Posted by Anji:

Wow.............. now it's time to attack the Rookies!!! LOL. How much did I hear that only Marbs/Francis/Rose/ect hated brown. THE WHOLE TEAM HATED BROWN.

Posted by islesfan:

That's really sad to hear. I thought Frye and Lee (Nate is a lost cause) had more class than to pile onto the Company line.

Frye played 24 min a night and probably would have averaged more if not for his season ending injury. That's 4 minutes less than the #1 overall pick and the same as the #2 pick in his draft class. Yeah, LB really screwed him with a lack of minutes.

Lee was the 30th pick and he still averaged 17 min and played in 67 games. How many picks that low get that much run in their rookie year?

I'm sure we'll be hearing everyone else say the same things (I don't think they're allowed to say anything else, especially with the omnipresent Knicks PR person accompanying them to every interview, Company policy you understand) for the next 4 months. All I can say to that is, you better put up when the time comes or else.

Posted by holfresh:


I am in the Caribbean sucking down my share of rum punches and Cuban stogies and couldn't resist a peek at what's happening...Seems like Larry versus Marbs was only the tip of the iceberg...Funny that people here still questioning whether or not Larry wanted Franchise or JRose even when the owner of the team said the Coach "begged" for these players...That being said, I not a Larry fan as many of you guys know but I must say it's a little b bit troubling seeing the comments from last year's rooks about their former coach...I would have hoped they would have shown a bit more class than they are currently displaying...That said as well, I'm looking forward to a fresh start with positives going into the new year...Lots of you guys think I was nuts and and just an all out one track Brown hater...Well maybe thats true, but seems like I had lots of company in the Knick organization....


Ok..I'm going back to the bar now guys...Catch ya when I get back....

Making a toast to the Knicks winning 43 games in 2006-7....

HOLLA!!!!!!

Posted by Bonn1997:

I think 'rookies' should be exempt from the question of 'starting jobs' and 'minutes played'. I mean afterall, they were rooks!

Hi, Larry!

Posted by nixluva:

Even if Larry had done everything right this team was going to have its struggles, cuz it's a young team. Sure we had some vets but most of those guys are career bench guys or too old to be a starter anymore. NOW we have young players who should be able to step up and assume bigger roles, but its still a process to get them to the point where they can win consistently. BUT I do expect progress this year. They may not win every game they should but I do expect that they'll be in more games and be competitive, which wasn't the case last year.

All Larry had to do was take a gradual approach to turning this team into the type of team he wanted. He knew that we didn't have a lot of the kind of guys he wants, but he lacked patience and I'm not sure why he had to be so hardcore and inflexible. Isiah doesn't have the resume of LB, but that doesn't mean he can't get results.

Posted by oohah:

earl, Holfresh, Ki, ooha, RV, everyone and anyone else from the "this was all Larry's fault" camp can all agree on some of those simple things right?

Please don't lump me into a camp. Those of us you listed have different takes on what LB did wrong and the amount of blame that goes to him. I believe where we all agree is that LB does not deserve a pass.

Curry, JJ and Mo Taylor will all show up to camp in great, NBA basketball shape right?
That Curry and Frye will put a body on a man everytime a shot goes up because thats what good rebounders do right?
That Nate will hustle down court after he hits a shot so he doesnt get beat in transition showing off for the crowd right?
That Nate will pressure the ball because thats what a 5'9 guard should do right?
That Francis will gladly share minutes because its the right thing to do right? Work and earn his floor time.. right?
That a FranBury backcourt will be focused on defense and making the whole team better right?

I mean, now that all the distractions and Larry negativity are gone I'm looking forward to all these things happening. Ive always thought this roster had a lot of talent. Now that nothing is holding them back it should be really interesting to see them take over.

No Fishmike, I don't think all that stuff will happen, that would be PERFECTION for this group. Hopefully some of it will happen, and that will be PROGRESS.

And that is what I am looking for now, progress, not perfection.

It wouldn't make much sense to have a team that showed virtually no progress, that actually REGRESSED in 2005-2006 to become perfect overnight, no matter who the coach is.

You know what I expect and will be happy with? Exactly what I would have been happy with even if stinky-butt LB came back.

Progress.

oohah

ooh ahh you think having guys play hard everynight, hustle back on D, Play d in the first place, instead of celebrating get back on D, boxing out and coming to camp in shape constitutes perfection? How low are you standards dude?

Posted by TMS:

i'll bet you any amount of dollars that if the supposed "leaders" on this team had bought into LB's methods right from the beginning, the team would've played ALOT better under his coaching... look at how the team tanked once Antonio Davis got traded away... that's about when the public feud between Starbury & LB reached toxic levels.

it's no wonder the young kids on this team have come out w/the balls to criticize a HOF coach when they themselves have absolutely no idea of what it takes to win at this level... they have nothing but selfish, me-first veteran role models to emulate... can you ever picture them saying the types of things they said about LB if someone like Charles Oakley or Larry Johnson were on this team? it would never happen... that in itself just makes me hate a certain someone even more.

Posted by Killa4luv:

If its anti-Larry it must be staged. If its anti-Steph/Isiah its from the heart.