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sbensol74
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6/8/2005  12:40 AM
OTL on bynum tonight
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6/8/2005  12:48 AM
OK, I have seen enough, I want this kid at 8....
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6/8/2005  12:49 AM
Basically it was just him and his family complaining about the age limit for the NBA. Since hes only 17 he will have to play 3 years in college before declaring for the draft.

He said if hes a lottery pick he isnt going to uconn. No real news here.

I just hope his profile doesnt get too big and he wont be there at 8
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6/8/2005  12:49 AM
This kid has good footwork, hands, and is very mobile, I would be happy with him or Gerald green...
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6/8/2005  12:54 AM
I agree, i dont think green will still be there at 8.

Bynum looks like he lost a lot of weight since the mcdonalds game.

I hope isiah doesnt get caught up on channing frye instead
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6/8/2005  2:17 AM
well there you go.....I trust TKF's judgement. Draft Bynum!
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6/8/2005  10:36 AM
How do his high school stats compare to Eddy Curry's... or Al Jefferson's?
Curry:
http://nbadraft.net/profiles/eddycurry.htm

Jefferson:
http://nbadraft.net/profiles/aljefferson.asp

He's bigger than both of them.

I'd be worried that we'd be using a #8 pick on the next Brendan Haywood... but then again, if you could get as productive a player as Haywood... you're not doing too badly.

If there's a player w/ superstar potential available (Gerald Green)... well... I don't care if he's plays the same position as Ariza, we've gotta take him.

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6/8/2005  10:43 AM
Bynum has more moves now at 17 than Haywood has as a pro.. this kid is long, has soft hands and he attacks the rim. I like Gerald green, but if he is not there, I would love to take bynum, move up from 30 and take a swingman, if webster is still there... really if you take bynum now and stick him in the game for 15 minutes, He could help our height deprived knicks, even if it is getting his hands on balls and finishing around the rim, that he can do... he is a load..
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6/8/2005  10:44 AM
Posted by technomaster:

How do his high school stats compare to Eddy Curry's... or Al Jefferson's?
Curry:
http://nbadraft.net/profiles/eddycurry.htm

Jefferson:
http://nbadraft.net/profiles/aljefferson.asp

He's bigger than both of them.

I'd be worried that we'd be using a #8 pick on the next Brendan Haywood... but then again, if you could get as productive a player as Haywood... you're not doing too badly.

If there's a player w/ superstar potential available (Gerald Green)... well... I don't care if he's plays the same position as Ariza, we've gotta take him.
yeah but you're talking a couple of years to get to where Brendan is. I don't see him coming in this year or the next and giving us brendan Haywood production. I mean look at Brendan Haywood himself. He really just came alive this season.
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6/8/2005  5:29 PM
Posted by technomaster:

How do his high school stats compare to Eddy Curry's... or Al Jefferson's?
Curry:
http://nbadraft.net/profiles/eddycurry.htm

Jefferson:
http://nbadraft.net/profiles/aljefferson.asp

He's bigger than both of them.

I'd be worried that we'd be using a #8 pick on the next Brendan Haywood... but then again, if you could get as productive a player as Haywood... you're not doing too badly.

If there's a player w/ superstar potential available (Gerald Green)... well... I don't care if he's plays the same position as Ariza, we've gotta take him.
Wow; check out Al Jefferson's HS stats. 42PPG, 18 RPG in his senior year! With that in mind and the way people are talking about Bynum, he better have averaged at least 70 PPG and 40 RPG! (Anyone have Bynum's HS stats?)
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6/8/2005  5:34 PM
Personally, I dont even want to discuss another option. If the Knicks are too stupid not to see what this kid will be, well let them sit in ****. This is going to be a 20-10-3 C in the nBA for a long time, and will be able to play right away off the bench.
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6/8/2005  5:46 PM
Posted by BRIGGS:

Personally, I dont even want to discuss another option. If the Knicks are too stupid not to see what this kid will be, well let them sit in ****. This is going to be a 20-10-3 C in the nBA for a long time, and will be able to play right away off the bench.
You sold me on him Briggs. But now I am going to sound like Fish, he won't be there at 8 if he is that good. I hope this talk about the Knicks trying to move up reflects. I won't even consider this Frye talk because Isiah was scouting Frye before Bynum even announce. When is his workout with the Knicks?
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6/8/2005  5:54 PM
Posted by Pharzeone:
Posted by BRIGGS:

Personally, I dont even want to discuss another option. If the Knicks are too stupid not to see what this kid will be, well let them sit in ****. This is going to be a 20-10-3 C in the nBA for a long time, and will be able to play right away off the bench.
You sold me on him Briggs. But now I am going to sound like Fish, he won't be there at 8 if he is that good. I hope this talk about the Knicks trying to move up reflects. I won't even consider this Frye talk because Isiah was scouting Frye before Bynum even announce. When is his workout with the Knicks?



