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nixluva
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12/3/2009  9:50 PM
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nixluva wrote:I'm still trying to figure out what Playa has against Gallo? The guy is getting better and better as the year is moving along. Gallo hasn't even come close to reaching his ceiling. You say 3pt specialist, but at what point did Kapono or any of the other 3pt specialists ever show a well rounded game? Gallo in fact has a well rounded game. He wasn't supposed to be a good defender at all and it turns out he's much better than anyone thought.

SO far you've keyed in on his offensive attack, but left out all his other skills. We got a player with Skills, Size, Heart and a high BB IQ. What's not to like?

Nixluva, did you see any of his defensive skills in the video's that we all were privy to before the draft ? We took him for his offense period. I don't hate the kid , he's a gamer but I just didn't like him that high in the draft. Some of you are making me feel as if he was NYC bred and born how you rave about the kid and he's a can't do no wrong 2nd yr guy. If you love him and his game that's cool man, he would be a good six man on a good team, I wouldn't build a team around him. He's a good piece though. I just wanted a floor leader or a lead guard 1st and then a guy to man the middle and go from there.

Aside from centers no one is drafted in the lottery for their defensive skills. You get that as a plus and in Gallo's case it's a plus cuz many said he was too slow and stiff to play D and they were wrong!

What floor leader are you referring to that we passed up for Gallo?

Why insult Gallo by saying he'd be a good sixth man on a good team? He's a kid coming off an injury shortened rookie season! He hasn't even gotten started yet! Can we see what he does after at least 82 NBA games. This isn't his 5th year where you can say OK this is who he is gonna be. Besides what are you using to make that determination? So far nothing he's done would be an indicator that what you say is accurate. If anything he's showing signs of being much more than that. He's done nothing but get better and better.

Dirk's 1st 47 games, 8.2 ppg, 20.4 mpg, 40% fg, 20% 3pt, 77% ft, 3.4 rpg, 1.0 apg, 0.6 spg, 0.6 bpg

Gallo's 1st 47 games, 9.4 ppg, 20.8 mpg, 44% fg, 44% 3pt, 87% ft, 3.1 rpg, 0.9 apg, 0.6 spg, 0.4 bpg

AUTOADVERT
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12/3/2009  9:55 PM
playa2 wrote:I notice you didn't comment on the Boston game video not active late in the game after 6 min mark, or the stat line right below it.

I understand as long as he knocks down 3 balls and gets a few hustle reb and blks many will justify that being a top 6 pick in the NBA draft. Ryan Anderson might not be as accurate , but he can consistently knock down 3 balls and was picked I believe 17-18 in the draft (oh he was from Cali).

If he was picked later, I would have like the pick, but he wasn't. I want a guy who's chosen that high in the draft on a piss poor team to be a game changer not just a specialist.

Don't take it personal evil, I would take a gritty athletic (euro)Ginobli and day of the week don't get it twisted man.

I started another thread on players picked 6. Teams almost never get a game changer. Not saying they are never available at that position often times they are. But by the 6th pick the "sure things" are gone. If you could draft with hind-sight you'll sometimes get a game changer. But by that point there's enough uncertainty that even if the game changer is available - the chance are against you picking him. And it ain't just the Knicks - take a look at the draft history. I think the Jury is out on Gallo but I like his potential and think he has a chance of being a very good pick at 6.

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12/3/2009  10:26 PM
Outstanding Research nixluva

Dirk's 1st 47 games, 8.2 ppg, 20.4 mpg, 40% fg, 20% 3pt, 77% ft, 3.4 rpg, 1.0 apg, 0.6 spg, 0.6 bpg

Gallo's 1st 47 games, 9.4 ppg, 20.8 mpg, 44% fg, 44% 3pt, 87% ft, 3.1 rpg, 0.9 apg, 0.6 spg, 0.4 bpg

