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12/30/2005  11:16 PM
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i'll say it again, Frye needs to play 30 minutes a night. min.

We already tried that. We still sucked. I don't know what else we can try. Maybe a... trade?

how many games have Frye and Curry both played 30 minutes? I don't think it happened yet this season. it needs to happen every night for them to be in the game.
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12/30/2005  11:17 PM
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this team should have a lot MORE WINS.

Of course! What a shame that when they are in line to finally win one, they just mess it up all and lose anyway. Oh, wait, thats the reason we don't have many wins...

no it isnt, the reason we dont have more wins is becuase the knicks played with no effert until now.

Yeah, and where were you during the first 19 games of the Knicks? They played with good effort on those games and still lost most of the games. They just gave up after those games and now they alternate the effort: sometimes they try, sometimes not. Even when we try we still lose. Thats just the way it is...
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12/30/2005  11:18 PM
Posted by crzymdups:

Knicks finish up 2k5 at 24-55. maybe 2k6 will be better

Wow! Thats actually great! Its amazing this team can win 24 games...
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12/30/2005  11:19 PM
Posted by Knicksfan:
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Posted by PhilinLA:

this team should have a lot MORE WINS.

Of course! What a shame that when they are in line to finally win one, they just mess it up all and lose anyway. Oh, wait, thats the reason we don't have many wins...

no it isnt, the reason we dont have more wins is becuase the knicks played with no effert until now.

Yeah, and where were you during the first 19 games of the Knicks? They played with good effort on those games and still lost most of the games. They just gave up after those games and now they alternate the effort: sometimes they try, sometimes not. Even when we try we still lose. Thats just the way it is...

they need a consistent rotation. a big part of that is Curry staying healthy and giving us 30 minutes every night. another big part of that is Larry Brown trusting Frye and Lee and giving them good consistent minutes.

....and I hate to say it, but we seem to play better without Q playing at all.
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12/30/2005  11:23 PM
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i'll say it again, Frye needs to play 30 minutes a night. min.

We already tried that. We still sucked. I don't know what else we can try. Maybe a... trade?

how many games have Frye and Curry both played 30 minutes? I don't think it happened yet this season. it needs to happen every night for them to be in the game.

Well, first, Curry has to stay with the Knicks for a long stretch to make that happen. Too many injuries.

Then, when it did happen, we god outrebounded a lot. Not that I wouldn't like the Idea, heck anything that can make us better sounds great to me, but I just don't see that as an answer to all of our problems, This team is so flawed that its just sad...
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12/30/2005  11:25 PM
Posted by crzymdups:
Posted by Knicksfan:
Posted by SlimPack:
Posted by Knicksfan:
Posted by PhilinLA:

this team should have a lot MORE WINS.

Of course! What a shame that when they are in line to finally win one, they just mess it up all and lose anyway. Oh, wait, thats the reason we don't have many wins...

no it isnt, the reason we dont have more wins is becuase the knicks played with no effert until now.

Yeah, and where were you during the first 19 games of the Knicks? They played with good effort on those games and still lost most of the games. They just gave up after those games and now they alternate the effort: sometimes they try, sometimes not. Even when we try we still lose. Thats just the way it is...

they need a consistent rotation. a big part of that is Curry staying healthy and giving us 30 minutes every night. another big part of that is Larry Brown trusting Frye and Lee and giving them good consistent minutes.

....and I hate to say it, but we seem to play better without Q playing at all.

Yeah, Q helps the Knicks not playing at all. How sad is that?

Yeah, the rotation is another part of the problem. Larry just can't settle on something. Its just a soap opera all this...
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12/30/2005  11:26 PM
Larry Brown actually seemed mostly happy with the effort. said Jamal's threes in the fourth were ill-advised, which obviously they were. He also said they commited stupid fouls, mostly Jerome James (3 fouls in 2min) and Trevor (4 fouls in 11 minutes).

He said the team just doesn't know how to win yet.

