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Bippity10
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5/31/2006  7:19 PM
Ooh ahh in all honesty my bitterness towards you(although it's bitterness with a smile) all stems from one post. A post where I literally spent 20 minutes trying to word it properly so that everyone understood that I think LB did an awful job. At some point in the post I used awful, ridiculous and then stated my mantra which I've said 1000 times that it's not LB it's the organization. You proceeded to call me an LB apologist for a while.

Second item of my sheer and utter anger was over the liar comments. I have gone on record over a 1000 times that my predictions are right just about as often as everyone else. None of us know what will happen. None of us are experts but like anyone else I have an educated guess. Now when I am right I will come on here and brag to high heaven about it. Kind of like I do when I win a bet with a friend. I brag and brag and we all laugh and laugh. I talk trash. Most of the men I hang out with do the same in return. When I lose a bet with a friend or have a wrong prediction I will blatantly come on and pretend that I never said it. Once again I could keep my mouth shut and pretend it never happened. Or I can bring it to the forefront and have fun with it. Most people know I'm joking and could give to flying f's about predictions. Some people are offended by this behavior. I understand this and from now on will be more serious with my predictions. For instance I predict that LB will not be our coach next year . Do you see the seriousness in that scowl. I am dead serious. Now if he is the coach next year I will change and not come on here and do what I normally do and pretend that I said otherwise.

As for goading your response. Yes, I clearly goaded your response. If you read the post, I was clearly trying to goad both of you because I enjoyed the reading. I could really care less about your guys argument. I just took Blueseats side because I knew you would be easier to goad because you are are normally po'd at someone.

And yes I do feel that some people consider me a lovable mascot os that's why they don't get bent out of shape. Orrrrrrrrr an alternative view. They probably know that I am joking.

Now you paint the picture of me being this horrible tyrant that goes around flaming and screaming at everyone. Yes fine. I apologized to you, I apologized to metssuck, I've apologized to blueseats I always apologize to people when I step out of line and they call me out. Because that's what adults do, they apologize when they are wrong. That's probably why I apologized to you at the time. Because at that moment I felt I was wrong and you were right. NOt ashamed of this. You can use that apology as your signature if that makes you feel better. But when I apologize it doesn't mean I feel that I am always wrong and you are always right, which seems to be your point. Unless of course my reading comprehension is poor(which is possible) because I skimmed your post. I figured you do it, maybe I should give it a try.

For this on the other hand I don't apologize to because I my opinion is the same. You read 30 posts from me about how I thought LB did an awful job. In the end your conclusion was that I was an LB lover. so I am to conclude you either didn't read the posts, wanted to flame me, were joking and wanted to get under my skin or have poor reading comprehension skills. That's my opinion. I will be the first to say that my misuse of smiley faces and poor grammar skills is why people like you(don't mean that as an insult) take sarcasm to seriously.

You can ask my bud Allanfan if this is true.

But in all honesty I don't care. I'm a liar, an LB lover. I'm a jerk. Whatever. I still love coming here and have great conversations with Everyone on the board. Well ALMOST EVERYONE.

By the way TMS I said Sweetney would become the next Elton Brand in style of play, not talent

[Edited by - Bippity10 on 05-31-2006 7:21 PM]

[Edited by - Bippity10 on 05-31-2006 7:26 PM]
I just hope that people will like me
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Bippity10
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5/31/2006  7:23 PM
I like being the lovable mascot.
I just hope that people will like me
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5/31/2006  7:25 PM
bippity and lb sitting in a tree...
Bippity10
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5/31/2006  7:29 PM
Posted by djsunyc:

bippity and lb sitting in a tree...

I hate you
I just hope that people will like me
Bippity10
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5/31/2006  7:31 PM
Wait let me re-write that. I hate you
I just hope that people will like me
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5/31/2006  7:31 PM
Posted by Bippity10:

Ooh ahh in all honesty my bitterness towards you(although it's bitterness with a smile) all stems from one post. A post where I literally spent 20 minutes trying to word it properly so that everyone understood that I think LB did an awful job. At some point in the post I used awful, ridiculous and then stated my mantra which I've said 1000 times that it's not LB it's the organization. You proceeded to call me an LB apologist for a while.

