martin wrote:your baseline assumption is that you HAVE to have cap space to make upgrades?

No.

My baseline assumption is having cap space is one of the main three ways to make upgrades, the others being trades and draft.

In less than 17 months, two of those avenues will be closed to the Knicks, at least in terms of adding a main cog. Cap space will be closed entirely for any purpose.

I also contend in 17 months, Chandler and Gallinari's "asset" values will be compromised. They are at their peak value when on rookie contracts.

Each, in the next 17 months, will get contracts based on projection and potential rather than current production, and for them to continue to be trade assets of maximum value, their trajectory as players must continue to rise.

This could happen. I'm no pessimist. But it is uncertain and in fact, the odds against, purely objectively speaking.

In the next 17 months, the Knicks chances of building a roster to compete with the big 4 you mention will be very dependent on ALL of Gallo, Chandler, Fields and Mosgov moving in positive directions, as well as Felton showing the last 2 months isn't really him, because he has NOT been very good, if we're being honest.

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Knixkik wrote:We are getting rid of a lot, and it sucks. Adding Mozgov to the deal makes it difficult because collectively it is so much to lose. But at the end of the day, Mozgov can and should not be the deal-breaker. He has some upside, but is an projected rotation player at best. Also, Sheldon Williams inclusion in the deal will somewhat supplement it. We should wait this thing out, but cannot let Mozgov get in the way of this deal. We are still retaining Fields, who is our best prospect along with Gallo. Just the fact that we are keeping one of the two is great.

No no no no--thats a deal breaker--its not the one piece its the collective.. walkway dolan and go to FA. f ridiculous now. I was going to back the trade of what was mentioned but this tipped the boat. If someone argues that Mosgov shouldnt be a deal beaker---you havent been in business a long time.
the volume of talented young assets is way too much if we give up Mosgov--its collective not one piece.

The volume of talent does not equal Melo in any way. Let's not overrate what we have here. We have very good young player, but no superstar talents. We have 2 great young chips in Gallo and Fields, we would only be trading 1. If you shop this entire package of players around the league, you won't get a player anywhere near as good as Melo, let alone Billups too, who is a 5-time all-star and finals MVP. Sometimes you have to take chances. I'm willing to chance a superstar for a group of good role players.

You sound like an idiot. Mosgov 24 gallo 22 WC 22 Randolph 21 felton 26 pick 2014. My man you dont give up a whole team for a non 5. If it was 23 YO Shaq--i would do it--this has tipped the scales--dont be s tupid think about it.

I can't believe some of you are content being stuck as a mediocre team. What is the plan going forward? Wait for our players to develop into great role players while Stoudemire's prime fades away? It is time to take a chance and get stars. We have an opportunity to add 2 more in the next 2 years. Let's go for it. We are not letting role players get in the way. We are retaining arguable our best young player in Fields and have a mid first round pick this summer to add talent. You have to give to get. Read this article if you need a second opinion. Mozgov, Gallo, and Chandler are not the answer to winning a championship in the near future.

http://sports.espn.go.com/new-york/nba/columns/story?columnist=oconnor_ian&id=6142327

It's sad that you've been a member here since 2001, went through the Isiah Era, and still want to continue to do Isiah-esque moves.

This guy is the SF version of Zach Randolph.

Sorry but had to stop reading here. That is crazy talk.