Posted by islesfan:

Chandler is going to make a real nice role player one day.

I hope it is as correct as Islanders will win Stanley Cup soon...

when someone shoots 48 from the 2 and 29 from the three go to the hole. I would rather have DJ mom playing the three than Quentin. We need to find some pure shooters and a defender.

Posted by islesfan:

Chandler is going to make a real nice role player one day.

I thought so too but i think his play has convinced me his upside is at best an all star, at worst a solid starter and 3rd option on a good team. None too shabby.

"Wilson Chandler can shoot it, can handle it, can pass it," said Chris Duhon. "He rebounds, knows the game, should get better and better."

"Wil's been ice the last few games," said coach Mike D'Antoni...

"I don't think he realized he was finishing on Garnett and (Kendrick) Perkins," laughed David Lee...

"Always one of the last guys to leave the gym," said Al Harrington. "Anybody who works that hard with that kind of talent is scary. Time will tell how good he is going to be."

"I just keep going, trying to be aggressive," Chandler said. "I've been struggling shooting jumpers, am trying to get some rim."

Posted by Pharzeone:

Posted by technomaster:

Chandler already is a really nice role player... and imho a legit starter on most teams. Nice job of scouting by Isiah Thomas. :)

That's just Isles trying to troll IMO or not knowing much about NBA rosters. It looks foolish because he is scoring 14.8 ppg with 5.8 rpg. Role players get you 5 ppg and 5 rpg if you are lucky enough.

14.8 ppg with 5.8 rpg can still be role player numbers. depends on how much time a guy's getting, what else he provides on the floor, what kind of team he's on, etc.

Posted by Marv:

Posted by Pharzeone:

Posted by technomaster:

Chandler already is a really nice role player... and imho a legit starter on most teams. Nice job of scouting by Isiah Thomas. :)

That's just Isles trying to troll IMO or not knowing much about NBA rosters. It looks foolish because he is scoring 14.8 ppg with 5.8 rpg. Role players get you 5 ppg and 5 rpg if you are lucky enough.

14.8 ppg with 5.8 rpg can still be role player numbers. depends on how much time a guy's getting, what else he provides on the floor, what kind of team he's on, etc.

Those are role player numbers. Go find a player who averages those numbers at age 21 and define them as a role player. I'm waiting.

Posted by Pharzeone:

Posted by Marv:

Posted by Pharzeone:

Posted by technomaster:

Chandler already is a really nice role player... and imho a legit starter on most teams. Nice job of scouting by Isiah Thomas. :)

That's just Isles trying to troll IMO or not knowing much about NBA rosters. It looks foolish because he is scoring 14.8 ppg with 5.8 rpg. Role players get you 5 ppg and 5 rpg if you are lucky enough.

14.8 ppg with 5.8 rpg can still be role player numbers. depends on how much time a guy's getting, what else he provides on the floor, what kind of team he's on, etc.

Those are role player numbers. Go find a player who averages those numbers at age 21 and define them as a role player. I'm waiting.

right now nate rob and randy foye are averaging more than that and i'd call them role players. though older, mehmut okur, marquis daniels and nene are averaging more than that and i'd call them role players.

Posted by Marv:

Posted by Pharzeone:

Posted by Marv:

Posted by Pharzeone:

Posted by technomaster:

Chandler already is a really nice role player... and imho a legit starter on most teams. Nice job of scouting by Isiah Thomas. :)

That's just Isles trying to troll IMO or not knowing much about NBA rosters. It looks foolish because he is scoring 14.8 ppg with 5.8 rpg. Role players get you 5 ppg and 5 rpg if you are lucky enough.

14.8 ppg with 5.8 rpg can still be role player numbers. depends on how much time a guy's getting, what else he provides on the floor, what kind of team he's on, etc.

Those are role player numbers. Go find a player who averages those numbers at age 21 and define them as a role player. I'm waiting.

right now nate rob and randy foye are averaging more than that and i'd call them role players. though older, mehmut okur, marquis daniels and nene are averaging more than that and i'd call them role players.

Robinson is not a role player, neither is Foye. I think that is the misconception right there. Both are considered sixth man off the bench. A role player is a player who is asked to do a specific thing without doing everything. I will give you both past and current examples of role players. For example, Phil Jackson and Kurt Rambis were role players who were asked to come and defend. You expect them to come and defend. That was their specialities. Hell you would be happy if they could sink baskets, it would be considered icing but they were suppose to put a body on somebody. Another example of a role player is a guy who can give you offense could be with slashing or outside shooting. For example, Caroll and Kapono are role players who is asked to do one good thing, shoot 3 pointers. Once a coach ask a player to do more than one role they by definition cannot be considered a role player anymore and once they give them significant minutes that only boosts those facts. Just cause a fan in his or her own mind may think of a certain player as a role player doesn't mean that is in case actual facts.
So let's sum this up:
1. Significant minutes
2. More than one role asked of a player
equal not a role player.

Posted by Pharzeone:

Posted by Marv:

Posted by Pharzeone:

Posted by Marv:

Posted by Pharzeone:

Posted by technomaster:

Chandler already is a really nice role player... and imho a legit starter on most teams. Nice job of scouting by Isiah Thomas. :)

That's just Isles trying to troll IMO or not knowing much about NBA rosters. It looks foolish because he is scoring 14.8 ppg with 5.8 rpg. Role players get you 5 ppg and 5 rpg if you are lucky enough.

14.8 ppg with 5.8 rpg can still be role player numbers. depends on how much time a guy's getting, what else he provides on the floor, what kind of team he's on, etc.

Those are role player numbers. Go find a player who averages those numbers at age 21 and define them as a role player. I'm waiting.

right now nate rob and randy foye are averaging more than that and i'd call them role players. though older, mehmut okur, marquis daniels and nene are averaging more than that and i'd call them role players.

Robinson is not a role player, neither is Foye. I think that is the misconception right there. Both are considered sixth man off the bench. A role player is a player who is asked to do a specific thing without doing everything. I will give you both past and current examples of role players. For example, Phil Jackson and Kurt Rambis were role players who were asked to come and defend. You expect them to come and defend. That was their specialities. Hell you would be happy if they could sink baskets, it would be considered icing but they were suppose to put a body on somebody. Another example of a role player is a guy who can give you offense could be with slashing or outside shooting. For example, Caroll and Kapono are role players who is asked to do one good thing, shoot 3 pointers. Once a coach ask a player to do more than one role they by definition cannot be considered a role player anymore and once they give them significant minutes that only boosts those facts. Just cause a fan in his or her own mind may think of a certain player as a role player doesn't mean that is in case actual facts.
So let's sum this up:
1. Significant minutes
2. More than one role asked of a player
equal not a role player.

ok so that helps narrow down why we were coming up with different takes on chandler's numbers. i'm not defining a role player as a specialist like you are.