I'm widit

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12/3/2009  10:30 PM
playa? more like playahata.
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12/3/2009  10:51 PM
Like I've always said, some people look for reasons to be upset
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12/3/2009  11:06 PM
misterearl wrote:Outstanding Research nixluva

Dirk's 1st 47 games, 8.2 ppg, 20.4 mpg, 40% fg, 20% 3pt, 77% ft, 3.4 rpg, 1.0 apg, 0.6 spg, 0.6 bpg

Gallo's 1st 47 games, 9.4 ppg, 20.8 mpg, 44% fg, 44% 3pt, 87% ft, 3.1 rpg, 0.9 apg, 0.6 spg, 0.4 bpg

I'm widit

Now, go find me a center and a leadership guard!

Playa would've been calling for the head of the GM that drafted Dirk! Sometimes you have to use a bit of patience when it comes to these things. You have a foreign kid, coming over here and having to go thru the usual rookie adjustments, but also the culture shock and then an injury that ended up needing surgery. YET, he has been playing well despite all that. Also add the fact that he doesn't have a bunch of vets that know how to win on the team that can guide him. He's basically on his own in that regard.

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12/3/2009  11:09 PM
actually isn't it kind of uncanny just how close all of gallo's and dirk's stats are?????
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12/4/2009  11:58 AM
nixluva wrote:

Dirk's 1st 47 games, 8.2 ppg, 20.4 mpg, 40% fg, 20% 3pt, 77% ft, 3.4 rpg, 1.0 apg, 0.6 spg, 0.6 bpg

Gallo's 1st 47 games, 9.4 ppg, 20.8 mpg, 44% fg, 44% 3pt, 87% ft, 3.1 rpg, 0.9 apg, 0.6 spg, 0.4 bpg


BUST!!!!

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12/4/2009  11:59 AM
Marv wrote:actually isn't it kind of uncanny just how close all of gallo's and dirk's stats are?????

All except the 3pt %, which isn't even close.

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12/4/2009  12:34 PM
markvmc wrote:
Marv wrote:actually isn't it kind of uncanny just how close all of gallo's and dirk's stats are?????

All except the 3pt %, which isn't even close.

no doubt about it, the kid's got a ton of talent & upside... now it's just up to him (& his body) to stay healthy & keep working hard if he wants to get up to Dirk's level, which is still a long ways away... at 21 years old & already shooting the lights out, there's no telling how good Gallo can be.

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12/4/2009  12:40 PM
kam77 wrote:There are some grumpy old men on this board.

humbug.

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12/4/2009  12:51 PM
eViL wrote:

this is a great highlight video bro... it shows Gallo's a lot more than just a spot up shooter... kid is playing some real solid D in this clip, he's fighting for rebounds, finding the open teammate on passes, & even lays down a little stutter fake step back & knocks down a J in his defender's face... also hitting some huge shots in crunchtime, so we know he's got the ability to be a big shot maker as well.

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12/4/2009  12:58 PM
any one with newsday access see what Dirk had to say about Gallo's game?
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12/4/2009  1:47 PM
What is the debate about Gallo anyway? Hasn't he already proved that he can play, whether he's a jumpshooter or not?
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12/4/2009  3:50 PM
Ok let's just say he can do no wrong as a knick, he's actually a bargin and better than a 6th pick overall and he's a do everything type of guy, not just one dimesional.

Let's all homogenize when it comes to gallup. He's our new bright hope for the future. Gallup is a two-way player that stays on the perimitter on offense and guards the least talented guy on oppossing teams when possible.

You guys win

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12/4/2009  4:35 PM
I don't care about his game I want another episode of Dining with Danilo. The last installment did not resolve the question of what specific stories Danilo's dad has about Mike D'Antoni! It sounded like these stories were pretty sordid. Might blackmail be in play? Also, you can't leave the romantic tension simmering between Tina Cervasio and Danilo's silent Italian friend! C'mon MSG, you start a soap opera, you finish it!
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12/4/2009  4:36 PM
playa2 wrote:Ok let's just say he can do no wrong as a knick, he's actually a bargin and better than a 6th pick overall and he's a do everything type of guy, not just one dimesional.

