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codeunknown
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3/21/2007  3:56 PM
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Code - thank you for the insightful game analysis.

I didn't want to post anything derogatory. I know how that upsets you.

Looking forward to your analysis of our next game.
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Posted by misterearl:

Cultural Change

Code - thank you for the insightful game analysis.

Meanwhile, back to the conversation. I have always contended there are much larger issues in play at 2 Penn Plaza than simple in-game analysis. The historic fractures between managament on the floor and in the upper level suites has done more damage to the franchise than any play calling.

Holzman and McGuire did not get along. Bianchi and McLeod were instant disasters. Ernie was stabbed in the back by Van Gundy.

Mark Cuban offered his "analysis" in the NYTimes:

>>Mark Cuban is renowned as a risk-taker, so it should perhaps come as no surprise that he endorsed the Knicks’ much-criticized decision to extend Isiah Thomas’s contract. “It’s not just about, ‘Should he stay or should he go?’ It’s ‘Who’s next?’ ” said Cuban, the Mavericks’ owner. “Who’s next isn’t always who’s better. Working with a guy and letting him develop and letting him get to a point where he can succeed, and giving him the tools he needs, in the N.B.A., is a far better strategy than just saying, ‘O.K., next, next, next.’ “ Cuban praised the Knicks’ progress. He said their better chemistry and camaraderie was evident. “As an owner, I see that that’s a cultural change.

That’s going from a place where people didn’t want to be, where there was so much drama, and no one wanted to be, to a scenario where people want to be here and are glad to be here. That’s huge.”<<

Huge.

No I beleieve Bip is the one who has actually always contended this. All the rest are just followers.
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Posted by misterearl:



Meanwhile, back to the conversation. I have always contended there are much larger issues in play at 2 Penn Plaza than simple in-game analysis. The historic fractures between managament on the floor and in the upper level suites has done more damage to the franchise than any play calling.

Ok
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3/21/2007  7:24 PM
CodeUnk - how many times do I need to remind you? In the immortal words of Austin Powers, "in-game analysis is not my bag baby."

Guard: "One Red On Roundball video tape"

Earl: "Hey, that's not mine!"

Guard: "... one Phog Allen book about basketball fundamentals..."

Earl: "...how did THAT get in there?"

Guard: "...one John Wooden dry-erase board, autographed by Hubie Brown..."

Earl: "... HEY, somebody planted that in my suitcase babay..."

Guard: "one book, title- my life in the NBA as an in-game analyst, because it's my bag baby... by Mister Earl..."

Earl: (cough) "hey... over there!...Jessica ALBA!!!"

[Edited by - misterearl on 03-21-2007 7:25 PM]
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3/21/2007  9:46 PM
Posted by misterearl:

CodeUnk - how many times do I need to remind you? In the immortal words of Austin Powers, "in-game analysis is not my bag baby."

[Edited by - misterearl on 03-21-2007 7:25 PM]

Austin, what is it that you do here? Remind me of that again. Its not in-game analysis. Its not analysis outside of the game. You don't post in the Alba thread. Its just that one line, "it aint your money," over and over again. As if Dolan judo chopped you upside the head.
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3/21/2007  11:04 PM
The riddle of the universe

CodeUnk - what is it that i do here?

Hell if I know. How about, as Reggie might say, "I am the orange and blue drink that gives the straw a reason to be."

Besides, I haven't used, "it ain't my money" in at least five days. But don't tempt me.

With that said, and always seeking higher knowledge and Knicks discussion... but totally lacking in "in-game" analysis... I would offer the first (in a very funky series) of my unpredictible and totally unexpected NYKnicks selections for the 2007 NBA Draft:

Knicks Skill-Set Requirement

A scorer with range and the ability, and diversity, to creat his shot. Preference for size and defensive ability.

Valuable Personality Traits (the Mister Earl VPT Index) - Intelligence, ability to expand game based on experience. Intensity.

Scholarly Research

If you ever drive south on I-85, there is a school in Petersburg, Virginia with a noble basketball tracdition. It's arch-rival is the same school that produced Charles Oakley and Ben Wallace. It plays in the same conference which produced the prototypical small forward of the modern era, Bobby Dandridge.

So, with no further ado, no additional fanfare or additional gilding of the lily, and in the same spirit of one of my all time favorites Zarko Carkapaka, my first Knicks selection is... (drum roll please)...