Second item of my sheer and utter anger was over the liar comments. I have gone on record over a 1000 times that my predictions are right just about as often as everyone else. None of us know what will happen. None of us are experts but like anyone else I have an educated guess. Now when I am right I will come on here and brag to high heaven about it. Kind of like I do when I win a bet with a friend. I brag and brag and we all laugh and laugh. I talk trash. Most of the men I hang out with do the same in return. When I lose a bet with a friend or have a wrong prediction I will blatantly come on and pretend that I never said it. Once again I could keep my mouth shut and pretend it never happened. Or I can bring it to the forefront and have fun with it. Most people know I'm joking and could give to flying f's about predictions. Some people are offended by this behavior. I understand this and from now on will be more serious with my predictions. For instance I predict that LB will not be our coach next year . Do you see the seriousness in that scowl. I am dead serious. Now if he is the coach next year I will change and not come on here and do what I normally do and pretend that I said otherwise.

As for goading your response. Yes, I clearly goaded your response. If you read the post, I was clearly trying to goad both of you because I enjoyed the reading. I could really care less about your guys argument. I just took Blueseats side because I knew you would be easier to goad because you are are normally po'd at someone.

And yes I do feel that some people consider me a lovable mascot os that's why they don't get bent out of shape. Orrrrrrrrr an alternative view. They probably know that I am joking.

Now you paint the picture of me being this horrible tyrant that goes around flaming and screaming at everyone. Yes fine. I apologized to you, I apologized to metssuck, I've apologized to blueseats I always apologize to people when I step out of line and they call me out. Because that's what adults do, they apologize when they are wrong. That's probably why I apologized to you at the time. Because at that moment I felt I was wrong and you were right. NOt ashamed of this. You can use that apology as your signature if that makes you feel better. But when I apologize it doesn't mean I feel that I am always wrong and you are always right, which seems to be your point. Unless of course my reading comprehension is poor(which is possible) because I skimmed your post. I figured you do it, maybe I should give it a try.

For this on the other hand I don't apologize to because I my opinion is the same. You read 30 posts from me about how I thought LB did an awful job. In the end your conclusion was that I was an LB lover. so I am to conclude you either didn't read the posts, wanted to flame me, were joking and wanted to get under my skin or have poor reading comprehension skills. That's my opinion. I will be the first to say that my misuse of smiley faces and poor grammar skills is why people like you(don't mean that as an insult) take sarcasm to seriously.

You can ask my bud Allanfan if this is true.

But in all honesty I don't care. I'm a liar, an LB lover. I'm a jerk. Whatever. I still love coming here and have great conversations with Everyone on the board. Well ALMOST EVERYONE.

By the way TMS I said Sweetney would become the next Elton Brand in style of play, not talent

[Edited by - Bippity10 on 05-31-2006 7:21 PM]

[Edited by - Bippity10 on 05-31-2006 7:26 PM]

bip, bravo. BRAVO.

how you subliminally say "oohah's mother works down by the docks" is just sheer brilliance.

oohah - are you gonna take that?
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5/31/2006  7:41 PM
Bip is a lovable mascot. Look, I found this picture of him:

https:// It's not so hard.
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5/31/2006  8:21 PM
Posted by Bippity10:
Posted by Bonn1997:
Posted by Bippity10:

Not to be an instigator but.....

I will say this. When I argued with Blueseats over Marbury he was 100% wrong but very respectful:) When I argued with Oohahh over LB it normally would shatter into me trying to make a point and him calling me a liar and an LB lover.

Anyway, I don't mean to be an instigator because it's not very becoming but I do agree with Blue Seats on this one. Oohaah starts with everyone.

He's never started something with me. And to be fair, I thought you and Oohah both exchanged a lot of cheapshots.

