TMS wrote:a week ago all i saw were posts like "SEE! This is what MDA basketball is all about! It was only a matter of time until our coach got our guys playing his style of basketball the way he intended! This team can win 50 games this year!"

now that we're 3-4, it's all "OMG! I hate this fekkin' team! Fire the coach! Hide yo kids! Hide yo wife!"

relax people... it's 7 games into the season... wait til we have a fair amount of games to evaluate just where this team is before you jump off the deep end in either direction.

Thank you to the voice of reason.

Mofos are ready to slit their wrists over a couple of really pathetic losses. True, the Knicks played really badly in this game. But they also got anally raped by the refs... WAY too many charging fouls and ticky-tack nonsense.

MDAs system feeds off effective guard play. Until we get some consistency from Ray and Toney, we are going to have games like this. When the P&R ain't gellin, we gotta sink shots and that didn't happen in this game. Sometimes it does (e.g., the other night we couldn't miss).

Before we trade the entire team because they suck, let's give them 30 games to build some chemistry.

It happens.

Pacers, we talking the Pacers!!!! Dunleavy had 24, Hansbrogh had 20! Crazy!

Hears some dude on the radio a few days ago hawking them for the 8th seed. I guess others see it too.

Nalod wrote:Pacers took the Nuggs a part last nite. Just killed them.

It happens.

Pacers, we talking the Pacers!!!! Dunleavy had 24, Hansbrogh had 20! Crazy!

Hears some dude on the radio a few days ago hawking them for the 8th seed. I guess others see it too.

That Pacer team is better than most think. They have all the elements to be a very good team. The fact that they have a go to type player like Granger makes them a possible playoff team. I always like Hansbrough he is good hustle player.

Moonangie wrote:David Stern should disallow that effing 3-2-1 countdown thing that the Bogut crew does in Bucks' games. It clearly screwed up Ray on a couple of occasions and is has no place in the game of hoops. It's similar to a baseball player yelling at a fielder to miss a fly ball. Not part of the game and not something the players should be forced to adapt to.

On the road you never rely on the opposing teams fans for anything. Ray needs to keep his head up and see the clock. He dribbles looking down to much.

nixluva wrote:The coach doesn't suck and the team will eventually find some balance. I actually thought the Knicks came out with the right attitude, but the Bucks just couldn't miss. That's gonna happen sometimes. They got blitzed by a desperate team tonight. It happens. I actually liked their energy and effort, but they made too many mistakes on D, in particular going for the fakes too often. On offense the Knicks took the easy way out too often taking bad jumpers. We needed to go inside and by the time they started to attack the basket it was too late. Also the PnR is still a bit shaky. I think it's getting better, but not good enough and not consistent enough. The timing by Felton is AWFUL. He seems to always be late in delivering the ball and often the pass is off line or easily picked off.

I don't want to see Mason ever again. Whatever he had it seems to be gone. I thought Rautins looked better and if not for having to guard Boykins, which isn't fair to Andy, I think he could be more useful than Mason.

Papabear Says

Nixluva what game were you watching? This team is not well coached and thats it. This all falls on the coach. They still look like they don't know what they are doing and defense?? what happened??

Vmart wrote:

Papabear wrote:

nixluva wrote:The coach doesn't suck and the team will eventually find some balance. I actually thought the Knicks came out with the right attitude, but the Bucks just couldn't miss. That's gonna happen sometimes. They got blitzed by a desperate team tonight. It happens. I actually liked their energy and effort, but they made too many mistakes on D, in particular going for the fakes too often. On offense the Knicks took the easy way out too often taking bad jumpers. We needed to go inside and by the time they started to attack the basket it was too late. Also the PnR is still a bit shaky. I think it's getting better, but not good enough and not consistent enough. The timing by Felton is AWFUL. He seems to always be late in delivering the ball and often the pass is off line or easily picked off.

I don't want to see Mason ever again. Whatever he had it seems to be gone. I thought Rautins looked better and if not for having to guard Boykins, which isn't fair to Andy, I think he could be more useful than Mason.

Papabear Says

Nixluva what game were you watching? This team is not well coached and thats it. This all falls on the coach. They still look like they don't know what they are doing and defense?? what happened??

The defense is falling apart because players now know that the Knicks are a shot block happy team, a head fake here and there you have a making of a foul which will eventually take away a lot off aggressive play on the defensive side. There is a serious lack of execution on the Knicks part. Relying on the three is not coaching so MDA should get some of the blame for what is going on with the Knicks. He has to rethink his ideology and get away from the three point happy team that he has created.

Im not sure why we have decided to take only jumpers when we were feasting in the paint earlier. Yes we took a ton of 3s also but it was much better balanced by attacking the rim.

I'm not that worried (yet). I picked the Knicks to win 45 games because I think the can play .500 or so first half of the season when I expect them to start to gell and play better ball. Most of what I see going wrong is fixable

fishmike wrote:

Vmart wrote:

Papabear wrote:

nixluva wrote:The coach doesn't suck and the team will eventually find some balance. I actually thought the Knicks came out with the right attitude, but the Bucks just couldn't miss. That's gonna happen sometimes. They got blitzed by a desperate team tonight. It happens. I actually liked their energy and effort, but they made too many mistakes on D, in particular going for the fakes too often. On offense the Knicks took the easy way out too often taking bad jumpers. We needed to go inside and by the time they started to attack the basket it was too late. Also the PnR is still a bit shaky. I think it's getting better, but not good enough and not consistent enough. The timing by Felton is AWFUL. He seems to always be late in delivering the ball and often the pass is off line or easily picked off.

I don't want to see Mason ever again. Whatever he had it seems to be gone. I thought Rautins looked better and if not for having to guard Boykins, which isn't fair to Andy, I think he could be more useful than Mason.

Papabear Says

Nixluva what game were you watching? This team is not well coached and thats it. This all falls on the coach. They still look like they don't know what they are doing and defense?? what happened??

The defense is falling apart because players now know that the Knicks are a shot block happy team, a head fake here and there you have a making of a foul which will eventually take away a lot off aggressive play on the defensive side. There is a serious lack of execution on the Knicks part. Relying on the three is not coaching so MDA should get some of the blame for what is going on with the Knicks. He has to rethink his ideology and get away from the three point happy team that he has created.

this coaching staff is entitled to make adjustments. Knicks looked pretty damn good for the first few games. Now they are poorly coached? Lets see the coaching make some adjustments.

Im not sure why we have decided to take only jumpers when we were feasting in the paint earlier. Yes we took a ton of 3s also but it was much better balanced by attacking the rim.

I'm not that worried (yet). I picked the Knicks to win 45 games because I think the can play .500 or so first half of the season when I expect them to start to gell and play better ball. Most of what I see going wrong is fixable

I'm with you Fish. It seems that people are too quick to jump all over the Coach after the team looks bad, but as you say there is constant adjusting going on. Teams watch film and try to take away what you do or exploit a strength like our shotblocking. Now we have to adjust by looking to pass more and stop holding the ball and forcing bad jumpers or wild drives that lead to a charge. On D our guys have to stay on their feet and stop jumping at every fake. Overall the effort is there, but the team isn't playing smart! It's not like we're being outclassed. We lose mostly due to our own mistakes. Two losses at home when we had a lead in the 4th is us killing ourselves. They can fix these problems.

We watch this game from a completely different set of focals looking at some of these replies. Funny how things remained the same