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fishmike
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4/8/2005  7:18 AM
http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/recap;_ylc=X3oDMTBpZmFlcXBpBF9TAzk1ODYxOTQ4BHNlYwN0aA--?gid=2005040717&prov=ap


Jason Kidd kept the New Jersey Nets' playoff hopes alive with his 66th career triple-double and fourth-quarter shove that pretty much put the New York Knicks in their place.

``Kidd is amazing, he does it every night,'' Knicks forward Kurt Thomas said. ``He brings it and he gets everyone involved.''

``I don't get excited about playing them any more,'' Kidd said of the Knicks. ``They're just another bad team. I don't get excited playing bad teams.''


Man... we were down 27 points to a frontcourt of Scalaweenie, Krstic and Collins. Unreal how bad this team is
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4/8/2005  7:24 AM
Posted by fishmike:

[url]``I don't get excited about playing them any more,'' Kidd said of the Knicks. ``They're just another bad team. I don't get excited playing bad teams.''[/i]

That is a great quote. We totally deserve that.
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4/8/2005  7:27 AM
[b]Posted by fishmike:[/b
Man... we were down 27 points to a frontcourt of Scalaweenie, Krstic and Collins. Unreal how bad this team is

I really can't stand Scalabrine. I wanted a Knick to knock him totally on his ass last night. He made a faggy little alley oop to Carter then pranced around like he was Will Ferrell in "Elf."
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4/8/2005  7:31 AM
Posted by Marv:
[b]Posted by fishmike:[/b
Man... we were down 27 points to a frontcourt of Scalaweenie, Krstic and Collins. Unreal how bad this team is

I really can't stand Scalabrine. I wanted a Knick to knock him totally on his ass last night. He made a faggy little alley oop to Carter then pranced around like he was Will Ferrell in "Elf."
its so humiliating.. I dont know any other way to say it. Kidd with that little smirk on his face the whole game. He owns us and he owns Marbury. That team is like the living embodiment of our failures.
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4/8/2005  9:49 AM
i posted this on the other thread but i guess it applies to this thread:

get rid of the gutless pukes: TT, Mo T, Sweetney, Penny
get more guys like JYD, who was practically the ONLY guy showing any semblence of heart tonight.

the Nets were totally embarassing these guys & the only guy who decided to make a statement was JYD, both w/the hard pick on Kidd & on the hard foul on Vince as he tried to penetrate for the dunk when the game was well in hand for the Nets late...i would rather have a team full of JYD's than this current disgraceful collection of gutless pukes anyday.

sorry for my venting, but everytime the Knicks get so utterly embarassed by the Nets & i have to see those jackoffs laughing & smiling while their teammates are dunking all over the Knicks at will, i feel like punching a hole through my wall.

in the end, i'm happy they lost tonight because we're chasing the lottery pick, but it still ticks me off to see these guys play w/no emotion (except for that short run they had in the 4th quarter that was spurred on by JYD & Crawford)

here's Jason Kidd's entire comments (thanks to bballfreak of the Zone)
When asked if he still gets fired up to play the Knicks, Kidd said, "I did when I first got here, but it doesn't excite me anymore."

Kidd, who had 28 points, 10 rebounds and 12 assists for is seventh triple-double of the season and 28th in four seasons with the Nets, was asked why.

"It's just another bad team, that's why," Kidd said. "I don't get excited for bad teams."

The Knicks (29-45) lost their eighth straight game, a season high, and are one defeat or one Philadelphia victory from being eliminated from playoff contention.

Including last season's first-round playoff sweep, the Nets are 8-2 against the Knicks since they acquired Marbury from Phoenix on Jan. 5, 2004. The Nets are 3-1 against the Knicks this season and 3-0 since Marbury made his remarks.

When asked if he felt satisfied with the Nets' performance, Kidd, who tied a season high with 28 points, said: "No. It's just New York. Why would we be satisfied with beating New York? We've done it 19 or 20 times now."

Referring to the Knicks' status in the metropolitan area, Kidd said: "They're second place. They're behind us. So get excited? No."

wow...that is really just showing no semblence of class whatsoever...i mean you dominated the team, why go to the extent of bashing them like that?

Marbury got alot of flack for his "best PG in the NBA" proclamation, but it will be interesting to see if Jason Kidd gets any flack for this...my gut feeling is the Knicks won't do jack about it...

gutless pukes.

