Posted by islesfan:
Posted by Bippity10:
That's all I'm saying Bonn. Some of these guys seem to think with two number 8,9, 10 picks we were going to end up with Lebron James and then be able to dump Eisley and Spoons contracts on other teams for lottery picks. I will re-iterate we had two choices:
1.) Gamble on players like we have, while building up a group of young and TRADEABLE assets that really can be traded for draft picks or turn into stars. Get rid of the misery and bring in a big coach that can draw big name players. Of course this leaves you with question marks, questionable players and rejects.
2.) Or we could have waited until after 2007 when we were under the cap, watch 4 more years of the most godawful boring basketball on the planet. Have 4, 5, 6 years of mediocre drafts and then try to entice a coach and free-agent to come to a team that has been surrounded in misery, has no future and has been ridiculed for 6 years. And then at that point begin the re-building process.
Either way it would have been miserable and either way Isles would have been angry. The grass is always greener
I love how in your two choices you had us "building up a group of young and TRADEABLE assets that really can be traded for draft picks or turn into stars" in the "Good" scenario but our drafts would have been 4-6 years of only mediocre drafts because I guess drafting in the lottery for that long only produces mediocre drafts.
How about for a 3rd scenario where you dump salary with the intent of being under the cap after Houston's contract comes off the books, keep all of your lottery picks and using them wisely so that you have a nice young nucleus for when you can sign top free agents. That would have taken 4 years where right now we're 2 years into Isiah's reign of error and people are still saying that they need 2-3 more years to evaluate it.
Isles again both scenario's are filled with question marks and scenario 3 still has no guarantees. Waiting out the contracts would have left us with two with a Frye type player last year and a number 10 pickish in 2004. Would that number 10 have been as good as Curry or have as much upside at age 22. Who knows? Just because you and I prefer this method doesn't mean it has no question marks and is guaranteed success anymore than hoping Curry develops does. You seem to think it is a definite path for success. Now my question is, you fire Isiah today, Curry turns into a beast do you then call for his rehire?
In your scenario we have two lottery picks at this point. If we are lucky they turn out to be as good as frye and Curry. Our roster is still Eisley, frank, Spoon, Shandon and any of the other bumbs not retired. We are still over the cap for another year, but thankfully we would still have our first round pick this year. Maybe that turns into a superstar/the savior knick fans have been seeing on everyone else's teams and maybe it's a bumb. Then we have to wait until the next year, and then the next year. There are no guarantees in building through the draft.
There is a difference between wanting something to happen and saying that anyway but my way is wrong. I agree with you. Open your eyes. I agree with you as to what the best course of action is. But the reality is that we have a young team with upside which is exactly what we would have hoped for in the draft. So why would we fire a guy based on that 2 years into his regime when more changes are obviously on the horizon. Do you think Penny, Antonio's contracts and all the young guys will be here come draft time. Is there a chance there contracts could be turned into better players or picks? I don't know, maybee. Too soon to tell. But there is as many questions around that as there is around drafting Bynum or Gay or anybody else.
It all comes down to Curry. Marbury was traded for to work with Houston. That was derailed so we have retoooled. Now the team is built around Curry who has as much upside as anyone you are getting in your magical draft. If he fails it was a bad trade. But if this guy turns into a beast what did we fire Isiah for.