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s3231
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2/28/2007  10:02 PM
Eesh, that was ugly.

On the other hand, this is why I wanted Gerald Green instead of Frye in that draft...

Celts blow, but since I go to college in MA, I've pretty much gotten used to watching them. They are fun to watch because they at least put out an effort on both ends of the floor.

If the Knicks actually did that for a whole game, we wouldn't have to come back down 20.
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2/28/2007  10:02 PM
We have to stop losing games like this. That's all I'm gonna say.
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2/28/2007  10:03 PM
Posted by Rich:
Posted by BlueSeats:
Posted by Rich:

btw, That WORST team in the league played w/o Pierce for like a month.


Are you saying the Knicks foolishly underestimated them and gave the game away in the first half?

They sucked.

But are you saying they aren't affected by not having Lee, Craw, let alone Nate?


Are you saying games like this aren't familiar to us?
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2/28/2007  10:03 PM
Why did balman only get 6 minutes?
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2/28/2007  10:03 PM
Posted by Rich:
Posted by BlueSeats:
Posted by Rich:

btw, That WORST team in the league played w/o Pierce for like a month.


Are you saying the Knicks foolishly underestimated them and gave the game away in the first half?

They sucked.

But are you saying they aren't affected by not having Lee, Craw, let alone Nate?

Is that an excuse for giving no effort in the first half?

Would they have had a very good chance of winning this game if they had?

So why make excuses about who wasn't there, when who was there was more than enough?
If it didn’t work in Phoenix with Nash and Stoutamire... it’s just not a winning formula. It’s an entertaining formula, but not a winning one. - Derek Harper talking about D'Antoni's System
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2/28/2007  10:04 PM
Posted by BlueSeats:
Posted by Rich:
Posted by BlueSeats:
Posted by Rich:

btw, That WORST team in the league played w/o Pierce for like a month.


Are you saying the Knicks foolishly underestimated them and gave the game away in the first half?

They sucked.

But are you saying they aren't affected by not having Lee, Craw, let alone Nate?


Are you saying games like this aren't familiar to us?

yes, it seems like every single day one of their leaders is lost for the season to an injury and they have to figure out how to play without him, while also missing their leading rebounder.
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2/28/2007  10:05 PM
Posted by islesfan:
Posted by Rich:
Posted by BlueSeats:
Posted by Rich:

btw, That WORST team in the league played w/o Pierce for like a month.


Are you saying the Knicks foolishly underestimated them and gave the game away in the first half?

They sucked.

But are you saying they aren't affected by not having Lee, Craw, let alone Nate?

Is that an excuse for giving no effort in the first half?

Would they have had a very good chance of winning this game if they had?

So why make excuses about who wasn't there, when who was there was more than enough?

Yeah it wasn't like the team didn't have the lead a few times in the game. This team has been fooling the Lovers all yr.
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2/28/2007  10:05 PM
you know what. I really really hope that by some fluke this team makes the playoffs. because when they get there they will be handed such a lopsided, demoralizing beat down by a superior team, a team that plays hard for 48 minutes no matter what, especially in the playoffs. maybe that's what it will take to force this team to see what it means to play hard and play hard all the time. they'll see that their tricks won't work against consistent teams, if you fall by 20 to detroit or washington or chicago in the first half, you're staying down by 20. they need to get blown out and swept, maybe it will finally force them to look hard at themselves and finally question that what they believe is playing hard is in reality nothing
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2/28/2007  10:06 PM
Posted by islesfan:
Posted by Rich:
Posted by islesfan:

Knicks come out with no effort and fall behind big.

Knicks make a comeback to make it a game.

Knicks lose.

Where have I heard that one before?

From the guy who said Curry is never double-teamed, let alone triple-teamed, down the stretch.

Who said that?

I suggest you go find the quote if you think it was me.

http://ultimateknicks.com/forum/topic.asp?t=20291&page=2
Posted by islesfan:

He's getting double and tripled team even when Crawford is dribbling the clock down and not even thinking about getting the ball to Curry?

Interesting.

One game that is representative of the majority is a good example.

One game that isn't close to being representative of the majority is a bad example.

I'm not going to say it again.

So it only counts when Craw is in the game?
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2/28/2007  10:06 PM
Posted by BlueSeats:
Posted by Rich:
Posted by BlueSeats:
Posted by Rich:

btw, That WORST team in the league played w/o Pierce for like a month.


Are you saying the Knicks foolishly underestimated them and gave the game away in the first half?

They sucked.

But are you saying they aren't affected by not having Lee, Craw, let alone Nate?


