Posted by simrud:

Rose did nothing to help SA. He was the weakest part of their rotation. Their achilles hill if you will.


I remember back in 99 I was extatic every time he came into the game because it meant somthing good for the Knicks every time he touched the ball.

Why do you think they gave up 2 1st round picks to get rid of him if he was so good.

Posted by fishmike:

Hey, Isles, what if they wanted to keep Jackie Butler? How would waiving Shandon make sense then?

yes. Because your paying them both anyway. By using the rule on Shandon you save more $$$ because his deal is bigger. So you just cut JYD, and amnesty Shandon and you save about $1.5mm

Its not my money, but $1.5mm is $1.5mm

Where does the roster space to keep Jackie come from?

Posted by simrud:

Stats don't tell the story when comparing JYD and Taylor.

Taylor is a lazy out of shape no defense dog. JYD is an energy player who provides a spark of the bench. Taylor type players destroy teams, JYD type players make them.

Taylor only contributes on offense where we already have plenty, and if swill post anybody it should be Sweetney first, Q second, and JJ thrid. JYD was our only defensive stopper.

yeah but JYD wasn't going to play on this team. He barely played last year and this year we added James, frye & lee. That is the only reason I'm brushing this move aside. Its not a big deal. I just hope the team realizes they need a real frontcourt player not malik rose for 35mins after Frye struggles early on and sweetney and james are in foul trouble

Posted by franco12:

Posted by rvhoss:

Why did taylor have better stats than JYD? Just answer that question and I'll go to another argument...if taylor sucks, JYD shouldn't be in the league.

JYD's game high rebounds with knicks = 11, MoT's high rebounds with knicks = 10
Mot's game high points with knicks = 19, JYD's high points with knicks = 15

we already know the averages.

What exactly do we need JYD for again? (that we don't already have btw)

Posted by simrud:

Taylor sucks and he should have been waived or better yet never traded for. He should never get any play in time over Sweetney or Frye or Rose. Which puts 4 bigs in front of him including James.

JYD we could have actually traed at some point. Taylor is unfreakin movable.

Idiots who liked the Mo Taylor trade manup!!!

JYD could have been a situational player- guarding a Dirk or KG out on the perimeter

He can play 10 mins and be effective.

Other players (Lazy Marbs, Q & Craw) could be see JYD go at it and pick up there games.

What does rose give us?

The best post defense against midgets in the NBA.

I completely agree with that. JYD's effectiveness is not seen on the stat sheet but he was not going to get any playing time this year so this move is not the end of the world. It gives Lee & Ariza more minutes and both guys are more part of the future than rose, taylor and jyd

Posted by nyk4ever:

Posted by islesfan:

Posted by franco12:

for everyone saying Lee is able to replace JYD, Lee is a rookie and might not get it

Rose is a freagin midget and his rings don't mean anything except that he was playing alongside Tim Duncan.

I'm betting JYD ends up in miami!

There's no doubt that there's a market for JYD now that nobody has to pay him his contract, besides the Knicks. I'd bet that he's scooped up by a contender real quick. Contenders are always looking for athletic guys who hustle, plays defense and is a team player.

You can say the same thing for Malik Rose...

Except that he was sitting on a major contenders bench all last year and was then traded away.