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11/12/2008  10:04 PM
Posted by PresIke:

TMS, I thought Zach played well when no one else was doing jack except Jamal late in the game last night.

He was in on every missed shot, and the offense changed, focused around his post game, where he was effective.

Zach has been praticaly a revelation to many this season, and I saw a lot of positives, even in the loss, with his approach yesterday.

He's been adjusting or trying hard every game. What more can you ask?

i'm not complaining about Zach's play, or didn't u catch my post where i just said if not for him & Jamal this team would be 0-6?
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11/12/2008  10:04 PM
Posted by TMS:
Posted by crzymdups:
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if Chandler & Zach had played like this vs SA they woulda won that game too... Jamal's been carying more than his load this year... it's up to the rest of his teammates to do the same... they looked great tonight but consistency is something they still have yet to learn & that's not any single player i'm referring to... they need to start playing this way on the regular before we can get really excited.

its the difference between playing San Antonio's defense and Memphis' defense, i think. San Antonio knows how to stop the SSOL offense and Memphis doesn't and is young enough to get rattled.

no doubt, this ball movement would not have been possible against that tough SA D... but guys also weren't knocking down shots either when they were open in that game... we gotta get consistent play from everyone before we start getting our hopes up over this team, but tonight was definitely fun to watch.

this is officially an aberration... Roberson just hit an open 3.

i dont know... i dont think you can realistically call hitting jumpers a thing of consistency. i think that's really hard to do. some nights it'll be there, some nights it won't. i think this team's problem is gonna be grinding out the nights the shots aren't falling.
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11/12/2008  10:05 PM
nate 8-8 and chan 11-12
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11/12/2008  10:07 PM
Posted by crzymdups:
Posted by TMS:
Posted by crzymdups:
Posted by TMS:

if Chandler & Zach had played like this vs SA they woulda won that game too... Jamal's been carying more than his load this year... it's up to the rest of his teammates to do the same... they looked great tonight but consistency is something they still have yet to learn & that's not any single player i'm referring to... they need to start playing this way on the regular before we can get really excited.

its the difference between playing San Antonio's defense and Memphis' defense, i think. San Antonio knows how to stop the SSOL offense and Memphis doesn't and is young enough to get rattled.

no doubt, this ball movement would not have been possible against that tough SA D... but guys also weren't knocking down shots either when they were open in that game... we gotta get consistent play from everyone before we start getting our hopes up over this team, but tonight was definitely fun to watch.

this is officially an aberration... Roberson just hit an open 3.

i dont know... i dont think you can realistically call hitting jumpers a thing of consistency. i think that's really hard to do. some nights it'll be there, some nights it won't. i think this team's problem is gonna be grinding out the nights the shots aren't falling.

It's about creating great shots as opposed to poor shots. This offense is designed to create open shots and if NBA players get open shots consistently, they'll hit for a higher %. That's why teams hit for such a high % against us last 3 years, cuz we didn't defend at all and they were taking open shots. NBA players will hit those. Our players will hit those too.
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11/12/2008  10:07 PM
whenever Jamal's shot is off people blame it on his inconsistency... i don't see the difference using it to apply to other players when their shots aren't falling.
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11/12/2008  10:07 PM
Posted by Marv:

nate 8-8 and chan 11-12

roberson 3-3!
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11/12/2008  10:07 PM
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11/12/2008  10:07 PM
Posted by TMS:
Posted by crzymdups:
Posted by TMS:

if Chandler & Zach had played like this vs SA they woulda won that game too... Jamal's been carying more than his load this year... it's up to the rest of his teammates to do the same... they looked great tonight but consistency is something they still have yet to learn & that's not any single player i'm referring to... they need to start playing this way on the regular before we can get really excited.

its the difference between playing San Antonio's defense and Memphis' defense, i think. San Antonio knows how to stop the SSOL offense and Memphis doesn't and is young enough to get rattled.

no doubt, this ball movement would not have been possible against that tough SA D... but guys also weren't knocking down shots either when they were open in that game... we gotta get consistent play from everyone before we start getting our hopes up over this team, but tonight was definitely fun to watch.

this is officially an aberration... Roberson just hit an open 3.

I don't think we are THIS good, but the performance should not be completely ignored.

Early on Memphis was giving us trouble. We did well going to the half, but I wondered what Memphis would do.

Gasol disappeared, and D'Antoni dictated the pace.

We should beat teams like this, even with talent.

D'Antoni is a real coach, and we have some guys who are developing or fit well.

If we are off in shooting we will struggle, and SA is a team that will give us trouble because they contest every shot.

But many teams just don't play D, so we can beat them, as long as we can hit the open shot.

We would have beaten the Spurs if we hit more open shots, I think, despite their offense. If they had Ginobli and Parker, probably not.

Memphis has talent, but are vulnerable.

D'Antoni knows that his system, and ability, can beat bad teams.