Are you saying games like this aren't familiar to us?

Where did I say that?

But w/o Lee, Craw, and Nate (he doesn't play, but he would have tonight), there margin for error is attenuated.
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2/28/2007  10:08 PM
Posted by islesfan:
Posted by Rich:
Posted by BlueSeats:
Posted by Rich:

btw, That WORST team in the league played w/o Pierce for like a month.


Are you saying the Knicks foolishly underestimated them and gave the game away in the first half?

They sucked.

But are you saying they aren't affected by not having Lee, Craw, let alone Nate?

Is that an excuse for giving no effort in the first half?

Would they have had a very good chance of winning this game if they had?

So why make excuses about who wasn't there, when who was there was more than enough?

Dude, as I've said repeatedly, there are no excuses in life.
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2/28/2007  10:08 PM
Lets face it, they came into this game feeling sorry for themselves. Not playing Balkman any real minutes hurt also.
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2/28/2007  10:08 PM
Posted by Rich:
Posted by islesfan:
Posted by Rich:
Posted by islesfan:

Knicks come out with no effort and fall behind big.

Knicks make a comeback to make it a game.

Knicks lose.

Where have I heard that one before?

From the guy who said Curry is never double-teamed, let alone triple-teamed, down the stretch.

Who said that?

I suggest you go find the quote if you think it was me.

http://ultimateknicks.com/forum/topic.asp?t=20291&page=2
Posted by islesfan:

He's getting double and tripled team even when Crawford is dribbling the clock down and not even thinking about getting the ball to Curry?

Interesting.

One game that is representative of the majority is a good example.

One game that isn't close to being representative of the majority is a bad example.

I'm not going to say it again.

So it only counts when Craw is in the game?

Do yourself a favor and read the entire context of that post.

You might even be able to answer your own question.
If it didn’t work in Phoenix with Nash and Stoutamire... it’s just not a winning formula. It’s an entertaining formula, but not a winning one. - Derek Harper talking about D'Antoni's System
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2/28/2007  10:09 PM
Posted by Rich:
Posted by islesfan:
Posted by Rich:
Posted by BlueSeats:
Posted by Rich:

btw, That WORST team in the league played w/o Pierce for like a month.


Are you saying the Knicks foolishly underestimated them and gave the game away in the first half?

They sucked.

But are you saying they aren't affected by not having Lee, Craw, let alone Nate?

Is that an excuse for giving no effort in the first half?

Would they have had a very good chance of winning this game if they had?

So why make excuses about who wasn't there, when who was there was more than enough?

Dude, as I've said repeatedly, there are no excuses in life.

So why are you making one?
But are you saying they aren't affected by not having Lee, Craw, let alone Nate?
If it didn’t work in Phoenix with Nash and Stoutamire... it’s just not a winning formula. It’s an entertaining formula, but not a winning one. - Derek Harper talking about D'Antoni's System
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2/28/2007  10:10 PM
this is a game they could have used Jamal's late game play in.

but hey, no excuses, EVER.
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2/28/2007  10:10 PM
Posted by islesfan:
Posted by Rich:
Posted by islesfan:
Posted by Rich:
Posted by islesfan:

Knicks come out with no effort and fall behind big.

Knicks make a comeback to make it a game.

Knicks lose.

Where have I heard that one before?

From the guy who said Curry is never double-teamed, let alone triple-teamed, down the stretch.

Who said that?

I suggest you go find the quote if you think it was me.

http://ultimateknicks.com/forum/topic.asp?t=20291&page=2
Posted by islesfan:

He's getting double and tripled team even when Crawford is dribbling the clock down and not even thinking about getting the ball to Curry?

Interesting.

One game that is representative of the majority is a good example.

One game that isn't close to being representative of the majority is a bad example.

I'm not going to say it again.

So it only counts when Craw is in the game?

Do yourself a favor and read the entire context of that post.

You might even be able to answer your own question.

Here's the context. You responded to this post:
Posted by Rich:
Posted by islesfan:
Posted by Rich:

You waive your right for a response when you failed to acknowledge your double standard.

LMAO Right. You don't think that I could have thrown out his entire season from the start? I was trying to be nice.

Oh no, you're right, I knew Curry has been just so dominant at the end of games all season and that it's been him and not really Crawford that takes all the big shots at the end of games.

Geez, that's what I get or trying to take it easy on you by giving you one game when his entire season was an obvious example.

One game that is representative of the majority is a good example.

One game that isn't close to being representative of the majority is a bad example.

Ok, your change of subject is over. Now go find the games this season where Curry has been the go to guy.