(SFX; computer data crunching sounds)

Avis Wyatt Virginia State 6'10 215

(NBADraftNet substitute abridged summary)

Strengths: Extremely mobile player who runs the court like a guard … Great shot blocker who is an excellent help defender … Great body potential in that with added weight his mobility and athleticism will not be compromised … Offensively his skills are quite advanced

Mid-range shooting can extend out to 18 feet and hit with regularity … Shows soft touch on his shots … Although almost a dying art form Wyatt has the “Tim Duncan” bank shot in his face up game …

Possesses three point range on his jumper … For his size he is a great ball handler capable of using cross overs to gain separation from his man … Tremendous out of position rebounder due to his long arms and foot speed

Defensively he has the physical tools to develop into a stopper: long arms, decent athleticism, quick hands and mobility …

Smart player who has a high basketball IQ … Creates mismatch problems due to his versatility … Great finisher around the basket … Does a good job when getting the ball in the post of keeping the ball high and not putting it on the floor … Unselfish almost to a fault …

Plays the game with good intensity and has a mean streak … Only played two years of organized basketball in high school has loads of potential

I put him at two guard to create matchup nigtmares for defenders.

Book it Dano



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3/21/2007  11:06 PM
Posted by misterearl:

The riddle of the universe

CodeUnk - what is it that i do here?

Hell if I know. How about, as Reggie might say, "I am the orange and blue drink that gives the straw a reason to be."

Besides, I haven't used, "it ain't my money" in at least five days. But don't tempt me.

With that said, and always seeking higher knowledge and Knicks discussion... but totally lacking in "in-game" analysis... I would offer the first (in a very funky series) of my unpredictible and totally unexpected NYKnicks selections for the 2007 NBA Draft:

Knicks Skill-Set Requirement

A scorer with range and the ability, and diversity, to creat his shot. Preference for size and defensive ability.

Valuable Personality Traits (the Mister Earl VPT Index) - Intelligence, ability to expand game based on experience. Intensity.

Scholarly Research

If you ever drive south on I-85, there is a school in Petersburg, Virginia with a noble basketball tracdition. It's arch-rival is the same school that produced Charles Oakley and Ben Wallace. It plays in the same conference which produced the prototypical small forward of the modern era, Bobby Dandridge.

So, with no further ado, no additional fanfare or additional gilding of the lily, and in the same spirit of one of my all time favorites Zarko Carkapaka, my first Knicks selection is... (drum roll please)...

(SFX; computer data crunching sounds)

Avis Wyatt Virginia State 6'10 215

(NBADraftNet substitute abridged summary)

Strengths: Extremely mobile player who runs the court like a guard … Great shot blocker who is an excellent help defender … Great body potential in that with added weight his mobility and athleticism will not be compromised … Offensively his skills are quite advanced

Mid-range shooting can extend out to 18 feet and hit with regularity … Shows soft touch on his shots … Although almost a dying art form Wyatt has the “Tim Duncan” bank shot in his face up game …

Possesses three point range on his jumper … For his size he is a great ball handler capable of using cross overs to gain separation from his man … Tremendous out of position rebounder due to his long arms and foot speed

Defensively he has the physical tools to develop into a stopper: long arms, decent athleticism, quick hands and mobility …

Smart player who has a high basketball IQ … Creates mismatch problems due to his versatility … Great finisher around the basket … Does a good job when getting the ball in the post of keeping the ball high and not putting it on the floor … Unselfish almost to a fault …

Plays the game with good intensity and has a mean streak … Only played two years of organized basketball in high school has loads of potential

I put him at two guard to create matchup nigtmares for defenders.

Book it Dano

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3/22/2007  6:43 PM
Posted by misterearl:

The riddle of the universe

CodeUnk - what is it that i do here?

Hell if I know. How about, as Reggie might say, "I am the orange and blue drink that gives the straw a reason to be."

Besides, I haven't used, "it ain't my money" in at least five days. But don't tempt me.

With that said, and always seeking higher knowledge and Knicks discussion... but totally lacking in "in-game" analysis... I would offer the first (in a very funky series) of my unpredictible and totally unexpected NYKnicks selections for the 2007 NBA Draft:

Knicks Skill-Set Requirement

A scorer with range and the ability, and diversity, to creat his shot. Preference for size and defensive ability.

Valuable Personality Traits (the Mister Earl VPT Index) - Intelligence, ability to expand game based on experience. Intensity.

Scholarly Research

If you ever drive south on I-85, there is a school in Petersburg, Virginia with a noble basketball tracdition. It's arch-rival is the same school that produced Charles Oakley and Ben Wallace. It plays in the same conference which produced the prototypical small forward of the modern era, Bobby Dandridge.

So, with no further ado, no additional fanfare or additional gilding of the lily, and in the same spirit of one of my all time favorites Zarko Carkapaka, my first Knicks selection is... (drum roll please)...