When I post something and that persons only response to any of my post is that I am an LB lover, yes I tend to be a little sarcastic. When I pointed this out and say I feel he doesn't have depth or add something I'm just being honest. Bonn you've posted with me for a couple years now and know I say the same thing over and over again. When someone reads my same posts about the organization and then calls me a liar and an LB lover for 3 months I tend to have some "fun-spirited" comments to make. they continue to call me a liar months later yes at that point I will be sarcastic for months(you should know by now). Not personal. Just sarcastic. Kind of like I do with you. I personally have no problem with ooh ahh. I'm sure he's a great person. These sites are for fun and that's what I take it as. But I'm being honest when I say I don't feel ooh ahh adds to many of my conversations and many of his dealings with me degenerate to this. Doesn't mean he does that with everyone. Just me. And obviously a few others.

Now Bonn, you on the other hand have been bitter with me for months and that pains me, because I think you are wonderful. Was it the how we deal with the rookies conversation? I feel you and I have grown apart since then.

Hmm. I really didn't think I was bitter toward you but I'm sorry I came across that way. No, definitely there's no problem between us about Larry's playing rotations. I stopped posting about the issue because I accepted a long time ago that people who shared and people who disagreed with my view were not going to change views and were just going to endlessly post the same thing.
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5/31/2006  9:41 PM
I think you guys all need a group hug.
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5/31/2006  9:45 PM
Blueseats, I'm going to let that remark ride. I suggest you do the mature thing as well and stop taking shots at me. Just let it ride.

You make it sound like somewhere along the line you passed around the Peace Pipe and I refused to puff. I've been willing to make nice-nice at any time. What's held things back is your insistence everyone is at fault but you; that I hijacked the thread; that I did you an injustice by paraphrasing your accusation that I "make stuff up and pass it off as fact" as being called a "liar"; and that you've somehow proved me wrong over and over 1000%.

Now you finally did post something meaningful about Brown's playbook in Detroit. THAT, as in EVIDENCE, does carry weight for me and goes a heck of a lot further toward contradicting me that all your previous posts where you claimed to have PROVED me wrong but did not. And this is where I took issue with you, you tried to make it seem as if the evidence I post to support my assertions is tainted, or worse, even my intent to evidence my assertion made me less credible on the whole, and all you had to do was question it as proof to prove I make stuff up.

As to who's evidence is more compelling regarding Brown's playbook, yours or mine, I'd still take mine since it was in the context of the knicks of which I was speaking. But I credit you for bringing something to the table to back your challenge.

Anyway, there were other tidbits of yours I could challenge, and challenges from you I could explain, but who cares? For instance, I actually didn't intend for my "care to eat your words" comment to be as abrasive as you took it. I told you I wrote a reply that I never posted and in it, after the playbook quotes, I phrased my challenge as "now call me ridiculous and preposterous again, beeyotch " Who knows, maybe that phrasing would have made all the difference. At the same time sometimes when I see you being acerbic with other posters it flavors my interaction with you. So there are many fine points that influence the dynamic.

But I'm not bitter, I hold no grudge, I played my part, we both threw some punches and both took some blows. I found it entertaining.

I still have more to say on Larry Brown and the knicks and I look forward to tossing ideas about with you going forward. The truth is none of us really disagree on what went wrong as much as it sometimes appears. We all know who the protagonists of the franchise are and they all deserve a fair share of blame, we just quibble over the amount and the context.

Still, I suspect we'll get testy again from time to time, it's in our nature. Ain't no big thing.

And I gotta give the Martin and Andrew serious kudos for letting us burn this out without intervention.
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5/31/2006  9:50 PM
weak....

i was getting pumped for a blueseats vs. oohah wrestling match....a MUD wrestling match
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5/31/2006  9:50 PM
Posted by BlueSeats:

And I gotta give the Martin and Andrew serious kudos for letting us burn this out without intervention.

burn baby, burn burn burn like fabulous roman candles exploding like spiders across the stars and in the middle you see the blue center light pop and everybody goes "AWWW!". Always good to inject Jack into the threads.

You'all just mod yourselves.

Now back to the regularly scheduled quoting.
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5/31/2006  10:13 PM
You make it sound like somewhere along the line you passed around the Peace Pipe and I refused to puff.I've been willing to make nice-nice at any time. What's held things back is your insistence everyone is at fault but you; that I hijacked the thread; that I did you an injustice by paraphrasing your accusation that I "make stuff up and pass it off as fact" as being called a "liar"; and that you've somehow proved me wrong over and over 1000%.

