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Nyballa561
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7/14/2010  6:58 PM
Man, I wish they would play Jerome Jordan some more. So far he started and played about 5 minutes, and hasnt played since. I like his activity around the paint, but man his offensive game is so raw....
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7/14/2010  7:02 PM
Oh you get 10 fouls. Walker still better be careful.
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7/14/2010  7:06 PM
nyk4ever wrote:i gotta say, i am really liking what im seeing from landry fields. i think the biggest thing he's going to benefit from is the fact that he has an nba body, very good frame and he has the quickness to get by guys off the dribble and you can tell why he was a stanford guy - he's very smart out on the court, doesn't make many mistakes. i admittedly was not happy at all with drafting him because i had never heard of him and i watch a ton of college basketball but at this point, i don't know how this guy flew under the radar of so many. he definitely looks like he can step right into the rotation.

Hopefully you learned that just because you haven't heard of a guy doesn't mean he stinks.

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7/14/2010  7:08 PM
Fields is okay. He gets after it. Not sure what else he can do besides drive to the hoop - something he won't be doing in a real NBA game.

Jordan is absolutely terrible.

Rottens (lol, thanks Crispino) really is Rotten.

Of the three you keep Fields and dump the others.


PEW,JR should be getting minutes. He had one showing and that was it. That's not fair. Playing random SL bums over him is an insult. Give the kid some play.

Walker seems out of sorts.

Douglas seems okay but lacking playing the point.


Other than that...it's SL... this is probably the only SL game I will watch.

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7/14/2010  7:13 PM
Play mah Boy!


Pat looks like he wants to walk down to the court and shove Dan D'Antoni into a garbage pail.

I would too....

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7/14/2010  7:21 PM
Bippity10 wrote:
nyk4ever wrote:i gotta say, i am really liking what im seeing from landry fields. i think the biggest thing he's going to benefit from is the fact that he has an nba body, very good frame and he has the quickness to get by guys off the dribble and you can tell why he was a stanford guy - he's very smart out on the court, doesn't make many mistakes. i admittedly was not happy at all with drafting him because i had never heard of him and i watch a ton of college basketball but at this point, i don't know how this guy flew under the radar of so many. he definitely looks like he can step right into the rotation.

Hopefully you learned that just because you haven't heard of a guy doesn't mean he stinks.

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7/14/2010  7:40 PM
I do like Rautins' court vision, shooting and anticipation on defense, but he doesn't have any NBA moves on offense unless he's set up for it.
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7/14/2010  7:40 PM
No Charles Garcia? I hope it is for a legit reason like injury. I wouldn't want this guy to catch on to another team without showing what he could do with the Knicks.
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7/14/2010  7:54 PM
Complete and utter mismatch of talent. Toronto got the better 7 footer in the 2nd round as well.

We couldve had Derozan quite easily--wow back to back Derozan Jennings lol

Fields does some decent things but I squirm when he shoots which isnt good either.

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7/14/2010  8:00 PM
Deozan and Weems were by far the most explosive athletes out there. I dont care what some one vertical was measured at--just watch the eye test. Those guys get way up there.
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7/14/2010  9:06 PM
Derozan and Weems are very impressive athletes. No doubt about it.


Our kids today: Walker was unimpressive. Douglas was okay but didn't seem to put much effort into it except for one stretch. Jordan is GARBAGE. Rottens is NOTHING to look at ... Our own Carroll and that guy on Toronto (forgot his name, four letter last name) were superior to him. Fields however showed something out there. I would say keep fields and dump the other two.

When it comes down to it...Marcus Landry and Pat Ewing JR have more to offer than Jordan/Rottens.

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7/14/2010  9:26 PM
Patience is a virtue, especially with young big men. Send Jordan to the D-League before giving up on him in a messy summer league game. And wait for organised ball to evaluate Rautins because you always need a player with his range and defensive effort in your bench.

People keep saying you build through the draft, yet want the player gone after a bad showing on a meaningless, unorganized summer league.

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7/14/2010  9:33 PM
Eh, I think the "big men take time to develop" and "he's still young he's just ____ years old" are cliches that never really apply in the long run.

As to building through the draft - you don't build through late 2nd round picks that nearly everyone seems to think would have gone undrafted to begin with.

These guys are nobodies.

It's not really of any consequence though.

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7/14/2010  9:34 PM
Cosmic wrote:Derozan and Weems are very impressive athletes. No doubt about it.


Our kids today: Walker was unimpressive. Douglas was okay but didn't seem to put much effort into it except for one stretch. Jordan is GARBAGE. Rottens is NOTHING to look at ... Our own Carroll and that guy on Toronto (forgot his name, four letter last name) were superior to him. Fields however showed something out there. I would say keep fields and dump the other two.

When it comes down to it...Marcus Landry and Pat Ewing JR have more to offer than Jordan/Rottens.

