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Elite
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8/4/2007  7:57 PM
back to the topic.. this was preposed at realgm
I'm now hearing that this might be agreed to in principal but no one is reporting anything yet...........

Balkman
Malik Rose
Nate Rob
Dickau
and Fred Jones

FOR

Artest
K.Thomas
Francisco Garcia


dam I liked Balkman and Nate but dammit I'm from Queeens and i love Ron Artest...

Thank You Isiah once again

I personally would not be all that excited about this deal I dont want to loose Balkman but i think it puts us in the playoffs for sure... I just dont think we would be championship material
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8/4/2007  8:04 PM
Posted by Elite:

back to the topic.. this was preposed at realgm
I'm now hearing that this might be agreed to in principal but no one is reporting anything yet...........

Balkman
Malik Rose
Nate Rob
Dickau
and Fred Jones

FOR

Artest
K.Thomas
Francisco Garcia



dam I liked Balkman and Nate but dammit I'm from Queeens and i love Ron Artest...

Thank You Isiah once again

I personally would not be all that excited about this deal I dont want to loose Balkman but i think it puts us in the playoffs for sure... I just dont think we would be championship material

I would remove both KT and Garcia in exchange for Justin Williams. He gives us the shot-blocking energy payer off the bench that we desperately need. Wait a minute, I dont want to trade Balk. What am I saying.....Nah, but seriously, if the Kings add Williams to the package, it gets that much more interesting...
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8/4/2007  8:36 PM
I'd rather trade Lee than Balkman.
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8/4/2007  8:40 PM
Posted by JohnWallace44:

I'd rather trade Lee than Balkman.
same, but not for artest. having Randolph has given us the luxury of trading Lee.
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8/4/2007  8:46 PM
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Posted by Silverfuel:
Posted by EnySpree:

"I expect A LOT more from silver"? I'm trying to understand what that means.

IMO, the best thing to do is to make a list of members and only read their posts. It's not even worth your time to try and make them understand. Its the off season bro, it's a real pain in the ass.

Basically. You can go through the threads a lot of faster and avoid unnesessary headache. Let it go bro (ENYspree) there's really no point

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Just trying to make sense out of the baggering. Its not all him though. Its the year long grudge I was curious about.

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8/4/2007  9:05 PM
Posted by EnySpree:

Sigh, what would chuck Norris do?
saw this commercial sometime ago on youtube. the chuck norris facts thing got huge!
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8/4/2007  9:17 PM
Posted by Elite:

back to the topic.. this was preposed at realgm
I'm now hearing that this might be agreed to in principal but no one is reporting anything yet...........

Balkman
Malik Rose
Nate Rob
Dickau
and Fred Jones

FOR

Artest
K.Thomas
Francisco Garcia


dam I liked Balkman and Nate but dammit I'm from Queeens and i love Ron Artest...

Thank You Isiah once again

I personally would not be all that excited about this deal I dont want to loose Balkman but i think it puts us in the playoffs for sure... I just dont think we would be championship material

If this is true I SAY UGH would be adding $20mil in additional future salary from the salary differences between the aforementioned players in the deal. I mean when is enough enough?
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8/4/2007  10:02 PM
Why would you trade Lee instead of Balkman? Lee can potentially back up both Curry and Zach, Balkman can only play PF.
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8/4/2007  10:49 PM
But, you cannot deny that the slightest bit of optimism gets attacked on this forum. I say one good thing and I get jumped by 5 people and then they get personal.....

Silver no disrespect intended at all, but this door really seems to swing both ways...
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8/4/2007  11:18 PM
Posted by loweyecue:

Why would you trade Lee instead of Balkman? Lee can potentially back up both Curry and Zach, Balkman can only play PF.

Because we are not bulding the team of character but the team of exitement.
Lee is not a good feet for this
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8/4/2007  11:36 PM
most i'd give up is nate, balkman, and jones.
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8/4/2007  11:38 PM
i really don't see any of this happeneing. there is nothing that confirms an interest. the article on realgm was later confirmed as false.
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8/4/2007  11:59 PM
Posted by joec32033:
But, you cannot deny that the slightest bit of optimism gets attacked on this forum. I say one good thing and I get jumped by 5 people and then they get personal.....
Silver no disrespect intended at all, but this door really seems to swing both ways...
more one way than the other but the point is to avoid it from getting worse by ignoring the flamers.

Where have you been btw? Guess the kids keeping you real busy? You gonna have time to get your ass kicked again at fantasy bball? I'm watching TV on a Saturday night trying to recover from a crazy bar crawl from Friday night. We gotta talk about this trade sometime. AIM me if you are online.
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8/5/2007  12:00 AM
Posted by jaydh:

i really don't see any of this happeneing. there is nothing that confirms an interest. the article on realgm was later confirmed as false.

