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2/9/2007  6:01 PM
Wow. David Lee gives Isiah a vote of confidence and Curry explains his comment. That should clear it up right?
I honestly feel like we're a better team with him as the head coach.
Curry said Isiah as the head coach is good for the Knicks. He was looking out for the Knicks. Thanks for the quote TMS.
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2/9/2007  6:13 PM
obviously anyone who says something that contradicts your speculation must be lying.
Posted by islesfan:
Posted by TMS:

isles, you attached your analysis on Curry's intentions behind making his original comments, & now completely dismiss Curry's own explanation aimed at clarifying the reasoning behind making those comments. don't u think that's a little unfair?

btw, who the hell is Jim Jones?

His comments published today were obviously spin control because his initial comments could easily appear to be a ultimatum to the psycho Dolan, through the media no less which is the ultimate no no.

Jim Jones was a lot like Isiah.

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2/9/2007  6:18 PM
Posted by TMS:

isles, you attached your analysis on Curry's intentions behind making his original comments, & now completely dismiss Curry's own explanation aimed at clarifying the reasoning behind making those comments. don't u think that's a little unfair?

btw, who the hell is Jim Jones?

Jim Jones is the cult leader, who lead a mass suicide.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jim_Jones
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2/9/2007  6:19 PM
Posted by newyorknewyork:

Posted by TMS:

isles, you attached your analysis on Curry's intentions behind making his original comments, & now completely dismiss Curry's own explanation aimed at clarifying the reasoning behind making those comments. don't u think that's a little unfair?

btw, who the hell is Jim Jones?

Jim Jones is the cult leader, who lead a mass suicide.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jim_Jones

You left out the part about the Kool-Aid.
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2/9/2007  6:47 PM
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2/9/2007  6:53 PM
Posted by islesfan:
Posted by newyorknewyork:

Posted by TMS:

isles, you attached your analysis on Curry's intentions behind making his original comments, & now completely dismiss Curry's own explanation aimed at clarifying the reasoning behind making those comments. don't u think that's a little unfair?

btw, who the hell is Jim Jones?

Jim Jones is the cult leader, who lead a mass suicide.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jim_Jones

You left out the part about the Kool-Aid.

lol... oh ok, i've heard of that poisonous kool-aid stunt... did the rest of his cult follow him or was it just him who took the swig & croaked?
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2/10/2007  5:17 AM
You were saying he doesn't care about the Knicks, he only cares about Isiah. Thats not what he was trying to say at all.

Well, obviously I wasn't the only one who took him the wrong way then. His own coach did too.
"It's great when the players feel that way. We're a close team, a team that sticks together. We believe in one another," he said. "I thanked him for his support, but I reminded him that it was about the Knicks. It's not about me; it's about us. I'm glad he feels that way and I'm glad our players feel that way, but we have a long ways to go."
http://www.nypost.com/seven/02092007/sports/knicks/isiah_lauds_steady_eddy_knicks_brian_lewis.htm
I only posted how you sound and if its starting to get old its your fault. I never called you out. You keep say the same thing over and over and for some reason you think I am calling you out? Your routine is getting tired and its obviously going nowhere so I'm done with these types of responses.

Good. I'm tired of you making me have to make them.
Who questioned anything about your right? Sorry, that was the last one but I had to cause of your pointless reply. And yes, thats a shot at you
My "pointless" reply was in response to a pointless post, you really didn't give me a whole lot of room to work.
Oh, so you knowingly made it up? Guess its easy for you. Ok, this is the last one.
Hey, I learned from the master, who's been doing it to me for more than 2 months now. You know, you're a great teacher. And very persistent, too.

That Isiah has really helped him and he is loyal to him. The whole "trying to get out" is a exaggeration and unnecessary so I can ignore it.
I once again refer you the fact that Isiah had to tell him it is about the team and not about Isiah(whether he meant it or not)-and the fact that Isiah told that to the press instead of writing off what Eddy said.
It is asking for much because being able to handle yourself in front of the NY media is NO JOKE. It is the hardset thing in the world. If the NY media wants to bury you, there is nothing you can do about it.
If the NY media, that big and scary monster, is so intimidating to these guys, then perhaps they should just shut up? You can't tell me that these guys don't have some sort of governor cable from their brain to their mouth.