Oh snap, no he didn't. He not only said that you are on the pipe, but that its YOUR FAULT, and that he gonna hijack an air plane go Taliban on you and blow up your house.

You just can't let that slide Oohah.
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5/31/2006  11:11 PM
You just can't let that slide Oohah
Could there possibly be any doubt that he won't let it slide?
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You make it sound like somewhere along the line you passed around the Peace Pipe and I refused to puff. I've been willing to make nice-nice at any time. What's held things back is your insistence everyone is at fault but you; that I hijacked the thread; that I did you an injustice by paraphrasing your accusation that I "make stuff up and pass it off as fact" as being called a "liar"; and that you've somehow proved me wrong over and over 1000%.

You've got the last word blueseats unless you want to post more about it yourself. I am done with the personal stuff.

Now you finally did post something meaningful about Brown's playbook in Detroit. THAT, as in EVIDENCE, does carry weight for me and goes a heck of a lot further toward contradicting me that all your previous posts where you claimed to have PROVED me wrong but did not. And this is where I took issue with you, you tried to make it seem as if the evidence I post to support my assertions is tainted, or worse, even my intent to evidence my assertion made me less credible on the whole, and all you had to do was question it as proof to prove I make stuff up.

As to who's evidence is more compelling regarding Brown's playbook, yours or mine, I'd still take mine since it was in the context of the knicks of which I was speaking. But I credit you for bringing something to the table to back your challenge.

In all seriousness, I don't think that quote lends one iota of credibility to the size of Brown's playbook one way or the other. That is just what some writer wrote because he needed to come up with something on a deadline. A newspaper article does not equal substantiation; that information in itself must be substantiated. For every writer that says black, there is one that says white. They are humans with agendas as well. Therefore I try not to substantiate on opinion pieces especially.

As a youth, I had the experience of spending some time with sportswriters at the New York Times as well as NY Newsday. I learned that they generally don't know ****. They get their news slightly ahead of us because they get to be at the press conference. But most days there is no true news but much rampant speculation and even the straightup creation of 'news', very few of them have real inside connections, and even when they do it is usually what one guy heard that another guy said he heard. How many times have they been wrong and we have been right? Plenty!

That is why I never revolve my posts around what supposedly is happening behind the scenes or team relationships or other details that I cannot really know. The writer wasn't there for the behind the scenes so what does he know? I only believe behind the scenes info when it comes from the horse's mouth and you have to take that stuff with a huge grain of salt too. It is a secretive business.

I prefer to use stats and records like yahoo sports and database basketball and basketball reference as well as the games I actually watched. Then perhaps I will add a little of the 'talk' around a team.

Besides that, I think how many plays Brown owns or runs is fairly irrelevant, and that was my underlying point for quite a while. All the players have all been playing basketball their whole life; they know how to run plays (With perhaps the exception of Jamal Crawford.), but if they are not payed consistently in many ways, they will not execute consistently either. And if you play a group consistently and they still cannot gel, well, then it is their own fault.

Anyway, there were other tidbits of yours I could challenge, and challenges from you I could explain, but who cares? For instance, I actually didn't intend for my "care to eat your words" comment to be as abrasive as you took it. I told you I wrote a reply that I never posted and in it, after the playbook quotes, I phrased my challenge as "now call me ridiculous and preposterous again, beeyotch " Who knows, maybe that phrasing would have made all the difference. At the same time sometimes when I see you being acerbic with other posters it flavors my interaction with you. So there are many fine points that influence the dynamic.

But I'm not bitter, I hold no grudge, I played my part, we both threw some punches and both took some blows. I found it entertaining.

I still have more to say on Larry Brown and the knicks and I look forward to tossing ideas about with you going forward. The truth is none of us really disagree on what went wrong as much as it sometimes appears. We all know who the protagonists of the franchise are and they all deserve a fair share of blame, we just quibble over the amount and the context.

Still, I suspect we'll get testy again from time to time, it's in our nature. Ain't no big thing.

And I gotta give the Martin and Andrew serious kudos for letting us burn this out without intervention.

