martin wrote:

playa2 wrote:

kam77 wrote:I just have to laugh at those defending Larry Hughes. This is how it's done people:

Calderon has been out with a sore hip for all but seven minutes of Toronto's last 13 games and the team has posted an impressive 8-5 record in his absence.

"I'm not going to disrupt the unit that we have right now," coach Jay Triano said of Calderon returning.

The veteran agreed completely with his coach.

"It's Jay's call. I'm ready to help the team, and keep winning games," said Calderon on Tuesday. "If I've got to be coming from the bench the first two, three, four, five games, or whatever, it's Jay's call. He's the coach."

Hughes is playing for a contract, calderon isn't why should he rock the boat.. You guys never side with the players business point of view.

did you mean to imply that MDA should play someone because of contract and not performance?

What I said was Hughes has a reason to request why he's not in the rotation, he's in his contract yr and needs to make an impression for a team for next yr. Nobody sides with a player in his contract yr. He's played many players when their performance hasn't been at it's best and you among many cried that they be benched, but danphoney continued to play them.

http://www.nypost.com/p/sports/knicks/antoni_denies_communication_breakdown_D9VE1GkAadzrz1Fi99KYAI

Having said what he said on Sunday, Hughes said yesterday he isn't going to approach D'Antoni to discuss his role. The guard said he did that in October when he didn't play in the Knicks' first two games.

Said Hughes, "I'm just going to leave it as, continue to come in every day and just work and show up to work and be prepared to play."

everyone is entitled to vent every once in a while... these guys aren't robots... even MDA is apt to vent every now & then to the press when guys aren't playing the way he wants them to play... i bet the players don't like being called out by their coaches any more than the coaches do by their players, but these guys are grown men & they understand it can't all be peaches & roses all the time over the course of a season... every player & coach wants to win & they all have egos that are gonna clash from time to time... after the way Larry Hughes conducted himself as a professional earlier in the season when he was out of the rotation & the way he responded when they put him back in, it had to be frustrating for him to find himself back on the outside looking in after their recent stretch of success that he played a big part in.

martin wrote:

playa2 wrote:

martin wrote:

playa2 wrote:

kam77 wrote:I just have to laugh at those defending Larry Hughes. This is how it's done people:

Calderon has been out with a sore hip for all but seven minutes of Toronto's last 13 games and the team has posted an impressive 8-5 record in his absence.

"I'm not going to disrupt the unit that we have right now," coach Jay Triano said of Calderon returning.

The veteran agreed completely with his coach.

"It's Jay's call. I'm ready to help the team, and keep winning games," said Calderon on Tuesday. "If I've got to be coming from the bench the first two, three, four, five games, or whatever, it's Jay's call. He's the coach."

Hughes is playing for a contract, calderon isn't why should he rock the boat.. You guys never side with the players business point of view.

did you mean to imply that MDA should play someone because of contract and not performance?

What I said was Hughes has a reason to request why he's not in the rotation, he's in his contract yr and needs to make an impression for a team for next yr. Nobody sides with a player in his contract yr. He's played many players when their performance hasn't been at it's best and you among many cried that they be benched, but danphoney continued to play them.

so what you mean to say is that Hughes should talk to the media before talking to the coach?

No at all. What I am saying is danphoney should talk to HIS players about their performance before the media does.

This is a trend with him. 4 different teams. Same poop. I wonder if he has ever thought this is a me problem.

Nalod wrote:Its mind games when you have a small mind but a large contract!

Isn't there like 6 assistant coaches milling about?

When you have a problem, you go to the root(head coach), never a branch(assistant coach) go to the source of your minutes.

joec32033 wrote:This happened to Larry in Philly, Cleveland, Chicago, and NY. He also said Skiles didn't talk to him in Chicago.

This is a trend with him. 4 different teams. Same poop. I wonder if he has ever thought this is a me problem.

So are you saying Dantoni hasn't had communication problems with players where ever he's been, even with upper manangemnt while in Phoenix.

nyk4ever wrote:

playa2 wrote:

joec32033 wrote:This happened to Larry in Philly, Cleveland, Chicago, and NY. He also said Skiles didn't talk to him in Chicago.