[Edited by - joec32033 on 02-10-2007 05:19 AM]
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2/10/2007  5:49 AM
I love it when you guys bite my style^^^^^.

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Posted by oohah:

I love it when you guys bite my style^^^^^.

oohah

I just follow the leader, man.......um...by that I mean the guy I'm responding too. But at least you didn't copyright it like Riley copyrighted the word "threepeat".
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Posted by joec32033:
Posted by oohah:

I love it when you guys bite my style^^^^^.

oohah

I just follow the leader, man.......um...by that I mean the guy I'm responding too. But at least you didn't copyright it like Riley copyrighted the word "threepeat".

Naw dude, my steelo is open source!

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2/10/2007  6:25 AM
Posted by joec32033:
You were saying he doesn't care about the Knicks, he only cares about Isiah. Thats not what he was trying to say at all.

Well, obviously I wasn't the only one who took him the wrong way then. His own coach did too.
"It's great when the players feel that way. We're a close team, a team that sticks together. We believe in one another," he said. "I thanked him for his support, but I reminded him that it was about the Knicks. It's not about me; it's about us. I'm glad he feels that way and I'm glad our players feel that way, but we have a long ways to go."
http://www.nypost.com/seven/02092007/sports/knicks/isiah_lauds_steady_eddy_knicks_brian_lewis.htm
I only posted how you sound and if its starting to get old its your fault. I never called you out. You keep say the same thing over and over and for some reason you think I am calling you out? Your routine is getting tired and its obviously going nowhere so I'm done with these types of responses.

Good. I'm tired of you making me have to make them.
Who questioned anything about your right? Sorry, that was the last one but I had to cause of your pointless reply. And yes, thats a shot at you
My "pointless" reply was in response to a pointless post, you really didn't give me a whole lot of room to work.
Oh, so you knowingly made it up? Guess its easy for you. Ok, this is the last one.
Hey, I learned from the master, who's been doing it to me for more than 2 months now. You know, you're a great teacher. And very persistent, too.

That Isiah has really helped him and he is loyal to him. The whole "trying to get out" is a exaggeration and unnecessary so I can ignore it.
I once again refer you the fact that Isiah had to tell him it is about the team and not about Isiah(whether he meant it or not)-and the fact that Isiah told that to the press instead of writing off what Eddy said.
It is asking for much because being able to handle yourself in front of the NY media is NO JOKE. It is the hardset thing in the world. If the NY media wants to bury you, there is nothing you can do about it.
If the NY media, that big and scary monster, is so intimidating to these guys, then perhaps they should just shut up? You can't tell me that these guys don't have some sort of governor cable from their brain to their mouth.

[Edited by - joec32033 on 02-10-2007 05:19 AM]
Its amazing how I get pulled into being petty when i argue with you. I'm going to hold off replying in kind and sound juvenile. Did you see Eddy's clarification? That should tell you how wrong you were. Look for a problem when there is no problem.
I honestly feel like we're a better team with him as the head coach. He's got a way of reaching out to the players and making them feel good, giving them confidence and believing in them."

"I don't think that was an aggressive comment. That's just how I feel," Curry said. "I'm out here with him every day in the trenches getting better. I realize I don't see how I could do it without him."
Curry said Isiah as the head coach is good for the Knicks. He was looking out for the Knicks not what you had said earlier that he did not care about the Knicks. So do away with your bs interpretation. Curry was trying to say we are a better team with Isiah not that he does not care about the Knicks. But I have a feeling his clarification will not count with you because you will in classic form build a theory on one quote and totally ignore another quote just to stick to your theory.
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2/10/2007  4:17 PM
Posted by islesfan:

Hey Curry, STFU. If you really wanted Isiah to stay you'd be putting your arms up on defense and rebounding like you actually gave a sh!t.

Secondly, who the F do you think you are?!? You don't have the juice to make statements like this. You're not an irreplaceable franchise player. You're like the 8th best center in the league. The fans didn't think that much of you based on the all star voting and neither did the east coaches. All that crap your teammates spewed must have really gone to your head.

I'm seriously getting tired of listening to these idiots.