Tonight is a prime example of what should happen.

now we're 5-3.
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11/12/2008  10:07 PM
pleasure catching the win with you gents.
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11/12/2008  10:08 PM
The Knicks were 19 for 34 from 3. It was really the key to the win.
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11/12/2008  10:08 PM
Posted by TMS:
Posted by PresIke:

TMS, I thought Zach played well when no one else was doing jack except Jamal late in the game last night.

He was in on every missed shot, and the offense changed, focused around his post game, where he was effective.

Zach has been praticaly a revelation to many this season, and I saw a lot of positives, even in the loss, with his approach yesterday.

He's been adjusting or trying hard every game. What more can you ask?

i'm not complaining about Zach's play, or didn't u catch my post where i just said if not for him & Jamal this team would be 0-6?

naw man, missed it...my bad.

Jamal has been crazy. i've been down on him, but somehow it's working, thus far.
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11/12/2008  10:08 PM
Posted by Marv:

pleasure catching the win with you gents.

I wish I could say the same about you
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11/12/2008  10:08 PM
Posted by nixluva:
Posted by crzymdups:
Posted by TMS:
Posted by crzymdups:
Posted by TMS:

if Chandler & Zach had played like this vs SA they woulda won that game too... Jamal's been carying more than his load this year... it's up to the rest of his teammates to do the same... they looked great tonight but consistency is something they still have yet to learn & that's not any single player i'm referring to... they need to start playing this way on the regular before we can get really excited.

its the difference between playing San Antonio's defense and Memphis' defense, i think. San Antonio knows how to stop the SSOL offense and Memphis doesn't and is young enough to get rattled.

no doubt, this ball movement would not have been possible against that tough SA D... but guys also weren't knocking down shots either when they were open in that game... we gotta get consistent play from everyone before we start getting our hopes up over this team, but tonight was definitely fun to watch.

this is officially an aberration... Roberson just hit an open 3.

i dont know... i dont think you can realistically call hitting jumpers a thing of consistency. i think that's really hard to do. some nights it'll be there, some nights it won't. i think this team's problem is gonna be grinding out the nights the shots aren't falling.

It's about creating great shots as opposed to poor shots. This offense is designed to create open shots and if NBA players get open shots consistently, they'll hit for a higher %. That's why teams hit for such a high % against us last 3 years, cuz we didn't defend at all and they were taking open shots. NBA players will hit those. Our players will hit those too.

true. that's a good point. okay, we'll see what happens. i just think the true defensive teams, the boston, san antonio, lakers, etc will be able to take that away from us and we better have a set offense to go thru. like some pick and rolls with craw and zbo or chandler? i don't know.
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11/12/2008  10:09 PM
Damn Chandler's eye is jacked up.
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11/12/2008  10:10 PM
Posted by PresIke:
Posted by TMS:
Posted by PresIke:

TMS, I thought Zach played well when no one else was doing jack except Jamal late in the game last night.

He was in on every missed shot, and the offense changed, focused around his post game, where he was effective.

Zach has been praticaly a revelation to many this season, and I saw a lot of positives, even in the loss, with his approach yesterday.

He's been adjusting or trying hard every game. What more can you ask?

i'm not complaining about Zach's play, or didn't u catch my post where i just said if not for him & Jamal this team would be 0-6?

naw man, missed it...my bad.

Jamal has been crazy. i've been down on him, but somehow it's working, thus far.

np bro... at least u can acknowledge the improvement in his game.
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11/12/2008  10:13 PM
Wow. That's all I can say. Memphis shoots 48% and scores 103 points and get beat by 29.

We should bottle this game and stash it somewhere. It's one of those games where EVERYTHING went right.

Chandler and Nate missed 1 shot between them. Think about that for a second. ;)
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11/12/2008  10:17 PM
Posted by crzymdups:
Posted by nixluva:
Posted by crzymdups:
Posted by TMS:
Posted by crzymdups:
Posted by TMS:

if Chandler & Zach had played like this vs SA they woulda won that game too... Jamal's been carying more than his load this year... it's up to the rest of his teammates to do the same... they looked great tonight but consistency is something they still have yet to learn & that's not any single player i'm referring to... they need to start playing this way on the regular before we can get really excited.

its the difference between playing San Antonio's defense and Memphis' defense, i think. San Antonio knows how to stop the SSOL offense and Memphis doesn't and is young enough to get rattled.

no doubt, this ball movement would not have been possible against that tough SA D... but guys also weren't knocking down shots either when they were open in that game... we gotta get consistent play from everyone before we start getting our hopes up over this team, but tonight was definitely fun to watch.

this is officially an aberration... Roberson just hit an open 3.

i dont know... i dont think you can realistically call hitting jumpers a thing of consistency. i think that's really hard to do. some nights it'll be there, some nights it won't. i think this team's problem is gonna be grinding out the nights the shots aren't falling.

It's about creating great shots as opposed to poor shots. This offense is designed to create open shots and if NBA players get open shots consistently, they'll hit for a higher %. That's why teams hit for such a high % against us last 3 years, cuz we didn't defend at all and they were taking open shots. NBA players will hit those. Our players will hit those too.

true. that's a good point. okay, we'll see what happens. i just think the true defensive teams, the boston, san antonio, lakers, etc will be able to take that away from us and we better have a set offense to go thru. like some pick and rolls with craw and zbo or chandler? i don't know.