I actually agree with that. It's something every group of guys has to learn to do together. they're getting there. I'd say at least this game was a step in the right direction...
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12/30/2005  11:31 PM
Posted by djsunyc:

these are the moments we need steph...

yeah, to stop Crawford from throwing away the game for us. Those were the plays LB called, Craw screwed them up. But way to bring it back to Steph when youre boy is sucking.
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12/30/2005  11:33 PM
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crawford is a p.o.s.

please.
Haha don't read too much into any posts I have on these threads, it's just spur of the moment reactions...

welp, he just missed another three. so I guess the cancer of the Knicks will be Craw for this game since Marbury has been solid.
Nope, I doubt it.
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12/30/2005  11:34 PM
Posted by crzymdups:

Larry Brown actually seemed mostly happy with the effort. said Jamal's threes in the fourth were ill-advised, which obviously they were. He also said they commited stupid fouls, mostly Jerome James (3 fouls in 2min) and Trevor (4 fouls in 11 minutes).

He said the team just doesn't know how to win yet.

I actually agree with that. It's something every group of guys has to learn to do together. they're getting there. I'd say at least this game was a step in the right direction...


We definitely don't know how to win. But with all the turmoil and the inconsistent effort, I really wonder if they will ever get there. This has just been such an ugly season....
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12/30/2005  11:34 PM
Posted by BlueSeats:

Don't worry Steph, all great PGs dribble off their foot in the clutch.

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12/30/2005  11:37 PM
Posted by Killa4luv:
Posted by djsunyc:

these are the moments we need steph...

yeah, to stop Crawford from throwing away the game for us. Those were the plays LB called, Craw screwed them up. But way to bring it back to Steph when youre boy is sucking.

LOL yeah. Its all Steph. Remember he has mind control over Crawford and he indicates him when to mess a play like that. Man, then people ask why Marbury looks so depressed sometimes and has that body language...
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12/30/2005  11:46 PM
Posted by Killa4luv:
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these are the moments we need steph...

yeah, to stop Crawford from throwing away the game for us. Those were the plays LB called, Craw screwed them up. But way to bring it back to Steph when youre boy is sucking.

look at the time i posted this...this was after crawford missed the shots and we needed steph to take over for us.

crawford's decisions cost us the game during that 3 minutes stretch. again, you make this out to be crawford vs. marbury. that has nothing to do with it, it has to do what's best for the team. like blueseats said, you can CLEARLY see NOW that steph was not going all out the last game. and tonight, marbury pretty much deferred the entire 4th quarter. he is not the pg for us b/c he does not know the flow of the game and does not know when to pass or shoot when the game is on the line. he's just not smart enough to run a team...and that's my whole gripe with him. this is exactly why i keep saying that crawford should be the point (b/c imho, he's not that reliable as a pure sg) and why steph needs to play sg b/c then he doesn't have to think especially with the game on the line.

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12/30/2005  11:48 PM
Congrats to the Knick for an accomplishment done today:

The Knicks dropped to 7-21 -- matching their worst start since 1986-87 -- and fell into last place in the Atlantic Division, percentage points behind Toronto (8-22).

So the worst start in almost 20 years and we are now officialy worse than Toronto. Nice
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12/31/2005  12:04 AM
Posted by djsunyc:
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these are the moments we need steph...

yeah, to stop Crawford from throwing away the game for us. Those were the plays LB called, Craw screwed them up. But way to bring it back to Steph when youre boy is sucking.

look at the time i posted this...this was after crawford missed the shots and we needed steph to take over for us.

crawford's decisions cost us the game during that 3 minutes stretch. again, you make this out to be crawford vs. marbury. that has nothing to do with it, it has to do what's best for the team. like blueseats said, you can CLEARLY see NOW that steph was not going all out the last game. and tonight, marbury pretty much deferred the entire 4th quarter. he is not the pg for us b/c he does not know the flow of the game and does not know when to pass or shoot when the game is on the line. this is exactly why i keep saying that crawford should be the point (b/c imho, he's not that reliable as a pure sg) and why steph needs to play sg b/c then he doesn't have to think especially with the game on the line.
Fair enough, but if you were watching closely, it was pretty apparent that LB called those plays for Craw. Its not like it was a pick and roll, or Steph off the ball running around picks. Those plays were obviously designed for Craw to get his shot off. He brought the ball up and Craw was coming off of picks and Craw got the ball in consecutive postions. Unfortunately, he costed us the game. I like messing with you about it, but I'm not mad at him or blaming him for this loss, although he made the most egregious mistakes in the crucial moments. He needs to play more consistantly and we will win.
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12/31/2005  12:07 AM
Posted by Killa4luv:
Posted by djsunyc:
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these are the moments we need steph...