Good players do this all the time to keep the coaches they want or even to get rid of coaches they don't like(eg Ewing & Nelson). This is nothing new, get over it.
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2/10/2007  5:24 PM
Posted by newyorknewyork:

Posted by TMS:

isles, you attached your analysis on Curry's intentions behind making his original comments, & now completely dismiss Curry's own explanation aimed at clarifying the reasoning behind making those comments. don't u think that's a little unfair?

btw, who the hell is Jim Jones?

Jim Jones is the cult leader, who lead a mass suicide.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jim_Jones

Dipset...I had to say that. But I also have to say for I do not think any one could have done THAT MUCH of better job with the Knicks, than Zeke.

Before I recieve all the sacrificial post hear me out

> The Knicks cap situation was already horrendous

> New York is the business capital and their Fans are spoiled

> You cannot rebuild in New York and even if we could Dolan would not condone it

Alot of ppl say, of we should of tanked we could have got Lebron, Dwight Howard, etc. Um...STFU. The Knicks is one of the most prestigious franchise the NBA has. They have many loyal fans back from when the Knicks first came about. You can't imply a losing mentality in this type of atmosphere. Isiah brought in good players that just do not have great chemistry yet.You have to remember alot of these players have not played with each other for 2 seasons yet. Remember the season when Zeke left and the Pacers had 62 wins. Zeke developed those players and that was the finished product. Look @ the pacers now.
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2/11/2007  5:25 AM
Its amazing how I get pulled into being petty when i argue with you. I'm going to hold off replying in kind and sound juvenile. Did you see Eddy's clarification? That should tell you how wrong you were. Look for a problem when there is no problem.

I always take clarifications with a game of salt. Ty Thomas had a "clarified" his remarks, too. Hey I can handle being wrong about this too when everyone including Curry's coach "misunderstood" his remarks. But I don't think I am wrong, I think it at the Garden spin control is a way of life.

You don't think it's a problem when a player like Curry says something like that? Take out the fact that it is Curry and for the sake of argument say it was Mike Miller(a guy who has been in the league a while, and really is just starting to really break out) who said that if the coach leaves he wants to be traded. That's ok? I'm sorry, but I don't see it, IMO. I wouldn't get behind Miller, either.
Curry said Isiah as the head coach is good for the Knicks. He was looking out for the Knicks not what you had said earlier that he did not care about the Knicks. So do away with your bs interpretation. Curry was trying to say we are a better team with Isiah not that he does not care about the Knicks. But I have a feeling his clarification will not count with you because you will in classic form build a theory on one quote and totally ignore another quote just to stick to your theory.

Silver cut the crap insults. Taken as a whole the comments-while not the worst ever-are still not good. While you tell me what I choose to ignore, you're ignoring the absolute main point of the whole thing. To Eddy at least, this whole thing-at least on Friday-was about Isiah and not the Knicks. I am not buying fully into his "clarification". That is what PR guys are for. Do I hope that Curry's explanation is the truth? Sure. But I also see that this wasn't in a tense or chaotic situation(say after a big loss or a big win where emotions are high)-it was at practice in he middle of 4 days off. Curry never said he was misquoted, but that he was "misunderstood".

While it was good to hear in Curry's "explanation" that it was about the team, I have to take it with a grain of salt, because that is exactly what PR spin is for. No matter what he says after the fact, whether I believe it or not, good or bad, there is always a sliver of doubt whether it was him saying it or the Knicks speaking it through Curry's mouth.
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2/11/2007  7:19 AM
Posted by joec32033:
Its amazing how I get pulled into being petty when i argue with you. I'm going to hold off replying in kind and sound juvenile. Did you see Eddy's clarification? That should tell you how wrong you were. Look for a problem when there is no problem.

I always take clarifications with a game of salt. Ty Thomas had a "clarified" his remarks, too. Hey I can handle being wrong about this too when everyone including Curry's coach "misunderstood" his remarks. But I don't think I am wrong, I think it at the Garden spin control is a way of life.

You don't think it's a problem when a player like Curry says something like that? Take out the fact that it is Curry and for the sake of argument say it was Mike Miller(a guy who has been in the league a while, and really is just starting to really break out) who said that if the coach leaves he wants to be traded. That's ok? I'm sorry, but I don't see it, IMO. I wouldn't get behind Miller, either.
Curry said Isiah as the head coach is good for the Knicks. He was looking out for the Knicks not what you had said earlier that he did not care about the Knicks. So do away with your bs interpretation. Curry was trying to say we are a better team with Isiah not that he does not care about the Knicks. But I have a feeling his clarification will not count with you because you will in classic form build a theory on one quote and totally ignore another quote just to stick to your theory.