The rumor didn't have any validity as of right now. However you can see how some discussions will likely take place between the teams down the line. Sac wants to send Artest away and start to clean things up with a new coach. NY wants to jump into the top of the Eastern Conf. battle and take a shot at getting to the finals. WIth teams in the East loading up, you can kind of see Isiah looking to make something happen.

Personally I don't know about Artest being that piece to get us to the top. Talent wise maybe, but chemistry wise it looks like a disaster waiting to happen. We have to hope that isiah realizes who and what kind of guy Artest is. He has experience coaching the guy. That can be a good thing or a bad thing depending upon how Isiah remembers Artest.
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8/5/2007  12:05 AM
per some guy at realgm who said he spoke with quincy douby...this is the rumored deal:

nate + balkman + malik + dickau + jones for artest + kenny thomas + garcia
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8/5/2007  12:29 AM
Posted by djsunyc:

per some guy at realgm who said he spoke with quincy douby...this is the rumored deal:

nate + balkman + malik + dickau + jones for artest + kenny thomas + garcia

I don't know what to make of this trade scenario except I rather not trade for Artest and not give up Balkman for him. Thomas is a younger version of Malik with an extra year on his contract. The Nate/Garcia is almost a wash except I think Nate is the better player but Garcia maybe the better fit. Balkman, Dickau and Jones for Artest is what it comes down to IMO. Hmm... This scenario is too hard to figure.

BTW, that trade is not typical for Isiah, it sounds too even.

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8/5/2007  1:12 AM
Posted by djsunyc:

per some guy at realgm who said he spoke with quincy douby...this is the rumored deal:

nate + balkman + malik + dickau + jones for artest + kenny thomas + garcia


It's been posted here already dj.


We'd be taking on $20mil in additional future salary.
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8/5/2007  11:02 AM
Posted by djsunyc:

per some guy at realgm who said he spoke with quincy douby...this is the rumored deal:

nate + balkman + malik + dickau + jones for artest + kenny thomas + garcia

I thought Balkman wasn't for sale for Artest. Also Qunicy Douby knowing the details of the trade sounds far fetched to me.
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8/5/2007  11:10 AM
Posted by newyorknewyork:
Posted by djsunyc:

per some guy at realgm who said he spoke with quincy douby...this is the rumored deal:

nate + balkman + malik + dickau + jones for artest + kenny thomas + garcia

I thought Balkman wasn't for sale for Artest. Also Qunicy Douby knowing the details of the trade sounds far fetched to me.


well, i was hoping to keep dikua because i was curious to see if he would be a legit backup as well as jones. our bench would take a little hit especially in the backup point position. mardy better be healthy this year. giving up malik for kennt thomas is an even exchange and i haven't heard anything about garcia since he left college.
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8/5/2007  2:31 PM
August 04, 2007
Artest-to-Knicks rumors won't die anytime soon

As Las Vegas summer league came to a close in mid-July, Kings players gathered their belongings after a finale win over the Clippers and headed for the exits.

Among the last to leave was Daniel Artest, the younger brother of Ron Artest and a Kings summer league participant. The reason for his delay? He had been spotted by New York Knicks general manager Isiah Thomas, a longtime family friend and just the person whose ear Daniel wanted to bend.

They half-hugged and chatted for a moment when Daniel finally headed for the locker room.

"You campaigning to get Ron to New York," this reporter asked.

"You know it," Daniel said with a smile.

So long as the Knicks need help and Artest remains so far from his hometown team in the Big Apple, the chatter will continue about a possible homecoming. Nearly three weeks had passed since the last resurfacing of trade rumors until Friday, when ESPN writer Ric Bucher said during an on-line chat that he'd heard of a Kings-Knicks deal currently in the works.

But numerous sources said there's nothing doing at present, and the overall sense is that the Kings have never been close to what - in their estimation - would be giving Artest away. Jared Jeffries, for example, was a "centerpiece" of a proposal New York came the Kings' way with earlier in the summer, clearly meaning Thomas missed the memo stating that Kings exec Geoff Petrie is not as desperate to move Artest as once believed. And with the David Lee-types reportedly not available, the lone player of intrigue from the Kings' standpoint appears to be third-year point guard Nate Robinson. Otherwise, it's a blanket request gone unanswered for draft picks and expiring contracts as part of the Kings' rebuilding objective.

As the summer days have passed, Petrie appears to have bunkered down in his position, growing more and more stubborn and determined to improve the offers for Artest or point guard Mike Bibby. As Petrie knows, the desperation will eventually come - though not from him. Teams looking for that difference-maker to push them over the top next season will likely be more cooperative as the February trade deadline approaches. As leverage goes, the Kings are enjoying the luxury of operating under a long-term plan.
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