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Video Clips of Fran Vasquez + Tiago Splitter
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Killa4luv
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5/26/2005  1:30 PM
http://www.acb.com/menu.php?id=83

Scroll and find the names and then click em. I have to say Splitter looks very unimpressive. he isn't doing anything Bruno or Travis knight couldn't do against these 6-5 guys that are guarding them. His dunks and body looks weak and unimpressive.

Fran Vasques appears to be stronger and have better body control. Basing my opinion solely on these clips, Fran Vasquez appears to be the stronger player, who gets up to dunk the ball much quicker and more fluidly.
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5/26/2005  1:45 PM
check out that clip of Rudy Fernandez towards the bottom of the page.

this part.....

Jornada 13 (Ocho clips y artículo de la semana)

and

looks at Gelabale at Jornada 8!


[Edited by - gunsnewing on 05/26/2005 13:49:40]
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5/26/2005  1:47 PM
Vazquez might be playing against easier competition than Spitter. or are they in the same league DarkKnicks? Splitter gets off the ground better. more ups.

[Edited by - gunsnewing on 05/26/2005 13:51:16]
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5/26/2005  1:53 PM
wow!!!

looks how high Gelabale gets in Jornada 18!
his head reaches the rim!

and look how high he gets up for that rebound in Jornada 9!

We already heard how good he is defensively and that Isiah liked him. I can see him having a richard jefferson like career. His shot may struggle at first but he's a dunking machine! definitely a possibility with one of the later picks. It would be great if he somehow dropped to #54

Imagine Bynum, Splitter/Blatche & Gelabale on the Knicks next season!

[Edited by - gunsnewing on 05/26/2005 14:00:28]
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5/26/2005  2:39 PM
i was impressed by splitter. he is quicker and seemed to have more hops than vasquez. i do agree that his body is not there yet but it is the same as gasol. he turned out to be a nice player. scrolling down i saw a name o haven't heard in awhile: new jersey's own lou roe. man, he had a good college career but failed in the nba. this is the reason you can not take european competition seriously. lou roe was in half of the highlight reels looking like barkley.
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5/26/2005  3:43 PM
Fran Vasquez is nothing but arms. I love his clips. Still they were just highlights of him dunking. In that way he looks alot like Rasheed Wallace. Fran definately has more strength than Splitter. I could see him stepping in right away like the scouts say. I still need to see him shoot and post up.

I don't care about Tiago Splitter. He still doesn't impress me. He definately looks like Pau Gasol. Still Gasol came into the league ready to play. I don't see Splitter doing that. He doesn't look confident. I've seen the guy play twice and he sucked in my opinion. I could be wrong, but he looks like he needs some vitamins or some CRUNK Juice he has no energy or strength.

Gelabale's hair looks terrible. I have dreads myself. Whatever that is on his head looks like a giant Gerbil just unloaded his bowels. Still he didn't do anything that spectacular besides showing his hops. What else can he do?
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5/26/2005  3:49 PM
Posted by Killa4luv:

http://www.acb.com/menu.php?id=83

Scroll and find the names and then click em. I have to say Splitter looks very unimpressive. he isn't doing anything Bruno or Travis knight couldn't do against these 6-5 guys that are guarding them. His dunks and body looks weak and unimpressive.

Fran Vasques appears to be stronger and have better body control. Basing my opinion solely on these clips, Fran Vasquez appears to be the stronger player, who gets up to dunk the ball much quicker and more fluidly.

Awesome find by the way bro......

I agree with you Splitter comments. That dude is just not impressing me.

Vasques looks like he actually has a game. He could stand to gain weight but he is strong already and looks confident and sure of himself. With those arms I could see him playing center. I like him but I'm not too sure if I'd take him at #8.....I wouldn't be mad though. I just gotta see him shoot it and make a move with the ball.

[Edited by - enyspree on 05/26/2005 15:50:52]
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5/26/2005  3:49 PM
Splitter dunks will a lot more authority which shows he has more strength. just look at the way he is able to hang on the rim whereas Vazquez barely reaches the rim and is all arms like you said. Splitter moves great. He has excellent footwork. Only question is will his offense come along. I think it will since he's got the footwork already. Vazquez is more of a slighty better Frederic Weis to me.
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5/26/2005  3:57 PM
Posted by gunsnewing:

Splitter dunks will a lot more authority which shows he has more strength. just look at the way he is able to hang on the rim whereas Vazquez barely reaches the rim and is all arms like you said. Splitter moves great. He has excellent footwork. Only question is will his offense come along. I think it will since he's got the footwork already. Vazquez is more of a slighty better Frederic Weis to me.

Oh man why you gotta say Fred Weis? Fran did not look like no Fred Weis. That's not even fair.

http://www.acb.com/video/200405_J13_franvazquez.avi

Check this clip alone. Fran knows what he needs to do with that basketball......with authority!

[Edited by - enyspree on 05/26/2005 16:05:01]
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5/26/2005  4:06 PM
Posted by EnySpree:
Posted by gunsnewing:

Splitter dunks will a lot more authority which shows he has more strength. just look at the way he is able to hang on the rim whereas Vazquez barely reaches the rim and is all arms like you said. Splitter moves great. He has excellent footwork. Only question is will his offense come along. I think it will since he's got the footwork already. Vazquez is more of a slighty better Frederic Weis to me.

Oh man why you gotta say Fred Weis? Fran did not look like no Fred Weis. That's not even fair.

Where did Splitter display footwork? They both were doing the same type of things. As far as authority? Fran was the one popping the rim with one handers and bending that rim back using both sides of the rim.