Steph's statement was dumb...but those comments make Kidd out to look like an immature punk to me...you'd never catch Jordan, Lebron, Ewing, Duncan, Malone, Iverson or any of the other greats of the game lowering themselves to that level...my guess is Kidd has a deep personal vendetta against someone on the Knicks team, or maybe he wanted to send a message to Marbury? who knows...all i know is this Knick team is going to brush that off just like they do everytime someone disrespects them...they've made it a habit...it sickens me, it really does.

man, if we could only bring Oakley back in his heyday...Jason Kidd would never make a statement like that, i don't care if they beat this Knicks team 20 times in a row.
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4/8/2005  9:55 AM
to be honest I would rather lose like this than some hard fought battle that management can blame on not having Houston. We are a 105mm team and we got smoked by the Nets with no RJ. We got abused by what might be the worst starting frontcourt in the NBA (next to ours)

I'm glad.. this just continues to dispell any illusion of how good we are.

The only guy I feel bad for Herb.. I bet he could have outplayed the Nets if he suited up himself.
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4/8/2005  9:56 AM
just to add, that pick that JYD set on Jason was nothing Kidd wouldn't have done himself on any other player...i didn't find anything dirty about it for him to get pissed off at JYD...maybe his comments after the game were because he was pissed at JYD for the hard foul on Vince? regardless, those 2 were former teammates & they might have had prior issues, who knows...Vince sure didn't seem to react badly to it.

to me, Kidd's reaction to JYD was just arrogant, like "who the hell are you to set a pick on me?"...i mean come on dude, it's called competing...a guy like JYD never stops playing no matter what the score is...Kidd should appreciate that & not be a punk about it...same thing happened w/Frank Williams last year...maybe Kidd should win some titles before he starts acting like he's Michael Jordan.

[Edited by - TMS on 04/08/2005 09:57:14]
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4/8/2005  9:58 AM
Amen to that. Kidd really f...ed up...That statment was horrendous.
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4/8/2005  10:18 AM
Kidd is an arrogant SOB, as was jordan, mourning, Ewing,etc. These guys will abuse you if they don't respect you!

Guys like gazy will help you up and laugh if he knocks you down.

Riles used to fine any KNick who helps another player up.

Kidd is not a good sport, but he is the top PG for a reason.
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4/8/2005  10:37 AM
it's karma people - we dominated them for 15 years and now it's their turn and they're taking advantage. kidd is one smart player and he's milking the knicks inferiority big time and he needs to if the nets want to build a serious fan base in the area.

it's not even funny how EVERY team in our conference has just a good, if not better, chance at improving this summer. if the nets somehow get swift via the trade exemption, then you're looking at:

kidd
vince
rj
swift
nenad

if lb leaves detroit, it's very possible that the nets are back in the finals hunt with miami.

boston is light years better already and toronto also has 2 #1's + cap space.

isiah better put on his genius hat or else it'll be more of the same next season.
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4/8/2005  10:45 AM
karma? i don't recall King, Cartwright, Ewing, Oakley, Starks, LJ, Houston, Camby, Spree or anyone else that played on the Knicks in the past several years disrespecting the Nets in that fashion, even when the Nets were a crappy team...& Jason Kidd knows nothing about the Nets being disrespected because they've been good ever since he's gotten there, so it can't be a result of him taking abuse at the hands of the Knicks over the years...it's just Jason Kidd being a punk, plain & simple...i don't care if he thinks the Knicks are garbage, for him to air it out in the media like that was, while completely true, still totally uncalled for...

again, if we had a guy like Charles Oakley on this team, Kidd would never have said something like that, i don't care how much they've dominated the Knicks over the past couple years.
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4/8/2005  10:53 AM
Posted by diderotn:

Amen to that. Kidd really f...ed up...That statment was horrendous.

the problem with kidds statements is that his team the nets are in the same boat, and don't give me that playoff crap, the nets will not make the playoffs, they are a horrible team also. that is what upsets me, if Jordan, makes that comment you can be damn sure his team would have 50+ wins. Kidd looks like a jackass with that remark.. I am suprised none of these NY reporters didn't call him out and ask him " well jason, aren't the nets a bad team also?"
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4/8/2005  11:08 AM
If you're going to dish it out, you'd better be able to take it. It was ok when Tim Thomas and Marbury were calling out Kenyon Martin, Collins and Kidd? Those Knicks started it and now Kidd is shoving it right back in their underachieving faces.
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4/8/2005  11:17 AM
dude, TT was calling out K-Mart only...not dissing the entire Nets team...& when did Marbury ever call out Kidd? am i missing something?

make your ****y statements after you've won a title, not when your own team is struggling to get over .500 & struggling to make the playoffs...just like Marbury's "best PG in the NBA" comments were stupid, so are these by Jason Kidd.
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4/8/2005  11:17 AM
to be fair Marbury never mentioned them, and we to a man KILLED TT for his fugazy crapola
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4/8/2005  11:38 AM
Posted by tkf:
Posted by diderotn:

Amen to that. Kidd really f...ed up...That statment was horrendous.

