nixluva wrote:

crzymdups wrote:

nixluva wrote:WIth MIke you really can't be so sure that he's not going to use guys. He just wants to see solid pro level ball. If you give him that then you EARN his trust and he'll get you involved. He's proven to be that way over and over again. I really wish fans that have a dislike for him could finally realize what this coach is really all about. WINNING!

He always tries to teach his players how to win. If they listen they'll be successful. It's just that simple. Nothing he tells these players to do hurts them in any way. His coaching only serves to make them better players. He gets them to understand the game on a higher level and that is what leads to winning teams. Instead of letting a kid like AR just go out and freelance, he wanted to teach him how to play the team game, so what's so wrong about that? It takes time for kids that never learned to really play the game to get it.

Maybe one day all the MDA doubters will catch on to what he's about.

i kind of agree with this, but also kind of think its BS. AR could have been helping the team all season.

sometimes as a coach you have to check your own ego and reach out to a player, not put him in the doghouse.

The evidence doesn't back you up on this claim. I just can't see how anyone can keep saying these things with no evidence support the claim. AR had done nothing and seemed to deserve to sit until he got his head right. Timo needed time to get his head right as well. Just playing in games doesn't mean you'll magically "get it". You have to truly understand what you're doing wrong in order to correct the mistakes. That's what practice is for. Games are where you execute what you already know how to do.

AR & Mozgov don't even see playing time tonight if Wilson is healthy & Williams doesn't get into that fight with Marvin Williams, so what evidence do you have to support your claim that MDA was just waiting for the right time to get AR & Mozgov involved?

nixluva wrote:

crzymdups wrote:

nixluva wrote:WIth MIke you really can't be so sure that he's not going to use guys. He just wants to see solid pro level ball. If you give him that then you EARN his trust and he'll get you involved. He's proven to be that way over and over again. I really wish fans that have a dislike for him could finally realize what this coach is really all about. WINNING!

He always tries to teach his players how to win. If they listen they'll be successful. It's just that simple. Nothing he tells these players to do hurts them in any way. His coaching only serves to make them better players. He gets them to understand the game on a higher level and that is what leads to winning teams. Instead of letting a kid like AR just go out and freelance, he wanted to teach him how to play the team game, so what's so wrong about that? It takes time for kids that never learned to really play the game to get it.

Maybe one day all the MDA doubters will catch on to what he's about.

i kind of agree with this, but also kind of think its BS. AR could have been helping the team all season.

sometimes as a coach you have to check your own ego and reach out to a player, not put him in the doghouse.

The evidence doesn't back you up on this claim. I just can't see how anyone can keep saying these things with no evidence support the claim. AR had done nothing and seemed to deserve to sit until he got his head right. Timo needed time to get his head right as well. Just playing in games doesn't mean you'll magically "get it". You have to truly understand what you're doing wrong in order to correct the mistakes. That's what practice is for. Games are where you execute what you already know how to do.

right. I don't care about what individual stats AR could've gotten. What matters is the team dynamic. And he was an obvious detriment when he got burn, and I didn't particularly care for his pouty puss face

No different this time.

needs to take that dude the hell out of there.

TMS wrote:

nixluva wrote:

crzymdups wrote:

nixluva wrote:WIth MIke you really can't be so sure that he's not going to use guys. He just wants to see solid pro level ball. If you give him that then you EARN his trust and he'll get you involved. He's proven to be that way over and over again. I really wish fans that have a dislike for him could finally realize what this coach is really all about. WINNING!

He always tries to teach his players how to win. If they listen they'll be successful. It's just that simple. Nothing he tells these players to do hurts them in any way. His coaching only serves to make them better players. He gets them to understand the game on a higher level and that is what leads to winning teams. Instead of letting a kid like AR just go out and freelance, he wanted to teach him how to play the team game, so what's so wrong about that? It takes time for kids that never learned to really play the game to get it.

Maybe one day all the MDA doubters will catch on to what he's about.

i kind of agree with this, but also kind of think its BS. AR could have been helping the team all season.

sometimes as a coach you have to check your own ego and reach out to a player, not put him in the doghouse.

The evidence doesn't back you up on this claim. I just can't see how anyone can keep saying these things with no evidence support the claim. AR had done nothing and seemed to deserve to sit until he got his head right. Timo needed time to get his head right as well. Just playing in games doesn't mean you'll magically "get it". You have to truly understand what you're doing wrong in order to correct the mistakes. That's what practice is for. Games are where you execute what you already know how to do.