Silver cut the crap insults. Taken as a whole the comments-while not the worst ever-are still not good. While you tell me what I choose to ignore, you're ignoring the absolute main point of the whole thing. To Eddy at least, this whole thing-at least on Friday-was about Isiah and not the Knicks. I am not buying fully into his "clarification". That is what PR guys are for. Do I hope that Curry's explanation is the truth? Sure. But I also see that this wasn't in a tense or chaotic situation(say after a big loss or a big win where emotions are high)-it was at practice in he middle of 4 days off. Curry never said he was misquoted, but that he was "misunderstood".

While it was good to hear in Curry's "explanation" that it was about the team, I have to take it with a grain of salt, because that is exactly what PR spin is for. No matter what he says after the fact, whether I believe it or not, good or bad, there is always a sliver of doubt whether it was him saying it or the Knicks speaking it through Curry's mouth.
So now your argument is that Curry was doing spin control? Seriously, how do you know this? What are the chances? This has nothing to do with Eddy wanting to be selfish or "not care about the Knicks" like you said. This has to do with Isiah being a good motivator. The first time he said he would be trying to get out if Isiah was fired. Do you remember hearing that before? Maybe with Jermaine? I am not comparing the two players but I am comparing their responses. Isn't it possible that Isiah inspires players and they believe he is best for the team? Why does everything have to be a negative? Think about it without bias and you will see how his clarification applies.

The first time I read it I knew how Curry meant it. I never for one second thought Curry meant, "i dont care about the Knicks" by what he said. I never saw negative there. You did because you are "disappointed" in him for whatever reason. He even came out and said he was trying to say its best for the team. Now you say its spin control? Come on! Is it that hard to say your interpretation was wrong? Its not spin control. He was overzelous the first time and he cleared up any misconceptions. Thats how I saw it and called it from day one. I have never seen someone get into articles not about basketball. I can understand if this has to do with something about the lineup but you get riled up about quotes! And fyi, just saying something like "cut the insults crap" when there is no insult just angers the other guy making the post even more.
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12/15/2007  2:25 PM
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12/15/2007  2:43 PM
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12/15/2007  5:52 PM
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12/15/2007  6:11 PM
^Did Isiah get fired???
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12/15/2007  6:15 PM
Posted by Cookdcokehop:
Posted by newyorknewyork:

Posted by TMS:

isles, you attached your analysis on Curry's intentions behind making his original comments, & now completely dismiss Curry's own explanation aimed at clarifying the reasoning behind making those comments. don't u think that's a little unfair?

btw, who the hell is Jim Jones?

Jim Jones is the cult leader, who lead a mass suicide.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jim_Jones

Dipset...I had to say that. But I also have to say for I do not think any one could have done THAT MUCH of better job with the Knicks, than Zeke.

Before I recieve all the sacrificial post hear me out

> The Knicks cap situation was already horrendous

> New York is the business capital and their Fans are spoiled

> You cannot rebuild in New York and even if we could Dolan would not condone it

Alot of ppl say, of we should of tanked we could have got Lebron, Dwight Howard, etc. Um...STFU. The Knicks is one of the most prestigious franchise the NBA has. They have many loyal fans back from when the Knicks first came about. You can't imply a losing mentality in this type of atmosphere. Isiah brought in good players that just do not have great chemistry yet.You have to remember alot of these players have not played with each other for 2 seasons yet. Remember the season when Zeke left and the Pacers had 62 wins. Zeke developed those players and that was the finished product. Look @ the pacers now.

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No one wants to remember the Pacers 62 wins. Just about everything I'm reading on the forum is negitive and hat. Hey I'm very upset but I'm not gonna rage and ramp. There is another life besides basketball and the Knicks. When I've had enough I get upset and turn to something else or vent my opinion. But I'm not gonna be on the forum all day long venting how much I hate the Knicks or thier coach or certain players. No matter what you say these guys are set for life. Hey I went Christmas shopping today and had fun. I will watch the game tonight and root for my Knicks.

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