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KURT TRADED PENDING LEAGUE APPROVAL!?!?!?!?!?
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djsunyc
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6/23/2005  1:24 AM
according to a poster on another board, who seems to have knowledge of the workings inside the knicks organization, there is a deal in place and is waiting league approval - dido, sit down...

kurt thomas for Q

i would like to believe this is true b/c that poster definitely has a history of postings that have turned out to be true before they were announced.
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djsunyc
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6/23/2005  1:24 AM
hellooooooooooooo channing frye...
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6/23/2005  1:29 AM
If this happens, it's either Bynum or Frye, but either way, we'll have the worst backcourts in NBA history this coming season.

1- Isiah is prolly done with Houston
2- Isiah probably has a trade for either Marbury or Crawford in mind, b/c Q and Craw and Marbury command a lot of playing time. Also, we still need to improve the backcourt defense.
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6/23/2005  1:30 AM
Wow if this is true I'm an extremely happy man. Even though I hate the style that the Suns play its becoming obvious that Isiah wants that style on the Knicks but the Suns had a nice year so I'll take it as long as I can watch my Knicks in the playoffs. KT for Q is a great deal for the Knicks, it's extremely obvious that Channing Frye has a guarentee from the Knicks which pisses me off becuase I don't think Channing is going to have great upside BUT he will be a pretty decent player. I just hope Isiah takes Bynum at 8 and puts him in the NBDL for a bit instead.
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djsunyc
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6/23/2005  1:31 AM
i'm assuming you mean "front courts"

marbury and Q will start
craw will be 6th man

none of them will be traded.

we lose our best big man BUT Q is a heck of a scorer and a sufficient 2 guard that can play with marbury. he's strong and can post up other 2 guards as well. another player that doesn't care about defense tho.

let the frye draft pick up steam AND penny for dampier...
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6/23/2005  1:32 AM
We will be the worst defensive team in the league BY A LOT if this happens, but that's just this year.
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6/23/2005  1:42 AM
Posted by djsunyc:

i'm assuming you mean "front courts"

marbury and Q will start
craw will be 6th man

none of them will be traded.

we lose our best big man BUT Q is a heck of a scorer and a sufficient 2 guard that can play with marbury. he's strong and can post up other 2 guards as well. another player that doesn't care about defense tho.

let the frye draft pick up steam AND penny for dampier...
While we have a lot of options having Q, Marbury, and Crawford in the backcourt, i would think as of right now IT's plan would be to have Qrich as our starting SF and move Tim Thomas, possibly along with Sweetney to get someone in the mold of Boozer or Brand. That wouldn't be a bad move at all. QRich has a SF body at 230lbs, and can post up a little bit. We're not quite as big, but we'll be tougher, quicker, younger, and more skilled.
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6/23/2005  1:46 AM
Posted by djsunyc:

i'm assuming you mean "front courts"

marbury and Q will start
craw will be 6th man

none of them will be traded.

we lose our best big man BUT Q is a heck of a scorer and a sufficient 2 guard that can play with marbury. he's strong and can post up other 2 guards as well. another player that doesn't care about defense tho.

let the frye draft pick up steam AND penny for dampier...

Na man, we will have one of the worst backcourts in the NBA as well as frontcourts. Q-Rich is a great scorer (BUT terrible defender), but this is the type of trade where it's imperitive that you make a follow up trade, and if you're gonna trade KT, you might as well just build for the future, b/c our defense is already gonna be abyssmal.
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djsunyc
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6/23/2005  1:49 AM
Posted by Knixkik:

While we have a lot of options having Q, Marbury, and Crawford in the backcourt, i would think as of right now IT's plan would be to have Qrich as our starting SF and move Tim Thomas, possibly along with Sweetney to get someone in the mold of Boozer or Brand. That wouldn't be a bad move at all. QRich has a SF body at 230lbs, and can post up a little bit. We're not quite as big, but we'll be tougher, quicker, younger, and more skilled.

if this trade goes down and we get Q, and then he follows that up with a tim/sweetney/#8 for boozer/#6 deal, and drafts bynum, then isiah gets an A+++++ b/c all those moves make sense and gives us an identity - high scoring backcourt with a big brusing front line.
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6/23/2005  1:50 AM
Bye Allan. You will be missed! I don't like this trade. I am not a Q fan. I am still hoping KT ends up in Houston for Hotdog neck and their 1st rd pick.
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6/23/2005  1:52 AM
Ehmmm, sorry to interrupt you guys, but... Maybe its because its soo late but... Who exactly is Mr. Q?
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djsunyc
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6/23/2005  1:53 AM
Posted by Knicksfan:

Ehmmm, sorry to interrupt you guys, but... Maybe its because its soo late but... Who exactly is Mr. Q?

holy schnikeys...quentin richardson
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6/23/2005  1:54 AM
If this turns out to be a false rumor, you better fear for your life dj. Dido is not going to be a happy camper.

By the way, what site is this from dj?

[Q is Q Rich from Phoenix]

[Edited by - MaTT4281 on 06/23/2005 01:56:03]
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6/23/2005  1:56 AM
Sorry, its just that everyone just says "Q". Its late here...

Anyway, if this is true, I have no clue what to think about it. Is there a second round pick coming to NY?
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6/23/2005  2:00 AM
Posted by MaTT4281:

If this turns out to be a false rumor, you better fear for your life dj. Dido is not going to be a happy camper.

dido will definitely be torn - on one side, the man that slept with his wife and impregnated his daughter, kurt thomas, is finally gone BUT on the other side, the played coming back is not 6'10 or above. :)

i got the info from "zeke206" on realgm.
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6/23/2005  2:09 AM
I still don't know how this trade help us. We trade our best frontcourt player- yeah, we were going to trade him, but to improve the team overall- for a guy smaller, that plays in the backcourt and plays no D? Huh?
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6/23/2005  2:10 AM
At least tell me there is a pick coming our way...
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6/23/2005  2:12 AM
Posted by Knicksfan:

I still don't know how this trade help us. We trade our best frontcourt player- yeah, we were going to trade him, but to improve the team overall- for a guy smaller, that plays in the backcourt and plays no D? Huh?

i'm ASSUMING there's a follow up coming. maybe the boozer deal, who knows? but i don't think we're going into the season minus kurt and plus frye and think our frontcourt is ready. tim and/or penny will get moved for someone like boozer or dampier.
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6/23/2005  2:16 AM
I doubt there is a pick coming Knicks, I'd still say Q is the better overall player.
While it wouldn't have been my first choice, if this trade goes down, I can support it. Of course to do so, I have to keep telling myself there will be more trades coming (scary, I know). If the trade goes down, it would lead me to believe Tim is on his way out the door very shortly. We can play Q at the 3 and still nab a C with the expiring contract.

I'm still having trouble actually believing that it did/will happen, but if it does, I guess we can officially say good bye to any hopes of a gritty defensive team. It was a long shot, yeah, but I was hoping to get something featuring players like Ariza, JYD, and Rose.
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6/23/2005  2:17 AM
Getting Dampier after trading for Q would make me hate Zeke. You get a run and gun player, and then you get a C who slows it down. PLease don't go near Damp.
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KURT TRADED PENDING LEAGUE APPROVAL!?!?!?!?!?

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