To future testiness,

oohah



[Edited by - oohah on 06-01-2006 03:15 AM]
Good luck Mike D'Antoni, 'cause you ain't never seen nothing like this before!
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6/1/2006  2:15 AM
forget this going back in forth stuff I wanna see who would win in a fight
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6/1/2006  8:50 AM
What's this nice nice crap. No more hugging. I want you guys to continue fighting. Oooh ahhh you should hear some of the stuff blueseats says via private message. He seems to have it out for you

On a side note: I threw in a smiley face at the end so that it would be clear to everyone that I am joking.
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6/1/2006  8:51 AM
Posted by djsunyc:
Posted by Bippity10:

Ooh ahh in all honesty my bitterness towards you(although it's bitterness with a smile) all stems from one post. A post where I literally spent 20 minutes trying to word it properly so that everyone understood that I think LB did an awful job. At some point in the post I used awful, ridiculous and then stated my mantra which I've said 1000 times that it's not LB it's the organization. You proceeded to call me an LB apologist for a while.

Second item of my sheer and utter anger was over the liar comments. I have gone on record over a 1000 times that my predictions are right just about as often as everyone else. None of us know what will happen. None of us are experts but like anyone else I have an educated guess. Now when I am right I will come on here and brag to high heaven about it. Kind of like I do when I win a bet with a friend. I brag and brag and we all laugh and laugh. I talk trash. Most of the men I hang out with do the same in return. When I lose a bet with a friend or have a wrong prediction I will blatantly come on and pretend that I never said it. Once again I could keep my mouth shut and pretend it never happened. Or I can bring it to the forefront and have fun with it. Most people know I'm joking and could give to flying f's about predictions. Some people are offended by this behavior. I understand this and from now on will be more serious with my predictions. For instance I predict that LB will not be our coach next year . Do you see the seriousness in that scowl. I am dead serious. Now if he is the coach next year I will change and not come on here and do what I normally do and pretend that I said otherwise.

As for goading your response. Yes, I clearly goaded your response. If you read the post, I was clearly trying to goad both of you because I enjoyed the reading. I could really care less about your guys argument. I just took Blueseats side because I knew you would be easier to goad because you are are normally po'd at someone.

And yes I do feel that some people consider me a lovable mascot os that's why they don't get bent out of shape. Orrrrrrrrr an alternative view. They probably know that I am joking.

Now you paint the picture of me being this horrible tyrant that goes around flaming and screaming at everyone. Yes fine. I apologized to you, I apologized to metssuck, I've apologized to blueseats I always apologize to people when I step out of line and they call me out. Because that's what adults do, they apologize when they are wrong. That's probably why I apologized to you at the time. Because at that moment I felt I was wrong and you were right. NOt ashamed of this. You can use that apology as your signature if that makes you feel better. But when I apologize it doesn't mean I feel that I am always wrong and you are always right, which seems to be your point. Unless of course my reading comprehension is poor(which is possible) because I skimmed your post. I figured you do it, maybe I should give it a try.

For this on the other hand I don't apologize to because I my opinion is the same. You read 30 posts from me about how I thought LB did an awful job. In the end your conclusion was that I was an LB lover. so I am to conclude you either didn't read the posts, wanted to flame me, were joking and wanted to get under my skin or have poor reading comprehension skills. That's my opinion. I will be the first to say that my misuse of smiley faces and poor grammar skills is why people like you(don't mean that as an insult) take sarcasm to seriously.

You can ask my bud Allanfan if this is true.

But in all honesty I don't care. I'm a liar, an LB lover. I'm a jerk. Whatever. I still love coming here and have great conversations with Everyone on the board. Well ALMOST EVERYONE.

By the way TMS I said Sweetney would become the next Elton Brand in style of play, not talent

[Edited by - Bippity10 on 05-31-2006 7:21 PM]

[Edited by - Bippity10 on 05-31-2006 7:26 PM]

bip, bravo. BRAVO.

how you subliminally say "oohah's mother works down by the docks" is just sheer brilliance.

oohah - are you gonna take that?

It's subtle. But it's there
I just hope that people will like me
Why couldn't we play uptempo??

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