Trade Marbury and #30 for Olowakandi and Cassell

Malik Rose for Lammond Murray

Trade Mo Taylor +2006 pick for Pollard and Anthony Johnson

Trade Kurt Thomas + 2005 + 2006 second round picks for Tierre Brown and Devean George

That leaves us at about 37 mill in the 2006 season( not counting If Ariza gets resigned, about 40 mill when he gets resigned)

then the 2007 season we lose 20 mill(houston contract) we will be at a lil over 18 mill(21 mill with Ariza resigned) this idea is a huge decision one that im not really in favor of but I just wanted to show that we can get under the cap in a few years and still have the core of Ariza, Crawford, Sweets and #8 pick

Please don't tell me you'd seriously consider these moves.
I started reading this and thought it was a joke to prove a point.

this idea is a huge decision one that im not really in favor of

Relieved to read that atleast.

I know we have to do something about our cap situation at some point, but that is alot of picks we're giving up. If we're looking to unload Marb's contract, I still think we can do better than taking on Kandi and Cassel, as well as giving up #30.

[Edited by - MaTT4281 on 05/29/2005 20:32:03]

I agree, getting under the cap/close to the cap figure is good, but wins shouldn't come at the expense of it. If we have the money, why not spend it, as long as it is done reasonably (which wasn't happening in the past few years). You only have to look at the yankees to see what the absolute best case scenario of spending all your $$ is. Hopefully, we can make some shrewd moves and use our financial advantage in the upcoming years.

Posted by sbensol74:

arent they going to raise the cap this summer? it might help us out a lot.

Even if they do, I don't believe it will be significant enough to change things at all...

Posted by teslawlo:

I agree, getting under the cap/close to the cap figure is good, but wins shouldn't come at the expense of it. If we have the money, why not spend it, as long as it is done reasonably (which wasn't happening in the past few years). You only have to look at the yankees to see what the absolute best case scenario of spending all your $$ is. Hopefully, we can make some shrewd moves and use our financial advantage in the upcoming years.

There isn't a salary cap in baseball, so it's an entirely different situation. we can spend a lot of money on players whose bird rights we have, but we can't go out and spend more than the MLE on any free agent until we are under the cap.
As far as none of the teams in the playoffs being under the cap - the point of being under the cap is so that you can sign free agents that are in demand (not the players with good stats that people are willing to unload for expiring contracts). Once you are in that situation, you will probably go above the cap to sign good players. The problem is the Knicks keep trading away expiring deals for mediocre players (i.e. the ewing deal followed by the eisley/anderson debacle, and the mo taylor deal this year). They never get under the cap so they can sign a free agent that is actually in demand.
The advantage of at least being near the cap is that you can let a contract expire or trade for an expiring deal and pick up a free agent during the summer - flexibility gives you the option of being under the cap and signing someone. I don't necessarily think we should unload the whole team AND our draft picks, but I don't think we can ever get a winning team together by taking players that nobody else wants. Maybe if we were a contender and needed to add an extra piece (like the Sheed deal for Detroit), but as a consistently lottery bound team, we need to find another way to get players here.

Posted by nyk4ever:

I thought you were going to say that you were going to find a way to make the team plane go down. That would put us under the cap REAL FAST.

lol thats fck'd up

The better idea would be to let the contracts end. TT and Penny this year. Next year H20 and Taylor along with Rose. That right there gets the Knicks in the respectable territory. Next year if TT and Penny walk they are down to 75 million. After that Let H20 and Taylor and Rose walk you are at almost 40 million. Add say increase in salaries to the players left and you are looking at 50 million. Close enough to make thing happen with sound moves.

Yeah, I'm with Bonn. Let Isiah do his thing, being under the cap guarantees nothing nowadays. Unless there's a real good FA class coming (and there isn't), I wouldn't do something as gung-ho as this.

In a few years when LeBron's about to be a FA and is fed up with Cleveland? Yeah, then I'd do it.

How the hell do we trade a top tier guard (Marbury) for a bum (Kandi)and a good, but very old (35)and brittle pg (Cassell); AND give them a pick???

Thats really ridiculous. That trade makes Minny contenders again if KG and Steph decide they can work it out. They would have to give us a pick if they wanted to do that trade. I would never do it either way.

Getting under the cap is overated, especially since I feel we are in a position to improve as a team for the long run and the short run.




[Edited by - Killa4luv on 05/30/2005 00:59:52]

the New York Knicks organization has no plans to get under the salary cap.


Knowing is half the battle

the New York Knicks organization has no plans to get under the salary cap.

Ding ding ding...we have a winner! That I'm afraid is the sad fact.