We only have one half of the equation for a good team. We've got a bunch of role players who are now playing good team ball, but to get to the next level and be able to beat the better teams, you need STUDS! Guys who don't need plays or a system to perform. We might have a guy in Chan, but who knows at this point. Jamal and Nate have the next closest thing to having a stud, in that they can explode for periods of time and that can get you over the hump sometimes. We still need a Stud.
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11/12/2008  10:27 PM
Posted by nixluva:
Posted by crzymdups:
Posted by nixluva:
Posted by crzymdups:
Posted by TMS:
Posted by crzymdups:
Posted by TMS:

if Chandler & Zach had played like this vs SA they woulda won that game too... Jamal's been carying more than his load this year... it's up to the rest of his teammates to do the same... they looked great tonight but consistency is something they still have yet to learn & that's not any single player i'm referring to... they need to start playing this way on the regular before we can get really excited.

its the difference between playing San Antonio's defense and Memphis' defense, i think. San Antonio knows how to stop the SSOL offense and Memphis doesn't and is young enough to get rattled.

no doubt, this ball movement would not have been possible against that tough SA D... but guys also weren't knocking down shots either when they were open in that game... we gotta get consistent play from everyone before we start getting our hopes up over this team, but tonight was definitely fun to watch.

this is officially an aberration... Roberson just hit an open 3.

i dont know... i dont think you can realistically call hitting jumpers a thing of consistency. i think that's really hard to do. some nights it'll be there, some nights it won't. i think this team's problem is gonna be grinding out the nights the shots aren't falling.

It's about creating great shots as opposed to poor shots. This offense is designed to create open shots and if NBA players get open shots consistently, they'll hit for a higher %. That's why teams hit for such a high % against us last 3 years, cuz we didn't defend at all and they were taking open shots. NBA players will hit those. Our players will hit those too.

true. that's a good point. okay, we'll see what happens. i just think the true defensive teams, the boston, san antonio, lakers, etc will be able to take that away from us and we better have a set offense to go thru. like some pick and rolls with craw and zbo or chandler? i don't know.

We only have one half of the equation for a good team. We've got a bunch of role players who are now playing good team ball, but to get to the next level and be able to beat the better teams, you need STUDS! Guys who don't need plays or a system to perform. We might have a guy in Chan, but who knows at this point. Jamal and Nate have the next closest thing to having a stud, in that they can explode for periods of time and that can get you over the hump sometimes. We still need a Stud.

Why we need STUDS if we do have system and plays?
Seriously... Do you really think that if you have STUDS you don't need system and plays?



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11/12/2008  10:28 PM
On a related note, this just may be me but I think there's more people posting in this thread than were at the FedEx arena tonight.
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11/12/2008  10:30 PM
Posted by arkrud:
Posted by nixluva:
Posted by crzymdups:
Posted by nixluva:
Posted by crzymdups:
Posted by TMS:
Posted by crzymdups:
Posted by TMS:

if Chandler & Zach had played like this vs SA they woulda won that game too... Jamal's been carying more than his load this year... it's up to the rest of his teammates to do the same... they looked great tonight but consistency is something they still have yet to learn & that's not any single player i'm referring to... they need to start playing this way on the regular before we can get really excited.

its the difference between playing San Antonio's defense and Memphis' defense, i think. San Antonio knows how to stop the SSOL offense and Memphis doesn't and is young enough to get rattled.

no doubt, this ball movement would not have been possible against that tough SA D... but guys also weren't knocking down shots either when they were open in that game... we gotta get consistent play from everyone before we start getting our hopes up over this team, but tonight was definitely fun to watch.

this is officially an aberration... Roberson just hit an open 3.

i dont know... i dont think you can realistically call hitting jumpers a thing of consistency. i think that's really hard to do. some nights it'll be there, some nights it won't. i think this team's problem is gonna be grinding out the nights the shots aren't falling.

It's about creating great shots as opposed to poor shots. This offense is designed to create open shots and if NBA players get open shots consistently, they'll hit for a higher %. That's why teams hit for such a high % against us last 3 years, cuz we didn't defend at all and they were taking open shots. NBA players will hit those. Our players will hit those too.

true. that's a good point. okay, we'll see what happens. i just think the true defensive teams, the boston, san antonio, lakers, etc will be able to take that away from us and we better have a set offense to go thru. like some pick and rolls with craw and zbo or chandler? i don't know.

We only have one half of the equation for a good team. We've got a bunch of role players who are now playing good team ball, but to get to the next level and be able to beat the better teams, you need STUDS! Guys who don't need plays or a system to perform. We might have a guy in Chan, but who knows at this point. Jamal and Nate have the next closest thing to having a stud, in that they can explode for periods of time and that can get you over the hump sometimes. We still need a Stud.

Why we need STUDS if we do have system and plays?
Seriously... Do you really think that if you have STUDS you don't need system and plays?

see the San Antonio game for an example of why you need a stud. it helps.
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