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Solace
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2/21/2011  10:52 PM
loweyecue wrote:So can we confirm and Curry/AR are still here? If so we do have some ap space to trade with or an expiring - however you look at it.

We gave up every asset we had, minus Fields, Amar'e. That's all. Incredible.

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2/21/2011  10:52 PM
In the end I don't care about those assets we gave up. It was the price of doing business and getting this done with a good 29 games left to try and work on some chemistry. This isn't just about this year but the next 5 years or more. We can work to find the final pieces to have a true contender. It's very expensive, but we're in the running.

We don't know just how good this group will be. Billups, Melo, Fields and Amare is pretty darned GOOD! Don't underestimate that group. They can go head up with any starting lineup in the league IMO. We still need some size and PG help, but other than that this team is really pretty good. Definitely better than we were.

Dolan and Isiah can't kill my buzz over this deal. I'll deal with that as we go along. If they allow Donnie to get back to work he can get the missing pieces. This is the kind of deal that an owner can get involved in, but he's not gonna make the small detail deals that Donnie can make. I just feel bad that Walsh had to be disrespected in this whole process. He's a grown man, he can take it.
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2/21/2011  10:52 PM
So this trade was just between the Knicks and Nuggets? Randolph and Curry are still Knicks?
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2/21/2011  10:53 PM
crzymdups wrote:
martin wrote:
Miami has 2 legit superstars who play defense and offense and another high level all-star. NY has 2 elite scorers.

Chicago has a MVP-type PG and defense and depth.

OKC has 2 elite scorers and depth, picks, and cap space.

LAL has depth, defense, MVP guy.

Yeah, they need defense inside. But Melo and Amar'e are actually both underrated defenders - at least to my eyes. I've seen both come up big in big moments. Amar'e is what third in the league in blocks right now? I've seen him save at least three games this season with blocks.

Knicks are NOT barren outside of Melo and Amare - Billups is a high level player. Fields is a high level player. Turiaf/Toney/Walker/Shawne are a solid bench - better than Miami's bench.

I agree it would have been better to wait until the summer - and I am trying not to think about the Isiah/Dolan implications and I will want to puke if Walsh leaves...

Great insight. Just boggles my mind the opposition to this trade. We are not talking about getting Marbury here..a headcase. We are talking bout Real Ballers & Competitors who pride themselves on hard work and leadership. What won me over even more is Melo's play this past month when he could have dogged it knowing he was coming to Knicks anyways. But he wanted to show people you can't be serious..I'm a beast.
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2/21/2011  10:53 PM
Swishfm3 wrote:So this trade was just between the Knicks and Nuggets? Randolph and Curry are still Knicks?

Nope. They're Timberwolves. It's in all the links we've posted.

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2/21/2011  10:53 PM
Allanfan20 wrote:
loweyecue wrote:So can we confirm and Curry/AR are still here? If so we do have some ap space to trade with or an expiring - however you look at it.

Yeah, that part just doesn't make sense. How could we be sending those two for nothing? We have to be getting something of value back.

Gallo and Mozgov, I bet, are PISSED!

ESPN didn't say anything about those two or about the Minny pick, except Minny is involved.

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2/21/2011  10:54 PM
crzymdups wrote:
Swishfm3 wrote:So this trade was just between the Knicks and Nuggets? Randolph and Curry are still Knicks?

Nope. They're Timberwolves. It's in all the links we've posted.

So WTF are we getting back or is Denver getting from Minny? What is the purpose of that?

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2/21/2011  10:54 PM    LAST EDITED: 2/21/2011  10:56 PM
http://www.nba.com/2011/news/02/21/carmelo-anthony-traded.ap/index.html?ls=iref:nbahpt1

"details to follow" (atm)

Bill Simmons on Tyreke Evans "The prototypical 0-guard: Someone who handles the ball all the time, looks for his own shot, gets to the rim at will and operates best if his teammates spread the floor to watch him."
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2/21/2011  10:54 PM
DrAlphaeus wrote:How am I feeling about this? Meh. Low.

Yes?

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2/21/2011  10:54 PM
DrAlphaeus wrote:How am I feeling about this? Meh. Low.
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2/21/2011  10:55 PM
nixluva wrote:In the end I don't care about those assets we gave up. It was the price of doing business and getting this done with a good 29 games left to try and work on some chemistry. This isn't just about this year but the next 5 years or more. We can work to find the final pieces to have a true contender. It's very expensive, but we're in the running.

We don't know just how good this group will be. Billups, Melo, Fields and Amare is pretty darned GOOD! Don't underestimate that group. They can go head up with any starting lineup in the league IMO. We still need some size and PG help, but other than that this team is really pretty good. Definitely better than we were.

