Sloan got sick of Boozer real quick and benched him even though he was healthy in the second half of the season. Still doesn't deny the fact the guy can play.

Boozer and Harpring for Penny and maybe #30.

Utah would get salary relief. They are in the lotto and will definately pick up a big. All the draft sites and most people that seen him play know that Fran Vasquez is their guy. They will have Fran and AK-47 up front with Humphries and Handlogten(don't sleep he helped my fantasy team in the last few weeks). They won't miss Harpring with Snyder and Girecek on the team. They got Okur and Collins, plus Borchardt at center. They so don't need Boozer and Hapring.

The Knicks could use what Boozer and Harpring bring to the table. Marbs could work well with Boozer because Booze makes good cuts and can get up and finish at the rim. Harp plays hard all the time and can shoot and rebound. They both represent the new starting 4-3. This trade would allow Isiah to trade KT and buyout Timmy. The Knicks could still draft like normal.

Knicks look like:
pf: Boozer/Taylor/JYD
SF: Harpring/Ariza/JYD
C: Frye? maybe Gadzuric/Malik Rose
PG: Marbs/ Draft pick?/ trade?
SG: Craw/Houston?/Draft pick?

Get Laimbeer in here and tell me the Knicks couldn't win more games?

I'm not that big a fan of boozer but

there's no way Utah would do that trade. They can get to much more for Boozer imo

this would be a steal for any other team besides the knicks. The knicks cannot afford to ever have another undersized player in the rotation as it exists now. that goes for any position, and ESPECIALLY the frontcourt positions. besides, utah would never do that deal, and also boozer's contract is also pretty bad. can't deny that harpring is the type of player that we sorely lack though.

forget athletic. We need someone who can get it done on both ends of the floor whether its a C or PF.

Give me Boozer please. NYK fans need not be short sighted as Boozer is a beast. Slaon may not like him because he isn't Karl Malone but he sure plays well enough to help the KNicks. I would be willing to trade the Penny 30 and Sweetney for him. Since the kNicks really aren't into developing players Sweetney will get his opportunity to do his thing with an oraganization that actually knows how to develop players.

Boozer
Ariza
Frye
Crawford
Marbury

Thats not a bad team but will the knicks actually give Frye and Ariza a chance to become stars or do they trade them away too? Or worse groom them to be the ultimate NYK role player which they are real good at doing.

Posted by Bonn1997:

I think Boozer's value is pretty low. Utah used to be careful with its money and didn't like to have cap space tied up on players for many years like Boozer. I could easily see them doing a trade where they get back far less talent than they give up just to get out of Boozer's (and maybe Okur's too) contract.

Boozer's not an all-star. He's not a superstar or a franchise player. What he is is a very solid role player who will give you 18/10 and about average defense. He's not worth his contract and no GM concerned about contracts is going to want to take back his contract. But if you're not concerned about payroll, you might be able to steal him from Utah for something very little.

I don't know that I would call 18/10 a solid role player, but, true, he isn't an all star.

I'd be happy to trade for him, but you really do need to move KT at the same time.

He is young though.

Posted by franco12:

Posted by Bonn1997:

I think Boozer's value is pretty low. Utah used to be careful with its money and didn't like to have cap space tied up on players for many years like Boozer. I could easily see them doing a trade where they get back far less talent than they give up just to get out of Boozer's (and maybe Okur's too) contract.

Boozer's not an all-star. He's not a superstar or a franchise player. What he is is a very solid role player who will give you 18/10 and about average defense. He's not worth his contract and no GM concerned about contracts is going to want to take back his contract. But if you're not concerned about payroll, you might be able to steal him from Utah for something very little.

I don't know that I would call 18/10 a solid role player, but, true, he isn't an all star.

I'd be happy to trade for him, but you really do need to move KT at the same time.

He is young though.

That would be the plan. KT could be moved to a contender after the Boozer trade is made.

The big part of the trade is to get Harpring also. Harp is a Knick. He is a tough customer and he is the anti Tim Thomas. Ariza is the future at the 3 spot but Harp is a nice player to have ahead of him with JYD still around for insurance.

Taylor and Rose could also serve as insurance for Booze. The Key would then be whoever the Knicks sign to play center. If this trade goes down Frye would make tons of sense.

It's definately something to pitch at Utah to see if it intrests them.

I agree about Childs. He was very useful when he was a Knick. Also, how can we forget the 1-2 combination he gave to Kobe? Awesome!

Boozer needs a playmaker to be effective. He is the classic PF. A windex man. A garbage man. He excelled in Cleveland because he had LeBron to feed him. He didn't have that in Utah. Maybe he can get that back with Marbury. My only advice to Carlos when he gets here. Don't piss-off Marbury or you would get traded again.

Posted by Bonn1997:

I consider the "five-headed monster" irrelevant b/c you can easily pull off a "weatherspoon-for-norris" type of trade. Steal a good PF like Boozer the first second you can. Then pull off one or two lateral trades getting rid of the PFs.

Yeah Boozer would benefit by playing with Steph. Hes a very good player. He's young and tough. Steven Hunter would be great beside him.

Posted by EnySpree:

Wow talking about Boozer sure makes you forget about Sweetney right?

Sweetney would be a wonderful backup PF even if we had Boozer but anyone who watched last season knows that Boozer's development is WAY ahead of Sweetney's.

[Edited by - Bonn1997 on 05/31/2005 13:56:36]

Posted by djsunyc:

exactly tes. boozer does not give us anything head and shoulders better than the 5 headed monster we have now

KT, Sweetney, Malik, JYD, Mo T or Boozer...hmm, i think i'd much rather have Boozer...maybe that's just me.

[Edited by - TMS on 05/31/2005 16:57:45]