AR & Mozgov don't even see playing time tonight if Wilson is healthy & Williams doesn't get into that fight with Marvin Williams, so what evidence do you have to support your claim that MDA was just waiting for the right time to get AR & Mozgov involved?

Truth is we don't know when Timo was gonna get back in, but I believe he was in the cards tonight due to Amar'e being iffy. Clearly the work that AR and Timo have been putting in seemed to pay off. It's a super small sample size, but you have to like how they approached the game. MDA started the year looking to play a 9-10 man rotation and only went away from it when it proved not to be effective. We don't know if he'd look to try and extend that if these kids prove to be effective the rest of the way. I'll tell you this, after the way they looked tonight he'll be MUCH more inclined to put either kid in there from now on.

firefly wrote:

TMS wrote:

nixluva wrote:

crzymdups wrote:

nixluva wrote:WIth MIke you really can't be so sure that he's not going to use guys. He just wants to see solid pro level ball. If you give him that then you EARN his trust and he'll get you involved. He's proven to be that way over and over again. I really wish fans that have a dislike for him could finally realize what this coach is really all about. WINNING!

He always tries to teach his players how to win. If they listen they'll be successful. It's just that simple. Nothing he tells these players to do hurts them in any way. His coaching only serves to make them better players. He gets them to understand the game on a higher level and that is what leads to winning teams. Instead of letting a kid like AR just go out and freelance, he wanted to teach him how to play the team game, so what's so wrong about that? It takes time for kids that never learned to really play the game to get it.

Maybe one day all the MDA doubters will catch on to what he's about.

i kind of agree with this, but also kind of think its BS. AR could have been helping the team all season.

sometimes as a coach you have to check your own ego and reach out to a player, not put him in the doghouse.

The evidence doesn't back you up on this claim. I just can't see how anyone can keep saying these things with no evidence support the claim. AR had done nothing and seemed to deserve to sit until he got his head right. Timo needed time to get his head right as well. Just playing in games doesn't mean you'll magically "get it". You have to truly understand what you're doing wrong in order to correct the mistakes. That's what practice is for. Games are where you execute what you already know how to do.

AR & Mozgov don't even see playing time tonight if Wilson is healthy & Williams doesn't get into that fight with Marvin Williams, so what evidence do you have to support your claim that MDA was just waiting for the right time to get AR & Mozgov involved?

I really wouldn't get too hung up about that. Pro ball is all about taking your chances, be it in practice or on the court. MDA has a tight rotation, but Shawne Williams took his chance to get ahead of AR in the rotation back when AR was playing minutes every game. Glad to see AR step up and try and wrest his place back. Shows maturity. And that's what he has been lacking so far. Baby steps.

Mozgov started the game out by missing his first 4 shots... if this were any other night, he'd have been yanked out of the game at that point & Williams or Wilson would have been back in... Mozgov was interviewed after the game & admitted being nervous to start the game but settled down & got into a rhythm... that's not uncommon for young players to experience... i contend that AR suffered from a lot of the same kind of nerves in early games trying to learn a new system & never was able to get into any sort of rhythm after he got yanked out of the rotation & put into the doghouse... now i'm not saying Mozgov was ready early in the year to play at this level, he clearly wasn't, but in AR's case we've seen him produce at a high level in many NBA games before ever getting here.

i agree w/u it's great to see AR get a chance to show what he can do, but i've seen him play MUCH better than he played tonight in prior games in Golden State... he can make a huge impact in games, i already know this... yes, he's still young & is a work in progress, but to say he's been lacking in this kind of maturity in the past is a little simplistic if u ask me... i think we need to get this kid into the rotation, both for the team's sake & for the sake of pumping up his potential trade value in case we look to deal him down the road... i think it does our team no good to have him sitting on the bench... if u get this kid regular burn i think he's gonna get more comfortable in his role & he'll start producing at a high level again like he was doing last year... if we have to go to a 10 man rotation & Walker is left as the odd man out, then so be it... i think we really need to get AR & Mozgov into the rotation now, our lack of size has been our main weakness all year.

nixluva wrote:

TMS wrote:

firefly wrote:

TMS wrote:

nixluva wrote:

crzymdups wrote:

nixluva wrote:WIth MIke you really can't be so sure that he's not going to use guys. He just wants to see solid pro level ball. If you give him that then you EARN his trust and he'll get you involved. He's proven to be that way over and over again. I really wish fans that have a dislike for him could finally realize what this coach is really all about. WINNING!