Dolan and Isiah can't kill my buzz over this deal. I'll deal with that as we go along. If they allow Donnie to get back to work he can get the missing pieces. This is the kind of deal that an owner can get involved in, but he's not gonna make the small detail deals that Donnie can make. I just feel bad that Walsh had to be disrespected in this whole process. He's a grown man, he can take it.

nix, aren't you a business owner yourself? How can you make such a statement. It boggles my mind.

If you aren't business owner, might I suggest that you never go to a country where you have to bargain for anything in a market.

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2/21/2011  10:56 PM
I hate Dolan with all I have to hate a human being. I hate Isiah Thomas as much as Ive hated any sports person ever. But.. Mosgov had a few good games. Chandler and Danillo, although I like them, sometimes have 4 point scoring nights. Carmelo Anthony is an All Star Starter. I mean, come on. We gave up too much because our owner is garbage, but we still got an All Star Starter. WHO WANTS TO PLAY FOR THE KNICKS. Come on now.
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2/21/2011  10:58 PM
Anyway, I'm going to be annoyed about this trade for a few days, but then we'll see how Melo performs and how this core performs. I am happy to see that we kept Fields. I felt Fields was the most untradeable of any of the pieces. We paid an incredible premium, but I'm interested to see how this turns out. The Knicks will be exciting. I think the team as currently constructed has a ceiling of just under 50 wins. We're probably slightly better this year. The bottom line is unless got Melo at a discount in exchange for more years, we get Paul or Deron or Dwight Howard, this trade is a bust. We really went all in.
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2/21/2011  10:59 PM
I would of never traded Gallo

That being said we got MElo

The Knicks have Melo

We cant hate

I think Billups will be steal of deal in this offense

KNICKS on the way UP!!!
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2/21/2011  10:59 PM
matt wrote:
DrAlphaeus wrote:How am I feeling about this? Meh. Low.

Heh. I don't know, I'm listening to WFAN and they are telling me I'm an idiot that I'm not excited about this trade. I guess I'm an idiot. I like Billups, but maybe I just hold a grudge for Melo from the brawl.

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2/21/2011  11:00 PM
Take out Felton / Billups wash
Take out Mozgov / Williams

So what's left?

Gasllo, Ill Will, Curry, AR, 1st rounder, 2 seconds for Melo and Anthony Carter?

That sucks whatever way you look at it.

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2/21/2011  11:00 PM
martin wrote:
Andrew wrote:
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Donnie Walsh ally says of steep price paid for Melo: "This is all Dolan. All Isiah. All (Worldwide) Wes and Leon Rose..."

Makes sense:

A league source said Jim Dolan has been hellbent on getting Anthony to keep him from Russian owner Mikhail Prokhorov, whom has become a definite rival.

http://www.nypost.com/p/sports/knicks/carmelo_anthony_trade_to_knicks_2Jg35AjOFhPRSJso9BAjSN

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2/21/2011  11:01 PM
loweyecue wrote:Take out Felton / Billups wash
Take out Mozgov / Williams

So what's left?

Gasllo, Ill Will, Curry, AR, 1st rounder, 2 seconds for Melo and Anthony Carter?

That sucks whatever way you look at it.

But we're getting Balkman. Don't forget that.

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2/21/2011  11:01 PM
loweyecue wrote:
Allanfan20 wrote:
loweyecue wrote:So can we confirm and Curry/AR are still here? If so we do have some ap space to trade with or an expiring - however you look at it.

Yeah, that part just doesn't make sense. How could we be sending those two for nothing? We have to be getting something of value back.

Gallo and Mozgov, I bet, are PISSED!

ESPN didn't say anything about those two or about the Minny pick, except Minny is involved.


. Minny got Curry and AR- Denver needed Minny to absorb the cap space to save money on the cap this year and Minny had cap space. Minny didn't give up a pick but it seems they gave up Brewer to Denver.

We ended up with Melo, Billups, Shelden, Balkman and Anthony Carter. Denver got 2 NY second rounders, a 2014 NY first rounder, Gallo, Chandler, Felton and Mozgov.
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2/21/2011  11:01 PM
BasketballJones wrote:
loweyecue wrote:Take out Felton / Billups wash
Take out Mozgov / Williams

So what's left?

Gasllo, Ill Will, Curry, AR, 1st rounder, 2 seconds for Melo and Anthony Carter?

That sucks whatever way you look at it.

But we're getting Balkman. Don't forget that.

The cherry on top.

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