This is a trend with him. 4 different teams. Same poop. I wonder if he has ever thought this is a me problem.

So are you saying Dantoni hasn't had communication problems with players where ever he's been, even with upper manangemnt while in Phoenix.

so you're saying hughes hasn't had communication problems with coaches where ever he's been, even with chicago, cleveland and philly.

Actually I am just conveying facts. But if you want to call me in it I am gonna side with the coach who has a .650 winning percentage with his last team having communication problems with role players more than I am gonna side with a role player who has never been on a team with a winning season and forced his way off of any team that had the potential to do so over PT.

nyk4ever wrote:

joec32033 wrote:

nyk4ever wrote:

playa2 wrote:

joec32033 wrote:This happened to Larry in Philly, Cleveland, Chicago, and NY. He also said Skiles didn't talk to him in Chicago.

This is a trend with him. 4 different teams. Same poop. I wonder if he has ever thought this is a me problem.

So are you saying Dantoni hasn't had communication problems with players where ever he's been, even with upper manangemnt while in Phoenix.

so you're saying hughes hasn't had communication problems with coaches where ever he's been, even with chicago, cleveland and philly.

Actually I am just conveying facts. But if you want to call me in it I am gonna side with the coach who has a .650 winning percentage with his last team having communication problems with role players more than I am gonna side with a role player who has never been on a team with a winning season and forced his way off of any team that had the potential to do so over PT.

joe i was responding to playa which is i quoted him and not you. i absolutely agree with you.

fishmike wrote:

playa2 wrote:

Nalod wrote:Its mind games when you have a small mind but a large contract!

Isn't there like 6 assistant coaches milling about?

When you have a problem, you go to the root(head coach), never a branch(assistant coach) go to the source of your minutes.

maybe he was too busy trying to find film on the last time Larry hit a shot.

Hughes... 3-10, 3-10 (misses 3 games), 2-6, 0-3, 1-6, 0-4, 0-3. Wow thats 9-42 in the last 6 games he played. And your harping about "Danphony's" lack of communication. How you pick your battles dude is beyond me. Almost as annoying as TMS calling JJ 'fishlips'

i think lack of communication w/your players is a problem whether you wanna acknowledge it or not... reportedly he had a similar problem in Phoenix as well... yeah, he's been a successful coach, but so was Tom Coughlin before he changed his ways & then he became a SB champion head coach... there's always room for improvement no matter how good of a coach you are... learning how to deal with egos & strong personalities goes a long way towards breeding good will in the lockerroom... especially with players like Fishlips.

playa2 wrote:

martin wrote:

playa2 wrote:

martin wrote:

playa2 wrote:

kam77 wrote:I just have to laugh at those defending Larry Hughes. This is how it's done people:

Calderon has been out with a sore hip for all but seven minutes of Toronto's last 13 games and the team has posted an impressive 8-5 record in his absence.

"I'm not going to disrupt the unit that we have right now," coach Jay Triano said of Calderon returning.

The veteran agreed completely with his coach.

"It's Jay's call. I'm ready to help the team, and keep winning games," said Calderon on Tuesday. "If I've got to be coming from the bench the first two, three, four, five games, or whatever, it's Jay's call. He's the coach."

Hughes is playing for a contract, calderon isn't why should he rock the boat.. You guys never side with the players business point of view.

did you mean to imply that MDA should play someone because of contract and not performance?

What I said was Hughes has a reason to request why he's not in the rotation, he's in his contract yr and needs to make an impression for a team for next yr. Nobody sides with a player in his contract yr. He's played many players when their performance hasn't been at it's best and you among many cried that they be benched, but danphoney continued to play them.

so what you mean to say is that Hughes should talk to the media before talking to the coach?

No at all. What I am saying is danphoney should talk to HIS players about their performance before the media does.

Anyone in a contract year that has been benched is not going to like it. Can we stop making a mountain out of his comments about coach not communicating things to him? What makes you think he never talks to his players? Are you going based on what two benched players have said? The fact that his players in PHX loved palying for him is somehow less evidence than the incessant whining from two immature divas? Why?