Like I said we'll soon find out what these guys can do. I just don't like Splitter at this point and would be highly upset if Isiah picked him.

there was a reason Weis was picked. its really easy to look at clips of a player and think he is amazing without ever watching him a couple of times.

Darkknicks watches both splitter and vazquez play and he likes Splitter and thinks Vazquez is a bum, which is a lot better than just comparing clips. not as high as 8 but definitely at 30 if splitter is there.
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5/26/2005  4:07 PM
Posted by EnySpree:
Posted by gunsnewing:

Splitter dunks will a lot more authority which shows he has more strength. just look at the way he is able to hang on the rim whereas Vazquez barely reaches the rim and is all arms like you said. Splitter moves great. He has excellent footwork. Only question is will his offense come along. I think it will since he's got the footwork already. Vazquez is more of a slighty better Frederic Weis to me.

Oh man why you gotta say Fred Weis? Fran did not look like no Fred Weis. That's not even fair.

http://www.acb.com/video/200405_J13_franvazquez.avi

Check this clip alone. Fran knows what he needs to do with that basketball......with authority!

[Edited by - enyspree on 05/26/2005 16:05:01]

Vazquez could be going up against smaller and worse defenders
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5/26/2005  4:40 PM
Posted by gunsnewing:

check out that clip of Rudy Fernandez towards the bottom of the page.

this part.....

Jornada 13 (Ocho clips y artículo de la semana)

and

looks at Gelabale at Jornada 8!


[Edited by - gunsnewing on 05/26/2005 13:49:40]
backwards! saw that, nice. i would'nt mind using the 30th pick on him if we already have a big. he'd mesh well in zeke's 3 guard lineup. i've heard nothing but good things about him, but i did'nt know he had hops like that. this could be a player overlooked by alot of people.
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5/26/2005  4:46 PM
Posted by daddynel:
Posted by gunsnewing:

check out that clip of Rudy Fernandez towards the bottom of the page.

this part.....

Jornada 13 (Ocho clips y artículo de la semana)

and

looks at Gelabale at Jornada 8!


[Edited by - gunsnewing on 05/26/2005 13:49:40]
backwards! saw that, nice. i would'nt mind using the 30th pick on him if we already have a big. he'd mesh well in zeke's 3 guard lineup. i've heard nothing but good things about him, but i did'nt know he had hops like that. this could be a player overlooked by alot of people.

yep I remember bringing his name up in a thread where we were discussing drafting a SG and no one responded. I think you are 100% correct..he's a guy who everyone is gonna overlook
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5/26/2005  5:01 PM
Posted by gunsnewing:
Posted by daddynel:
Posted by gunsnewing:

check out that clip of Rudy Fernandez towards the bottom of the page.

this part.....

Jornada 13 (Ocho clips y artículo de la semana)

and

looks at Gelabale at Jornada 8!


[Edited by - gunsnewing on 05/26/2005 13:49:40]
backwards! saw that, nice. i would'nt mind using the 30th pick on him if we already have a big. he'd mesh well in zeke's 3 guard lineup. i've heard nothing but good things about him, but i did'nt know he had hops like that. this could be a player overlooked by alot of people.

yep I remember bringing his name up in a thread where we were discussing drafting a SG and no one responded. I think you are 100% correct..he's a guy who everyone is gonna overlook
probably because nobody's seen him play.
hey Killa, if you got any more clips on rudy f. me and guns would sho preeshaytit.
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5/26/2005  9:02 PM
i don't know about tiago & vasquez.

don't you think that petro's video clip was more impressive? it showed great athleticism, good handle for a big guy, competitivenes & toughness, great body control, etc???

it's only clips of highlights, but tiago & vasquez look like their slow & weak.
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5/26/2005  9:09 PM
Posted by SKY:

i don't know about tiago & vasquez.

don't you think that petro's video clip was more impressive? it showed great athleticism, good handle for a big guy, competitivenes & toughness, great body control, etc???

it's only clips of highlights, but tiago & vasquez look like their slow & weak.

Tiago is not slow! I don't know what you're talking about. Yes maybe Petro is a little faster but keep in mind that those were just highlights. It doesn't mean Petro is better and he's not. Splitter and Vaquez excelled as the season went along and in the playoffs. Petro hasn't so his stock lowered

[Edited by - gunsnewing on 05/27/2005 01:40:56]
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5/26/2005  9:17 PM
What about Petro? Is he really knid of a Dalembert Episode II?
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5/26/2005  9:19 PM
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What about Petro? Is he really knid of a Dalembert Episode II?

he's problably better offensively but not as tall or strong and not as good a shotblocker.

Splitter and & Vazquez will be lotto picks. Petro won't he'll likely go between 16-30



[Edited by - gunsnewing on 05/26/2005 21:22:18]
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5/26/2005  9:30 PM
Posted by gunsnewing:
Posted by Knicksfan:

What about Petro? Is he really knid of a Dalembert Episode II?

he's problably better offensively but not as tall or strong and not as good a shotblocker.

Splitter and & Vazquez will be lotto picks. Petro won't he'll likely go between 16-30



[Edited by - gunsnewing on 05/26/2005 21:22:18]

If he's there at 30, I won't cry at all
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5/26/2005  9:38 PM
Posted by Knicksfan:
Posted by gunsnewing:
Posted by Knicksfan:

What about Petro? Is he really knid of a Dalembert Episode II?

he's problably better offensively but not as tall or strong and not as good a shotblocker.

Splitter and & Vazquez will be lotto picks. Petro won't he'll likely go between 16-30



[Edited by - gunsnewing on 05/26/2005 21:22:18]

If he's there at 30, I won't cry at all

nope. not at all!
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