(SFX; computer data crunching sounds)

Avis Wyatt Virginia State 6'10 215

(NBADraftNet substitute abridged summary)

Strengths: Extremely mobile player who runs the court like a guard … Great shot blocker who is an excellent help defender … Great body potential in that with added weight his mobility and athleticism will not be compromised … Offensively his skills are quite advanced

Mid-range shooting can extend out to 18 feet and hit with regularity … Shows soft touch on his shots … Although almost a dying art form Wyatt has the “Tim Duncan” bank shot in his face up game …

Possesses three point range on his jumper … For his size he is a great ball handler capable of using cross overs to gain separation from his man … Tremendous out of position rebounder due to his long arms and foot speed

Defensively he has the physical tools to develop into a stopper: long arms, decent athleticism, quick hands and mobility …

Smart player who has a high basketball IQ … Creates mismatch problems due to his versatility … Great finisher around the basket … Does a good job when getting the ball in the post of keeping the ball high and not putting it on the floor … Unselfish almost to a fault …

Plays the game with good intensity and has a mean streak … Only played two years of organized basketball in high school has loads of potential

I put him at two guard to create matchup nigtmares for defenders.

Book it Dano


Why didn't you post his weaknesses? If you read the the Nbadraft.net "strengths" section of any player in the top 50, they all sound like Jordan.

In my opinion, its not the best idea to draft a tweener to play 2-guard. Especially not with our 1st rounder.
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3/22/2007  8:56 PM
Code - I ran out of space and forgot to take my rose-tinted shades off.

His weaknesses were more of the "it can be fixed" variety. But stay tuned, it was just a start...

I'm looking through the reviews of the point guards...
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3/22/2007  9:17 PM
Posted by misterearl:

Code - I ran out of space and forgot to take my rose-tinted shades off.

His weaknesses were more of the "it can be fixed" variety. But stay tuned, it was just a start...

I'm looking through the reviews of the point guards...

Sterearl, I know in-game analysis isn't your strength, but maybe watching some college basketball instead of reading reviews would make for a better approach.
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3/22/2007  9:23 PM
Posted by codeunknown:
Posted by misterearl:

The riddle of the universe

CodeUnk - what is it that i do here?

Hell if I know. How about, as Reggie might say, "I am the orange and blue drink that gives the straw a reason to be."

Besides, I haven't used, "it ain't my money" in at least five days. But don't tempt me.

With that said, and always seeking higher knowledge and Knicks discussion... but totally lacking in "in-game" analysis... I would offer the first (in a very funky series) of my unpredictible and totally unexpected NYKnicks selections for the 2007 NBA Draft:

Knicks Skill-Set Requirement

A scorer with range and the ability, and diversity, to creat his shot. Preference for size and defensive ability.

Valuable Personality Traits (the Mister Earl VPT Index) - Intelligence, ability to expand game based on experience. Intensity.

Scholarly Research

If you ever drive south on I-85, there is a school in Petersburg, Virginia with a noble basketball tracdition. It's arch-rival is the same school that produced Charles Oakley and Ben Wallace. It plays in the same conference which produced the prototypical small forward of the modern era, Bobby Dandridge.

So, with no further ado, no additional fanfare or additional gilding of the lily, and in the same spirit of one of my all time favorites Zarko Carkapaka, my first Knicks selection is... (drum roll please)...

(SFX; computer data crunching sounds)

Avis Wyatt Virginia State 6'10 215

(NBADraftNet substitute abridged summary)

Strengths: Extremely mobile player who runs the court like a guard … Great shot blocker who is an excellent help defender … Great body potential in that with added weight his mobility and athleticism will not be compromised … Offensively his skills are quite advanced

Mid-range shooting can extend out to 18 feet and hit with regularity … Shows soft touch on his shots … Although almost a dying art form Wyatt has the “Tim Duncan” bank shot in his face up game …

Possesses three point range on his jumper … For his size he is a great ball handler capable of using cross overs to gain separation from his man … Tremendous out of position rebounder due to his long arms and foot speed

Defensively he has the physical tools to develop into a stopper: long arms, decent athleticism, quick hands and mobility …

Smart player who has a high basketball IQ … Creates mismatch problems due to his versatility … Great finisher around the basket … Does a good job when getting the ball in the post of keeping the ball high and not putting it on the floor … Unselfish almost to a fault …

Plays the game with good intensity and has a mean streak … Only played two years of organized basketball in high school has loads of potential

I put him at two guard to create matchup nigtmares for defenders.

Book it Dano


Why didn't you post his weaknesses? If you read the the Nbadraft.net "strengths" section of any player in the top 50, they all sound like Jordan.

In my opinion, its not the best idea to draft a tweener to play 2-guard. Especially not with our 1st rounder.

