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Game Dreck: From the Tunnel to the cage! Isiah to face the music. (NYK vs IND)
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izybx
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11/4/2006  8:46 PM
Knicks from last year feel as if they did enough by coming back, show up lazy in the second half and get blown out.

I want to see who shows up this next half
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BlueSeats
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11/4/2006  8:47 PM
only 6 assists for the half. that's awful.
TrueBlue
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11/4/2006  8:51 PM
Closed the half well.
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11/4/2006  8:51 PM
tinsley has more assists than our whole team.
Caseloads
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11/4/2006  8:51 PM
how is balkman playing? he seemingly needs more tick. what's up with channing? any improvement? curry seems to still not be getting the ball enough!
PhilinLA
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11/4/2006  8:53 PM
Posted by PresIke:
Posted by PhilinLA:
Posted by PresIke:
Posted by PhilinLA:

Where are the boos?

Umm, maybe people aren't quite as quick to the trigger as some of the Knick "faithful."

Some of y'all are like wolves surrounding the heard, just waiting for the kill.

We're down 8 points, not 28.
Dude. I'm an optimist and think we have a chance to win 40 or so this year. But I also believe in crowd feedback when there's not enough energy being shown.

Why? What is booing going to accomplish? I have always had an aversion to "boo birds." What's the point of booing your own team when you want them to win? I remember in 1996 when the Yankees traded for Graham Lloyd, who was suppossed to be good, but he sucked coming off an injury going into the playoffs. I was at a playoff game when Torre brought him into the game and suddenly fans started booing the guy. I was like, how is this suppossed to help the guy who we need to perform well? It's just seems so illogical to boo your own players, that whenever it happens I think it's ridiculous. Do fans honestly think the players don't know they are playing poorly and enjoy it. If you ever played competitive sports you know that losing is not fun. Please. Some fans can be just so self righteous.

Same deal with A-Rod and the insane fact that Yankee fans booed Giambi in his debut with the Yanks at the home opener (I was there) because they missed Tino Martinez. I see this kind of stuff is childish, hence my opposition to booing teams even when they suck. The fact that less fans come (this season's home opener is NOT sold out), is more than enough reason to let management know that fans are skeptical.
Booing sends a message to the team and to management that this just won't do. I'm not talking about booing ARod while he's having yet another Hall of Fame season, but basketball's a different sport, as is football and also hockey. Booing the effort of the team is different than booing a player, which can be counterproductive, but the Knicks need to hear something sometimes when they are sleepwalking.
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PresIke
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11/4/2006  8:55 PM
Posted by islesfan:
Posted by PresIke:
Posted by islesfan:
Posted by PresIke:
Posted by PhilinLA:
Posted by PresIke:
Posted by PhilinLA:

Where are the boos?

Umm, maybe people aren't quite as quick to the trigger as some of the Knick "faithful."

Some of y'all are like wolves surrounding the heard, just waiting for the kill.

We're down 8 points, not 28.
Dude. I'm an optimist and think we have a chance to win 40 or so this year. But I also believe in crowd feedback when there's not enough energy being shown.

Why? What is booing going to accomplish? I have always had an aversion to "boo birds." What's the point of booing your own team when you want them to win? I remember in 1996 when the Yankees traded for Graham Lloyd, who was suppossed to be good, but he sucked coming off an injury going into the playoffs. I was at a playoff game when Torre brought him into the game and suddenly fans started booing the guy. I was like, how is this suppossed to help the guy who we need to perform well? It's just seems so illogical to boo your own players, that whenever it happens I think it's ridiculous. Do fans honestly think the players don't know they are playing poorly and enjoy it. If you ever played competitive sports you know that losing is not fun. Please. Some fans can be just so self righteous.

Same deal with A-Rod and the insane fact that Yankee fans booed Giambi in his debut with the Yanks at the home opener (I was there) because they missed Tino Martinez. I see this kind of stuff is childish, hence my opposition to booing teams even when they suck. The fact that less fans come (this season's home opener is NOT sold out), is more than enough reason to let management know that fans are skeptical.

It will let the Knicks players know that their effort sucks.

It they're honestly trying and the effort is there I agree with you, booing is stupid. But if they're hardly trying on defense and they're showing no passion then booing is not only justified but should be expected.


Isle, c'mon man you're a smart guy. Do you hoenstly think that the players don't know that they are stinking it up, and need fans to remind them? These are grown men, not 2 year olds. Anyway, many psychologists today would argue that negative reinforcement is not very effective when it comes to improving productivity, and in fact has a good chance of leading to the opposite effect. That's the argument against Larry Brown, of course. Tough love only works when the love is evident.

Anyway, hard to deny that the team is playing poorly. If this continues soon things may change in the way many have hoped.

There's a difference between knowing you're stinking it up and caring whether you're stinking it up.

I didn't mean to suggest that fans booing was an attempt in negative reinforcement. I'm suggesting that the fans have a right to boo if they feel that the players are cheating them out of their money with their lack of effort.

Fair enough. I guess we'll just have to agree to disagree.

Team did a decent job of fighting back into the game. Curious to see how they come out in the second half.

Forum Po Po and #33 for a reason...
BigC
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11/4/2006  8:57 PM
Posted by BlueSeats:

tinsley has more assists than our whole team.
Tinsley is a real point guard. If he stayed healthy he would be ranked In my opinion among the top point guards. However he can never stay healthy.



[Edited by - BigC on 11-04-2006 8:58 PM]
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Travla
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11/4/2006  8:58 PM
Balkman need more PT, he cause havoc out there with his hustle
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Travla
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11/4/2006  8:59 PM
I'd like to see Balkman, Curry and Lee up front for short runs
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11/4/2006  9:02 PM
we don't have any heads out there
K22
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11/4/2006  9:02 PM
Wow. Zeke looks rather unhappy right now.
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Travla
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11/4/2006  9:04 PM
Knicks starting slow again!!
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anrst
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11/4/2006  9:05 PM
Posted by K22:

Wow. Zeke looks rather unhappy right now.

if we lost, Zeke will say he's "satisfied" because 1 for 3 is a .333 batting average
TrueBlue
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11/4/2006  9:05 PM
The starters don't even try to play defense
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K22
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11/4/2006  9:06 PM
Keep in mind that Indy still hasn't been to the line yet.
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anrst
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11/4/2006  9:07 PM
ah, that was NO foul
PhilinLA
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11/4/2006  9:08 PM
Play D!
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BlueSeats
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11/4/2006  9:08 PM
Posted by anrst:
Posted by K22:

Wow. Zeke looks rather unhappy right now.

if we lost, Zeke will say he's "satisfied" because 1 for 3 is a .333 batting average

I'm suspect nixluva is drafting up some excuses for him right now.

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11/4/2006  9:09 PM
QRich is really a different player this year.
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Game Dreck: From the Tunnel to the cage! Isiah to face the music. (NYK vs IND)

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