Douglas had an ice bag on 2 days ago and was not able to finish the game. don't think he was 100%
But for Fields and Douglas I saw little evidence of anything that might see the floor in the NBA this year. Hopefully wehn we add the vets we can get some inside game ;) I ain't seein' it here.

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7/14/2010  9:34 PM
Landry Fields could end up like Donny Marshall or he can end up like Trevor Ariza. He has the physical tools but he definitely needs to improve his handle and J.Anything past three dribbles for him starts to get a bit shaky. As for Rautins, I really like the kid's hustle and his passing and I'm sure he'll shoot better. At the same time, there were a slew of better players out there (Matt Bouldin comes to mind) who can do the same things at better level. I'd rather take a chance on patrick ewing Jr. or Marcus Landry than keep Rautins to tell you the truth.
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7/14/2010  9:48 PM
Knicksfan wrote:Patience is a virtue, especially with young big men. Send Jordan to the D-League before giving up on him in a messy summer league game. And wait for organised ball to evaluate Rautins because you always need a player with his range and defensive effort in your bench.

People keep saying you build through the draft, yet want the player gone after a bad showing on a meaningless, unorganized summer league.

I don't believe it in that. I think that good players show something and if you look back you will find that for the most part it is true. What skills has Rautins showed out there that would give you even a small hope that he could play a role in the NBA. The only way he plays a role is if whoever picked him on the Knicks has serious clout and ego. Otherwise he is just a second round pick that could not cut it. Many of those in NBA history right? I don't think teams build from the mid second round back Knicksfan:)

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7/14/2010  9:57 PM
BRIGGS wrote:
Knicksfan wrote:Patience is a virtue, especially with young big men. Send Jordan to the D-League before giving up on him in a messy summer league game. And wait for organised ball to evaluate Rautins because you always need a player with his range and defensive effort in your bench.

People keep saying you build through the draft, yet want the player gone after a bad showing on a meaningless, unorganized summer league.

I don't believe it in that. I think that good players show something and if you look back you will find that for the most part it is true. What skills has Rautins showed out there that would give you even a small hope that he could play a role in the NBA. The only way he plays a role is if whoever picked him on the Knicks has serious clout and ego. Otherwise he is just a second round pick that could not cut it. Many of those in NBA history right? I don't think teams build from the mid second round back Knicksfan:)

I have to agree with this. As a 2nd round pick there are no guarantee salaries so there is no well we can wait to develop him on the roster. At this point if he was having a phenomenal SL then you have to say ok let's take this to training camp. Anthony Roberson should be the most recent example of not letting what a player does in practice or workouts be a huge factor. We aren't talking about a one year guy either that we can talk about upside.

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7/14/2010  10:08 PM
Pharzeone wrote:
BRIGGS wrote:
Knicksfan wrote:Patience is a virtue, especially with young big men. Send Jordan to the D-League before giving up on him in a messy summer league game. And wait for organised ball to evaluate Rautins because you always need a player with his range and defensive effort in your bench.

People keep saying you build through the draft, yet want the player gone after a bad showing on a meaningless, unorganized summer league.

I don't believe it in that. I think that good players show something and if you look back you will find that for the most part it is true. What skills has Rautins showed out there that would give you even a small hope that he could play a role in the NBA. The only way he plays a role is if whoever picked him on the Knicks has serious clout and ego. Otherwise he is just a second round pick that could not cut it. Many of those in NBA history right? I don't think teams build from the mid second round back Knicksfan:)

I have to agree with this. As a 2nd round pick there are no guarantee salaries so there is no well we can wait to develop him on the roster. At this point if he was having a phenomenal SL then you have to say ok let's take this to training camp. Anthony Roberson should be the most recent example of not letting what a player does in practice or workouts be a huge factor. We aren't talking about a one year guy either that we can talk about upside.

I just see Europe in this kid--anyone really think he is going to be better when the athletes get even bigger and faster? I think Phaze has a great point--where is the upside to justify keeping him. Hes a shooter who doe snot have a great shot and seems physically over-matched. Prove--check the footprint on his face that knocked him out of the game--it looked like it read DD on his chin. I remember some poster who was boasting about the pick saying he was personally picked for the MDA system--cool but you go for talent first and if he is standing after the draft(and he wouldve been) then you take a look) Does Lance Stephenson at 6-5 225 have more talent and upside than rautins--well thats a dumb question---so we broke off what you do in the 2nd round and did not go for the higher level talent. We look pretty silly with Stephenson rocking out and Derozan and jennings looking like stars a coming. Sometimes we haev had problems with the pick before us--thats acceptable but when they are after then you have problems

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7/14/2010  10:28 PM
Scottie Reynolds has played like a guy who will be an NBA player for Pheonix. How badly could we use him right now--we need a third PG. Dump Rautins and sign Reynolds for 400k and 2 team option years.
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7/14/2010  10:33 PM
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