yeah, to stop Crawford from throwing away the game for us. Those were the plays LB called, Craw screwed them up. But way to bring it back to Steph when youre boy is sucking.

look at the time i posted this...this was after crawford missed the shots and we needed steph to take over for us.

crawford's decisions cost us the game during that 3 minutes stretch. again, you make this out to be crawford vs. marbury. that has nothing to do with it, it has to do what's best for the team. like blueseats said, you can CLEARLY see NOW that steph was not going all out the last game. and tonight, marbury pretty much deferred the entire 4th quarter. he is not the pg for us b/c he does not know the flow of the game and does not know when to pass or shoot when the game is on the line. this is exactly why i keep saying that crawford should be the point (b/c imho, he's not that reliable as a pure sg) and why steph needs to play sg b/c then he doesn't have to think especially with the game on the line.
Fair enough, but if you were watching closely, it was pretty apparent that LB called those plays for Craw. Its not like it was a pick and roll, or Steph off the ball running around picks. Those plays were obviously designed for Craw to get his shot off. He brought the ball up and Craw was coming off of picks and Craw got the ball in consecutive postions. Unfortunately, he costed us the game. I like messing with you about it, but I'm not mad at him or blaming him for this loss, although he made the most egregious mistakes in the crucial moments. He needs to play more consistantly and we will win.

craw in the postgame took full blame for the loss.
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12/31/2005  12:11 AM
Posted by djsunyc:
Posted by Killa4luv:
Posted by djsunyc:
Posted by Killa4luv:
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these are the moments we need steph...

yeah, to stop Crawford from throwing away the game for us. Those were the plays LB called, Craw screwed them up. But way to bring it back to Steph when youre boy is sucking.

look at the time i posted this...this was after crawford missed the shots and we needed steph to take over for us.

crawford's decisions cost us the game during that 3 minutes stretch. again, you make this out to be crawford vs. marbury. that has nothing to do with it, it has to do what's best for the team. like blueseats said, you can CLEARLY see NOW that steph was not going all out the last game. and tonight, marbury pretty much deferred the entire 4th quarter. he is not the pg for us b/c he does not know the flow of the game and does not know when to pass or shoot when the game is on the line. this is exactly why i keep saying that crawford should be the point (b/c imho, he's not that reliable as a pure sg) and why steph needs to play sg b/c then he doesn't have to think especially with the game on the line.
Fair enough, but if you were watching closely, it was pretty apparent that LB called those plays for Craw. Its not like it was a pick and roll, or Steph off the ball running around picks. Those plays were obviously designed for Craw to get his shot off. He brought the ball up and Craw was coming off of picks and Craw got the ball in consecutive postions. Unfortunately, he costed us the game. I like messing with you about it, but I'm not mad at him or blaming him for this loss, although he made the most egregious mistakes in the crucial moments. He needs to play more consistantly and we will win.

craw in the postgame took full blame for the loss.

Great! Now I can have a nice sleep. Thanks, Craw...
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12/31/2005  12:22 AM
I don't think Larry called those plays, or at least those shots for Crawford. He was pissed about the threes in the last three minutes. And Craw was the only guy taking threes.
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12/31/2005  1:11 AM
craws late folley killed us, marbs played well, frye should get more minutes and lee looked solid... we actually looked decent tonight...
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12/31/2005  1:14 AM
Posted by Killa4luv:
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Don't worry Steph, all great PGs dribble off their foot in the clutch.

Lemmings.

Sorry killa, but I was ahead of the curve.

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