He always tries to teach his players how to win. If they listen they'll be successful. It's just that simple. Nothing he tells these players to do hurts them in any way. His coaching only serves to make them better players. He gets them to understand the game on a higher level and that is what leads to winning teams. Instead of letting a kid like AR just go out and freelance, he wanted to teach him how to play the team game, so what's so wrong about that? It takes time for kids that never learned to really play the game to get it.

Maybe one day all the MDA doubters will catch on to what he's about.

i kind of agree with this, but also kind of think its BS. AR could have been helping the team all season.

sometimes as a coach you have to check your own ego and reach out to a player, not put him in the doghouse.

The evidence doesn't back you up on this claim. I just can't see how anyone can keep saying these things with no evidence support the claim. AR had done nothing and seemed to deserve to sit until he got his head right. Timo needed time to get his head right as well. Just playing in games doesn't mean you'll magically "get it". You have to truly understand what you're doing wrong in order to correct the mistakes. That's what practice is for. Games are where you execute what you already know how to do.

AR & Mozgov don't even see playing time tonight if Wilson is healthy & Williams doesn't get into that fight with Marvin Williams, so what evidence do you have to support your claim that MDA was just waiting for the right time to get AR & Mozgov involved?

I really wouldn't get too hung up about that. Pro ball is all about taking your chances, be it in practice or on the court. MDA has a tight rotation, but Shawne Williams took his chance to get ahead of AR in the rotation back when AR was playing minutes every game. Glad to see AR step up and try and wrest his place back. Shows maturity. And that's what he has been lacking so far. Baby steps.

Mozgov started the game out by missing his first 4 shots... if this were any other night, he'd have been yanked out of the game at that point & Williams or Wilson would have been back in... Mozgov was interviewed after the game & admitted being nervous to start the game but settled down & got into a rhythm... that's not uncommon for young players to experience... i contend that AR suffered from a lot of the same kind of nerves in early games trying to learn a new system & never was able to get into any sort of rhythm after he got yanked out of the rotation & put into the doghouse... now i'm not saying Mozgov was ready early in the year to play at this level, he clearly wasn't, but in AR's case we've seen him produce at a high level in many NBA games before ever getting here.

i agree w/u it's great to see AR get a chance to show what he can do, but i've seen him play MUCH better than he played tonight in prior games in Golden State... he can make a huge impact in games, i already know this... yes, he's still young & is a work in progress, but to say he's been lacking in this kind of maturity in the past is a little simplistic if u ask me... i think we need to get this kid into the rotation, both for the team's sake & for the sake of pumping up his potential trade value in case we look to deal him down the road... i think it does our team no good to have him sitting on the bench... if u get this kid regular burn i think he's gonna get more comfortable in his role & he'll start producing at a high level again like he was doing last year... if we have to go to a 10 man rotation & Walker is left as the odd man out, then so be it... i think we really need to get AR & Mozgov into the rotation now, our lack of size has been our main weakness all year.

TMS you can believe that Mike would've had a short leash on Timo, but you don't KNOW that for sure. It appeared to me that Timo was doing the right things and I would expect that Mike would naturally expect a bit of rust or nerves to start with. You make it sound like Mike is some inexperienced guy that lacks any understanding of the situation. Mike Knows that kids like AR and Timo are gonna be a bit tight in their 1st game action in a long time. Come on man give it a break already.

The thing is that Mike is an NBA headcoach that has had success in this league and i'm quite sure he understands the dynamics of a young players mental state. AR may have produced numbers in the past, but that wasn't in a finely tuned team with a serious playoff aspiration. Lots of guys put up meaningless numbers. It's not the same as being part of a team concept that is designed to win and where you have to conform to certain expectations. AR couldn't just wing it here.

if u watched the 1st quarter u'd have seen Mozgov looked just as clueless as ever for the 1st 10 minutes of the game... missed 4 point blank layups, missed a defensive assignment badly that led to an easy made basket & committed 2 early fouls... please name me on what basis do u think MDA would have stuck by him in any other situation other than out of absolute necessity to do so tonight because he was 2 men short? it was only after his teammates continued to dish the ball off to him downlow that he finally got some easy dunks & got himself into the flow of the game... Gallo's drive & dish in particular seemed to help him gain some confidence, he had a nice bounce in his step after that made dunk... i don't buy that Timo remains in the game today if Williams or Chandler were available to play otherwise.

MOZGOV IS THE MAN, WHAT!?!? DUNK SHOT, JUMP SHOT, ALL OVER, WHAT!??!!?

WHERE ARE THE people wearing the hats here, the hats of hattering on Mozgov? TAKE YOUR HATS OFF OR KEEP THEM ON, Mozgov is here forever, for life, for the solar system!