You don't watch the games, do you? He gets double and triple teamed.

Does one game matter or not?
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2/28/2007  10:11 PM
Posted by islesfan:
Posted by Rich:
Posted by islesfan:
Posted by Rich:
Posted by BlueSeats:
Posted by Rich:

btw, That WORST team in the league played w/o Pierce for like a month.


Are you saying the Knicks foolishly underestimated them and gave the game away in the first half?

They sucked.

But are you saying they aren't affected by not having Lee, Craw, let alone Nate?

Is that an excuse for giving no effort in the first half?

Would they have had a very good chance of winning this game if they had?

So why make excuses about who wasn't there, when who was there was more than enough?

Dude, as I've said repeatedly, there are no excuses in life.

So why are you making one?
But are you saying they aren't affected by not having Lee, Craw, let alone Nate?

Do you even know what excuse means?

I'm not giving them a pass. I am merely providing context.
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2/28/2007  10:16 PM
Posted by TrueBlue:
Posted by Bonn1997:

This Knick squad without Lee and Crawford is at best a .200 team. I'm not even sure they'd ever win actually.


I disagree not when you have EY Curry as the franchise of this team on it.
I can't tell if you're joking or serious
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2/28/2007  10:16 PM
Posted by Rich:
Posted by islesfan:
Posted by Rich:
Posted by islesfan:
Posted by Rich:
Posted by islesfan:

Knicks come out with no effort and fall behind big.

Knicks make a comeback to make it a game.

Knicks lose.

Where have I heard that one before?

From the guy who said Curry is never double-teamed, let alone triple-teamed, down the stretch.

Who said that?

I suggest you go find the quote if you think it was me.

http://ultimateknicks.com/forum/topic.asp?t=20291&page=2
Posted by islesfan:

He's getting double and tripled team even when Crawford is dribbling the clock down and not even thinking about getting the ball to Curry?

Interesting.

One game that is representative of the majority is a good example.

One game that isn't close to being representative of the majority is a bad example.

I'm not going to say it again.

So it only counts when Craw is in the game?

Do yourself a favor and read the entire context of that post.

You might even be able to answer your own question.

Here's the context. You responded to this post:
Posted by Rich:
Posted by islesfan:
Posted by Rich:

You waive your right for a response when you failed to acknowledge your double standard.

LMAO Right. You don't think that I could have thrown out his entire season from the start? I was trying to be nice.

Oh no, you're right, I knew Curry has been just so dominant at the end of games all season and that it's been him and not really Crawford that takes all the big shots at the end of games.

Geez, that's what I get or trying to take it easy on you by giving you one game when his entire season was an obvious example.

One game that is representative of the majority is a good example.

One game that isn't close to being representative of the majority is a bad example.

Ok, your change of subject is over. Now go find the games this season where Curry has been the go to guy.

You don't watch the games, do you? He gets double and triple teamed.

Does one game matter or not?

I'm still trying to find the part that's applicable to tonight's game.

I mentioned Crawford dribbling out the clock at the end of close games with Curry not even getting a look because they aren't going to him.
He's getting double and tripled team even when Crawford is dribbling the clock down and not even thinking about getting the ball to Curry?

What exactly are you trying to turn it into?
If it didn’t work in Phoenix with Nash and Stoutamire... it’s just not a winning formula. It’s an entertaining formula, but not a winning one. - Derek Harper talking about D'Antoni's System
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2/28/2007  10:17 PM
Posted by Rich:
Posted by islesfan:
Posted by Rich:
Posted by islesfan:
Posted by Rich:
Posted by BlueSeats:
Posted by Rich:

btw, That WORST team in the league played w/o Pierce for like a month.


Are you saying the Knicks foolishly underestimated them and gave the game away in the first half?

They sucked.

But are you saying they aren't affected by not having Lee, Craw, let alone Nate?

Is that an excuse for giving no effort in the first half?

Would they have had a very good chance of winning this game if they had?

So why make excuses about who wasn't there, when who was there was more than enough?

Dude, as I've said repeatedly, there are no excuses in life.

So why are you making one?
But are you saying they aren't affected by not having Lee, Craw, let alone Nate?

Do you even know what excuse means?

I'm not giving them a pass. I am merely providing context.

Sure, it's right here.
But are you saying they aren't affected by not having Lee, Craw, let alone Nate?

Do you even know what the difference is between making an excuse and giving a pass is?
If it didn’t work in Phoenix with Nash and Stoutamire... it’s just not a winning formula. It’s an entertaining formula, but not a winning one. - Derek Harper talking about D'Antoni's System
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