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djsunyc
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4/25/2005  10:03 AM
nazr, dice, spoon, othella, ward, kvh, doleac, shandon, deke, etc...

all of them are in better situations than when they were here. all of them are in the playoffs with a few exceptions (eisley, frank on IR) but all of them are on better teams and contributing.

i'm not making this a trade thread nor bashing isiah's moves, i'm just pointing something out - that's all
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4/25/2005  10:10 AM
right Nazr really tore it up lastnight in the 93-87 Spurs lost to the Nuggets!

the only guy who I care about from that list is KVH since I still believe he's better than TT and he's not even worth dwelling over. Dice is solid but not the Dice we were hoping for after all the Knee surguries.

I like Mutombo but he is 40+

[Edited by - gunsnewing on 04/25/2005 10:11:24]
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4/25/2005  10:18 AM
Posted by gunsnewing:

right Nazr really tore it up lastnight in the 93-87 Spurs lost to the Nuggets!

the only guy who I care about from that list is KVH since I still believe he's better than TT and he's not even worth dwelling over. Dice is solid but not the Dice we were hoping for after all the Knee surguries.

I like Mutombo but he is 40+

[Edited by - gunsnewing on 04/25/2005 10:11:24]

Guns look closely at KVH - he truly is a bum. He's now in a position where he's only looked to come off the bench and try to add some instant offense. No other responsibilities to start or be a leader in any way. KVH=TT. Both fool's gold. No more, no less.

[Edited by - marv on 04/25/2005 10:18:26]
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4/25/2005  10:20 AM
Posted by Marv:
Posted by gunsnewing:

right Nazr really tore it up lastnight in the 93-87 Spurs lost to the Nuggets!

the only guy who I care about from that list is KVH since I still believe he's better than TT and he's not even worth dwelling over. Dice is solid but not the Dice we were hoping for after all the Knee surguries.

I like Mutombo but he is 40+

[Edited by - gunsnewing on 04/25/2005 10:11:24]


Guns look closely at KVH - he truly is a bum. He's now in a position where he's only looked to come off the bench and try to add some instant offense. No other responsibilities to start or be a leader in any way. KVH=TT. Both fool's gold. No more, no less.

[Edited by - marv on 04/25/2005 10:18:26]

oh i agree! thats why he's nothing to dwell over but I'd still take him off the bench over TT. He's just a better player 17 & 7 as a starter compared to 13 & 3
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4/25/2005  10:22 AM
MS the difference is those guys are role players on those teams. They were starters here like shandon, deke, nazr, kvh etc
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4/25/2005  10:27 AM
Nazr looked good last night, even though they lost. The guy is a ball magnet on the offensive boards.

Stat line:
Points : 15
Reb : 15
Ast : 1
Stl : 2
Blk : 4
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4/25/2005  10:30 AM
Posted by NYKBocker:

Nazr looked good last night, even though they lost. The guy is a ball magnet on the offensive boards.

Stat line:
Points : 15
Reb : 15
Ast : 1
Stl : 2
Blk : 4

SA is a good team! He should do well on a better team.
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4/25/2005  10:34 AM
like i've always said. Nazr is a heck of an offensive rebounder which is why he has a lot of double figure scoring games but you are basically playing 4 on 5 offensively with him on the floor which is why if he's a starter on your team you're screwed. Hence he was a starter on the Knicks, Hence we were screwed. Except when we played easy teams the 1st month of the season
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4/25/2005  10:34 AM
Posted by gunsnewing:

MS the difference is those guys are role players on those teams. They were starters here like shandon, deke, nazr, kvh etc
good point man. Not only are they role players, they are also addon's not part of a big plan.
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4/25/2005  10:43 AM
I wasn't lamenting the Isiah trades yesterday. I was lamenting the Layden trades.

Camby was the best player on the floor in the fourth quarter in San Antonio. Nene was huge in containing Duncan.
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4/25/2005  10:44 AM
Posted by crzymdups:

I wasn't lamenting the Isiah trades yesterday. I was lamenting the Layden trades.

Camby was the best player on the floor in the fourth quarter in San Antonio. Nene was huge in containing Duncan.

Exactly! and Nene
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4/25/2005  10:46 AM
it was mostly Camby containing Duncan down the stretch though. to think we had both!
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4/25/2005  10:46 AM
Posted by gunsnewing:

Exactly! and Nene
Oh man Nene!! MAN NENE!! I was honestly thinking the same thing as crzymdups last night. I was pissed that Layden built Denvers front line for them. And Nene was phenominal. mother****
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4/25/2005  10:50 AM
yeah watching that game lastnight was killing me!

it pisses me off even more than signing houston to that contract. At least we would've been a good team with houston on IR and Camby starting at Center and Nene as backup
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4/25/2005  10:51 AM
Posted by gunsnewing:

Camby starting at Center and Nene as backup
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4/25/2005  10:56 AM
Camby will probably always be my favorite Knick. I don't mind rooting for him on the Nuggs, but the fact that we had him AND Nene and we gave them both away for Dyess....sigh...Layden, I hate you.
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4/25/2005  10:59 AM
Look you guys are right but you also saw Duncan - that poor MF'er wasn't anywhere close to right. I love the Big Fundamental and if he were right he would have been handing Camby and Maybyner their ****.

Plus - I have a good friend in Denver who's ragging my ass nonstop right now. Can you imagine the f'g abuse I'm taking? I used to come back at him talking a whole lot of trash about his mother but she died so I can't do that anymore. I had to resort yesterday to ragging about what a little girl Carmelo is on the court, but that doesn't get me very far when the freakin' Nuggets win the game. Sh*t!
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4/25/2005  11:01 AM
Posted by Marv:

Look you guys are right but you also saw Duncan - that poor MF'er wasn't anywhere close to right. I love the Big Fundamental and if he were right he would have been handing Camby and Maybyner their ****.

Plus - I have a good friend in Denver who's ragging my ass nonstop right now. Can you imagine the f'g abuse I'm taking? I used to come back at him talking a whole lot of trash about his mother but she died so I can't do that anymore. I had to resort yesterday to ragging about what a little girl Carmelo is on the court, but that doesn't get me very far when the freakin' Nuggets win the game. Sh*t!
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4/25/2005  11:06 AM
Posted by gunsnewing:

it was mostly Camby containing Duncan down the stretch though. to think we had both!


for about 15 minutes we had both guys, one can only dread, I guess. I mean layden dumped both of those guys right in denvers lap, and we got back a former star player comming off two major knee surgeries.. Those types of deal is what was completely wrong with the layden years....
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4/25/2005  12:07 PM
Nazr was flat out impressive last night and I stand with my arguement saying that he was a big reason for our 3 games above .500 record last December.
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