Bynum is not better than amare stoudemire, and he went 9th. As of YET, I havent seen any indication that he would go higher than 8, BUt he has workouts lined up with NO, Atlanta Portland and the Knicks after Memphis.
I can say quite firmly that Toronto will NOT pick Bynum, that they will be taking wright Graham or Green. Im almost positive that Utah wants one of the three big PGs and have 0 workout planned for him.
Portland and NO both have young C and have other needs. I think we would have 1st crack at him
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6/8/2005  6:17 PM
Not to be cynical, but I just don't understand how anybody can say that Bynum is a significantly better prospect than Petro, Splitter....even Akindale. I mean...aren't all these guys fairly athletic, but extremely raw 7 footers.

Is Bynum any better a prospect than Nene when he came out? If so, why?

Than Chandler? Than Kwame?

Would Bynum give us any more production in the next 3 years than any of the MLE free agent stiffs out there (James, Hunter etc.)?

I think the answer is NO. I think that this is why you grab Akindale at 30 and get an actual basketball player at 8.
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6/8/2005  6:21 PM
i think bynums stats were 17ppg 13rpg

sounds disappointing but i heard he was injured most
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6/8/2005  7:22 PM
Posted by purple012870:

Not to be cynical, but I just don't understand how anybody can say that Bynum is a significantly better prospect than Petro, Splitter....even Akindale. I mean...aren't all these guys fairly athletic, but extremely raw 7 footers.

Is Bynum any better a prospect than Nene when he came out? If so, why?

Than Chandler? Than Kwame?
I agree with you. I definitely would not mind getting Bynum, but from what I've read, I think Splitter (if we can work through his buyout) could be just as good if not better and Petro *might* be as well. Bynum's younger and he has a tiny height advantage over those two players. That's his advantage. (To use Fish's wording, his height advantage is about half the size of your pinky; are you going to let that determine the direction of your franchise?) Most experts (not people on this board) tend to have Splitter ranked much higher than Bynum actually. (Look at any mock draft.)

[Edited by - Bonn1997 on 06/08/2005 19:29:48]
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6/8/2005  7:24 PM
It is hard to look at Highschool stats sometimes, Al jefferson stats are just overblown, he has a nice game but he is sloppy, not really athletic and can't play a lick of defense.. Bynum doesn't need to average 50 ppg in HS to average 25ppg in the pros one day. This kid is a legit 7 footer!!! long arms, moves well, smart kid. He has good hands, he finishes strong, if anything he will score 15ppg by accident. When this kid gets a clue of how to really use his body and athleticism, he is going to be a monster, and I want that monster in Blue and orange... I mean How do we pass on him, this kid is not a jerome james or some stiff like that, he can actually catch the ball, produce a spin move and finish. Maybe I am wrong about this kid, but something tells me he is going to be a steal and franchise player for one team and the team that passes on him a franchise killer...
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6/8/2005  7:27 PM
what has Petro proven other than that 1 dunk clip?

We hear about Splitter doing well in the playoffs against top Euro conpetition. what is Petro doing right now?

If Bynum is gone and Isiah likes Splitter I wouldn't mind one bit if he's our project center or even PF but I rather draft BPA first and pick up a mid 1st rounf pick and draft Splitter
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Posted by purple012870:

Not to be cynical, but I just don't understand how anybody can say that Bynum is a significantly better prospect than Petro, Splitter....even Akindale. I mean...aren't all these guys fairly athletic, but extremely raw 7 footers.

Is Bynum any better a prospect than Nene when he came out? If so, why?

Than Chandler? Than Kwame?

Would Bynum give us any more production in the next 3 years than any of the MLE free agent stiffs out there (James, Hunter etc.)?

I think the answer is NO. I think that this is why you grab Akindale at 30 and get an actual basketball player at 8.

Good points, very good questions, but this kid has some things that kwame and chandler didn't and never will have. Huge soft hands, Big body with good control and very mobile, chandler and Kwame were bean poles, chandler still is. Chandler had no offensive game in the post. Bynum does, he is not just bulldozing guys over, he is taking that big 7-0 275 pound frame and spinning on guys, going around guys, that is where I see the difference. Chander got a lot of his HS points by missing easy 10 footers, getting the rebound over the other 6'4 HS center(rolling eyes) and putting it back in for a dunk. That is easy stuff, things that won't translate to better and bigger NBA players, but when you take bynum and look at his footwork, his hands, and the way he attacks the rim, you are like wow... I remember in the MCD game, gerald green gave him some fancy passes on the break, this kid caught them in stride and was finishing big time... Curry looked like a beast in HS, but the kid had no desire for defense, we saw that in him from the start, Bynum looks like he wants to learn everything, the kid is very intelligent, I think he is cut from a different cloth than these other guys. I may be wrong, but I like this kid..
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6/8/2005  7:35 PM
Posted by gunsnewing:

what has Petro proven other than that 1 dunk clip?

We hear about Splitter doing well in the playoffs against top Euro conpetition. what is Petro doing right now?

If Bynum is gone and Isiah likes Splitter I wouldn't mind one bit if he's our project center or even PF but I rather draft BPA first and pick up a mid 1st rounf pick and draft Splitter


Petro isnt even being measured at Chicago. im sorry, but ive seen his picture all over the web. They measured Bynum at his workout 7-1 1/8 282 with a 7-6 wingspan. That, my friends is a real C and hes only 17
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