NBAdraft.net


Weaknesses: Wyatt’s most glaring weaknesses have to do with his lack of upper body strength and bulk … But to his credit he has improved greatly this past year … Poor free throw shooter … Doesn’t always get good position in the post as he tends to get pushed off the blocks … At times he tends to overthink his moves and hesitate giving his defender time to adjust … Needs to work on sealing off his man better when rebounding … Back to basket moves are still in need of refinement … Struggles to finish after contact when attacking the basket … Could stand to work on his timing as he tends to bite on pump fakes … Can be a little foul prone when guarding physical players in the post … To some degree Wyatt is a tweener who will need to decide on a position … Lacks strength body wise to play power forward and will need to work on perimeter defense at the small forward position … Some will naturally talk about his level of competition … But to his credit in two exhibition games played against division one talent Wyatt has averaged 30 PPG and 7.5 RPG …

In ranking his NBA readiness, nbadraft.net ranked him as a 6/10.


http://www.draftexpress.com/viewprofile.php?p=1259draftXpress review.

He sounds like a Renaldo Balkman clone.
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3/23/2007  3:50 PM
JoeC - except for the fact Avis Wyatt's offensive (jump-shooting) game is more developed

Code - who sez I don't watch any college hoops? The first clue on Wyatt came from my nephew, who got me to watch him in person down in Ettrick VA.

Anyone can turn on the tube and watch the schools with all the national exposure but bear in mind, no one... and I do mean NO ONE watched (or heard of) Scottie Pippen, John Starks, Michael Ray Richardson, Lindsay Hunter or Ben Wallace.

The games between Virginia Union (Oakley) and Hampton (Mahorn) were off the chain.



[Edited by - misterearl on 03-23-2007 3:52 PM]
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3/23/2007  8:09 PM
Posted by misterearl:

JoeC - except for the fact Avis Wyatt's offensive (jump-shooting) game is more developed

I'll take your word for it, I've never seen him play. But I know that Balkman's jumper wasn't known as a strength coming out of college and he looks comfortable taking them in the NBA. Actually I think Isiah pointed that out on the Balkman portion of the pre-game, stating "he is doing some things we didn't think he could do".

Either way, I've never seen him so I'll reserve judgment.
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3/23/2007  9:53 PM
With that said, my man (since high school) David Lee should shut it down

The Knicks are simply have too many guys banged up

what is the rumor about the Knicks having the inside track on the big man from Kentucky?
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With that said, my man (since high school) David Lee should shut it down

The Knicks are simply have too many guys banged up

what is the rumor about the Knicks having the inside track on the big man from Kentucky?

Signed him today to a two year deal. Randolph Morris.
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3/23/2007  10:04 PM
JoeC - you are indeed the man. I've been travelling an just got in. Thank you for the information. Just caught the Randolph Morris thread.

Outstanding move by the Knicks front office.

The idea that Isiah has changed the Knicks culture, as described by Mark Cuban, makes a signing like this evidence that New York is on the correct path.

This could get interesting. Morris in Summer League should be fun to watch, alongside a recovering Lee.

[Edited by - misterearl on 03-23-2007 10:09 PM]
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3/23/2007  10:10 PM
The search for a lead guard just got more intense.

I miss Rick Brunson, Rod Strickland and Dean Meminger
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Code - who sez I don't watch any college hoops? The first clue on Wyatt came from my nephew, who got me to watch him in person down in Ettrick VA.

[Edited by - misterearl on 03-23-2007 3:52 PM]

Thats great. What do you think of his handle? Can he go left?
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3/24/2007  9:21 AM
Code - he reminds me a bit of The Iceman, but you KNOW that is too lofty an example to offer to a college player. My take on a player from Division 2 is that his "stock" is devalued for the level of competition, but hey, the greatest receiver of all-time, Jerry Rice, played Division 1AA so go figure...

Avis has enough of a handle to negotiate traffic. Left or right.

Excuse me while I peruse the point guards. As someone said in another universe, "the acquisition of Randolph just accelerated the Knicks offseason plans"

But as with Jackie Butler, DerMarr Johnson, Ime Udoka (getting minutes with Cleveland) and the dearly departed Qyntel Woods, Isiah has shown he don't need no steenkin' draft.

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3/24/2007  9:57 AM
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Code - he reminds me a bit of The Iceman, but you KNOW that is too lofty an example to offer to a college player. My take on a player from Division 2 is that his "stock" is devalued for the level of competition, but hey, the greatest receiver of all-time, Jerry Rice, played Division 1AA so go figure...

Avis has enough of a handle to negotiate traffic. Left or right.

Excuse me while I peruse the point guards. As someone said in another universe, "the acquisition of Randolph just accelerated the Knicks offseason plans"

But as with Jackie Butler, DerMarr Johnson, Ime Udoka (getting minutes with Cleveland) and the dearly departed Qyntel Woods, Isiah has shown he don't need no steenkin' draft.

This guys never stick. They cannot show any tricks.
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