Let's all homogenize when it comes to gallup. He's our new bright hope for the future. Gallup is a two-way player that stays on the perimitter on offense and guards the least talented guy on oppossing teams when possible.

You guys win


You're taking this the wrong way. We are simply saying that you're take on him is too harsh and too hasty. He's just getting started and he's already doing things that show signs of a great player, but he's got a long way to go. The idea is that he's got the skills to be great. Whether he does or not is yet to be determined. What he's shown so far is that he's got the goods and as he recovers, grows, gets stronger I see him only getting better.

Some say he's just another Peja, but when did you ever see Peja cross someone up like Gallo can? Gallo actually blocks shots and with a bit more aggression he might avg 1.5 blocks a game. He does a good job of recognizing what is happening on the floor and that makes him a decent help defender. He's just getting going, but he's showing the signs man and that's all you can ask for 47 games into his NBA career.

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12/4/2009  4:45 PM
I don't know what type of player Gallo will become. He may be an all-star or he may level out and just turn inot a guy that shoots jumpers. As Nix said, the jury is still out on this guy. But......2 games ago the guy puts up 27 points, 10 rebounds, 2 assists and 2 blocks in 36 minutes against the team with the league's best record(at the time). No guarantees he ever does that again, but you have to be somewhat excited with the potential. If you aren't, and you are complaining about his game instead then you probably are one of those people that just like to upset yourself for no reason.

He's not perfect. He has flaws. Right now his game is built around shooting 3's. But the potential is clearly there. It is not set in stone that anyone picked after him is guaranteed to have a better career.

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12/4/2009  5:15 PM
Bippity10 wrote:I don't know what type of player Gallo will become. He may be an all-star or he may level out and just turn inot a guy that shoots jumpers. As Nix said, the jury is still out on this guy. But......2 games ago the guy puts up 27 points, 10 rebounds, 2 assists and 2 blocks in 36 minutes against the team with the league's best record(at the time). No guarantees he ever does that again, but you have to be somewhat excited with the potential. If you aren't, and you are complaining about his game instead then you probably are one of those people that just like to upset yourself for no reason.

He's not perfect. He has flaws. Right now his game is built around shooting 3's. But the potential is clearly there. It is not set in stone that anyone picked after him is guaranteed to have a better career.

Yeah I can't think of too many guys that you can read just 47 games into their career! It seems impossible to me. That goes for Jennings too. I've seen a LOT of basketball in my lifetime and i've seen guys flash like a supernova and seem like they were gonna be all time greats, only to fizzle out and not reach those heights.

I've also seen guys get progressively better and better and exceed predictions on what they'd be. Billups was a good talent coming out of college but no one saw what he eventually became. Nash was always a very good player, but then he just exploded later in his career and hasn't looked back. Granger has made a steady progression and I think he's even better than predicted coming out of college.

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12/4/2009  5:22 PM
playa2 wrote:Ok let's just say he can do no wrong as a knick, he's actually a bargin and better than a 6th pick overall and he's a do everything type of guy, not just one dimesional.

Let's all homogenize when it comes to gallup. He's our new bright hope for the future. Gallup is a two-way player that stays on the perimitter on offense and guards the least talented guy on oppossing teams when possible.

You guys win

how is that any different than the lengths you're going to homogenize guys like Eric Gordon & Brook Lopez? don't u think those players have flaws in their games as well? Gallo's a better shooter than either 1 of those guys will ever be... Lopez is a better rebounder & shotblocker than the other 2 will ever be... Gordon's a more mobile guy than the other 2 will ever be... each of these guys are excellent young talents in their own right, doesn't mean any 1 of them is better than the other... they all have their strengths & they all have their weaknesses... i don't hear anyone here saying Gallo's a perfect prospect who can do no wrong... pointing out stuff he does better than the naysayers like u are saying he can do is not the same thing as saying he's awesome at doing everything.

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