Blueseats - you said you considered the phrase "nappy headed hos" to be black lingo?

You say you are confused why I have a problem with what you are saying, yet you continue to say such close minded statements.

Its very disturbing to read some of the stuff that is being said in this thread.

Nyk4ever - I didn't call you a racist or anything. Its just in your brief comment it seems as if you were thinking along the lines of blueseats.

I'm not calling blueseats or anyone here a racist. There is a level of ignorance toward black people that has been on display. I believe most of you guys have not been close enough to anyone black to relate or even understand where they are coming from. There is a lot of over analizing and playing on words that's bringing a lot of confusion to this debate.

This tention between whites and blacks has never left. Its a big misunderstanding that white people ignore and powder it up to make it look nice and black people pointing fingers at people that could care less about their struggle.

All in all, maybe we can share a pilzner together again and not want to kill each other. I don't think we will ever understand where each of us are coming from. All we can do is have compassion and respect for each others existance and not make the same mistakes as the people like is did before. At the same time we all need to understand and except our history in order for their to be any hope of understanding.

Reading up on Don Imus comments and watching the tape of what he said.
He didn't come of as racist. It came off more as discriminative and sexist.

And his partner McQuirk was laying it on a little to much as well.

Imus called Rutgers basketball nappy headed hoes, but said that Tennesse women all look cute. There are a lot of black women on Tennesse's team so I can't say that he was being racist. As he isn't saying that all black women are nappy headed hoes.

He was saying though how because they have tatooes, and because they are so tough that they are nappy headed hoes. That is discriminative. He was saying because they aren't as cute or basically as prissy as Tennesse girls. That they are nappy headed hoes, and that comes off as sexest. As does the fact that he called a womens basketball team hoes.

While im pretty sure that since the majority of Rutgers women were black had a ton of influence on his statements. As I doubt if Rutgers team was majority white, but still as tough that he would have called them nappy headed hoes. Again I don't think he feels that all black women are nappy headed hoes. So he came off more discriminative and sexist then racist to me.

And after finally watching the video it wasn't even funny, like I at least thought it was going to be. I thought he would have at least more flavor.

newyorkknew - "discriminative"?

is that even a word?

[Edited by - misterearl on 04-09-2007 6:12 PM]

Where is NOW?

newyork - you have proven your ability to cut and paste

a simple yes would have sufficed.

I woulda believed you.

"...who knows what evil lurks in the hearts of men...?"

>>I didn't know your intentions.

Classic

no harm. no foul.

Posted by misterearl:

Where is NOW?

I heard the vice president of NOW along with Al Sharpton interviewed this morning on Democracy Now. If you go to www.NOW.org they are encouraging people to write to WFAN, CBS Radio & MSNBC and call for the firing of Imus. They even include a sample letter.

CBS Radio is still up in the air but I know that WFAN would be hurt badly. I am curious did any call Mike and the Mad Dog about this since they thought it right to also attack the Rutger team for performing gamesmanship during a game. Mike said it wasn't 'ladylike' He made those comments while saying I shouldn't say this but he doesn't like women to behave like that. I found that troubling as well because it was pure sexist and he admitted to it. I have stated it before and I will state it again. Joe is the only guy on that station without an agenda other then to see his teams win.

nyk4ever - that part you highlighted was what I was talking about. At the same time you should have just explained your stance. I see why you are annoyed at me for jumping the gun and including you but can you blame me?

I just feel that this dude don imus should be fired cuz there is no excuse for him to say what he said. That's my opinion.

If imus is not fired then it will open the flood gates on being openly racist. Its like saying the "n" word is becoming mainstream. How can it become mainstream if the word is racist if it comes out of any other mouth but a black person. Not saying using the word by blacks is correct cuz it isn't. I don't use it. I told my stepson if I ever caught him saying it with his friends I would knock every tooth out of his mouth.

My point is there shouldn't be a debate when it comes to this. Its unfortunate that black people use the "n" word in casual conversation. Those that do are ignorant bastards. To relate it back to the imus comments, yes black comics say stuff they shouldn't. Coming from them it can be funny, but if anyone of another race calls themselves copying that type of humor, they are racists period.

I like to hear racial humor sometimes but there is always a fine line. I think that mencina guy is too over the top. There is this white lady I can't remember her name but she if known for her racial act. I never seen anyone push the button as much as she does but she give it to every race and goes off 3 times as bad on herself.

I'm just trying to give examples of "a time and a place" scenerios.

My thing is, if you are not a racist don't say racist things. If you are a comic can get away with a lot. If you are a cartoon you can really go nuts! Regular folk, yeah man we have guidelines set up by the ugliness of the past. Just to add fire to that statement, why are the majority of black American here? White people brought them here through slavery. The racism and words came from those days. The meanings of the words should never be forgotten. People don't want to make a big deal of it but why even say the words if you know the history.

Ignorance is bliss.