Denver unlike us added a significant amount of talent that perfectly fit the style they play. Felton offset the loss of CHauncey and he loves to push the ball. Chandler may not be Melo, but he plays in the flow and is a team player. We're the ones who sent away more guys that were part of our actual rotation and we took back Melo and Chauncey who excel in a style that is different from what we want to play. So we had more of an adjustment to make on both ends. It's still not been 17-20 games, so there's still time for this unit to get it together.

the Knicks are trying to incorporate 6 new guys into their rotation, the Nuggets have only had to really incorporate Felton & Chandler, Gallo's only played 2 games, 1 of them he was great the other he was horrendous & Mozgov is a bench warmer there... we've got Melo & Stat trying to learn how to play together on top of that Billups, AC & Shelden trying to learn a brand new system & 2 other new role players MDA's just now putting into the mix in Mason Jr. & Jeffries who Amare & all the new guys have no experience playing with either, but people think this brand new squad is supposed to click right away after a week & a half of games.

TMS wrote:i'm happy with the fact we now have 2 studs to build around, the hardest part is done... finding the right role players to put around them isn't gonna be a cakewalk but still a helluva lot easier than it was getting to this point... a lot depends on what happens w/the new CBA, no one really knows what to expect... i don't think we're that far off though, a shotblocking C who can guard the paint is our only real need.

Knowing Donnie he's gonna make sure we have a few new big bodies next year.

nixluva wrote:

TMS wrote:i'm happy with the fact we now have 2 studs to build around, the hardest part is done... finding the right role players to put around them isn't gonna be a cakewalk but still a helluva lot easier than it was getting to this point... a lot depends on what happens w/the new CBA, no one really knows what to expect... i don't think we're that far off though, a shotblocking C who can guard the paint is our only real need.

Knowing Donnie he's gonna make sure we have a few new big bodies next year.

that all depends on his willingness to sacrifice flexibility for the summer of 2012... one news report i read have the Knicks moving to buy Chauncey out of his contract this summer not to release him but to sign him to a more cap friendly longterm deal to give them more flexibility this summer to sign a C... i'd be down for that strategy if Billups doesn't keep struggling the rest of the way... if we can land a shotblocking C who can grab rebounds in the paint & add him to Stat Melo Billups & Landry that's a top 5 that most Knick fans can get excited about.

NYKBocker wrote:I sure hope we scrap the 3 superstar idea. I want Donnie to build this right. I want a deep bench that goes 8-9 deep. I think the key will be Billups and how much TD can improve. If TD can be a Charlie Ward type player and Donnie gets us a couple of defensive, rebounding centers. I think we will be very good next year.

NYKBocker wrote:I sure hope we scrap the 3 superstar idea. I want Donnie to build this right. I want a deep bench that goes 8-9 deep. I think the key will be Billups and how much TD can improve. If TD can be a Charlie Ward type player and Donnie gets us a couple of defensive, rebounding centers. I think we will be very good next year.

Dwight Howard is the exception. Would you include Deron?

IMHO Knicks have a legitimate chance at both. If Knicks keep Chauncy next year, would you be against adding either?

martin wrote:

NYKBocker wrote:I sure hope we scrap the 3 superstar idea. I want Donnie to build this right. I want a deep bench that goes 8-9 deep. I think the key will be Billups and how much TD can improve. If TD can be a Charlie Ward type player and Donnie gets us a couple of defensive, rebounding centers. I think we will be very good next year.

Dwight Howard is the exception. Would you include Deron?

IMHO Knicks have a legitimate chance at both. If Knicks keep Chauncy next year, would you be against adding either?

Hmmm....I was actually thinking about that after I posted. I think Dwight would be the exception. Deron? I don't know. With Melo, you really don't need a top of the line PG.

For when this thread gets bumped in like 2 yrs.