I saw when he made that statement during the post game interviews...I wanted to throw something at the TV!
the problem with kidds statements is that his team the nets are in the same boat, and don't give me that playoff crap, the nets will not make the playoffs, they are a horrible team also. that is what upsets me, if Jordan, makes that comment you can be damn sure his team would have 50+ wins. Kidd looks like a jackass with that remark.. I am suprised none of these NY reporters didn't call him out and ask him " well jason, aren't the nets a bad team also?"

exactly the problem i have with that team. they are all sooo arrogant! Richard Jefferson especially even when they went to the finals they weren't all that good! They were lucky that the East was in shambles then otherwise they would've never made it far like in the 90s! They proved it by getting embarrassed twice in finals by truly good teams. They haven't accomplish jack ****!

[Edited by - gunsnewing on 04/08/2005 11:40:05]
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4/8/2005  11:45 AM

Disrespect the NETS for year? Are you kidding? We bitchslapped them for years!

The nets are not a good team, but they are one that is doing a very fast rebuild for obvious reasons.

But what is impressive, they are playing and thinking they are in fact a GOOD team! They will add some pieces and be much better next year. They don't have to change the culture and thinking of the team.

We are a good team that does not think that way! I don't know all the problems of the team, but I admire the Nets for that moxie. They are playing with a purpose. They never had that team whole all year. First if was Just Jefferson, then kidd, and eventually Vince. Vince and Jeff I think only played a game or two.

What have the knicks earned to garner the Nets respect? It aint' about having an enforcer around, its about winning and confidence!

YOu thing Kidd was not pumped when he heard Marbs say he was the best?

When the knicks have any shred of self esteem and start being confident, they will have self respect, and then and only then could anyone respect them!

YOu think teams don't want to just kill a team who makes the most amount of money? Remember those kids in High school that thought they were better cuz their parents were rich? They got no props unless they actually did somthing!

Our back court is over the cap by itself! While players don't begrudge the money, but im sure they enjoy beating on the knicks!



[Edited by - nalod on 04/08/2005 12:00:55]
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4/8/2005  11:53 AM
Personally I think we're being too touchy here. If we don't like Kidd's statements, then we should do something about them by beating his team in the game of basketball. In the meantime, we do suck, and if Jason Kidd has reason to point it out, so be it. If we whine about that too, we're just furthering our new identity as whiny prima donnas.
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4/8/2005  12:03 PM
Keep up more of this and the brooklyn nets wont see too much support in new york, not that they'd get it from me anyway.

"Referring to the Knicks' status in the metropolitan area, Kidd said: 'They're second place. They're behind us. So get excited? No.'"

Yeha Right, maybe in numbers these past couple of season, but the history of New York never fades and neither do the real fans.

When asked if he felt satisfied with the Nets' performance, Kidd, who tied a season high with 28 points, said: "No. It's just New York. Why would we be satisfied with beating New York? We've done it 19 or 20 times now."


That comment doesn't sound like it was from someone who didn't take any satisfaction from it to rub it in like that. Its very childish. A simple 'not the way it used to' would have done it. A lot of our new guys didn't know what the whole rivalry was about but they do now and I expect everyone to step it up next season in hopefully dish another couple of the last celtic style blowouts. And if the nets do make it to the playoffs, I hope flash & shaq-man wipe the floor with the nets, or at least just jason A.k.a. wifebeater kidd. Yes, net fans, I went there.
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4/8/2005  12:06 PM
Posted by fishmike:

to be fair Marbury never mentioned them, and we to a man KILLED TT for his fugazy crapola

Weren't Marbury's comments based on a question about Kidd? It was pretty obvious that Marbury was saying that he was better than Kidd when he said what he said. And it doesn't matter that we killed TT for his fugazy crap, it's the Nets (you talk about 2 starters like that and you insult the whole team) who it was aimed at.

Anyway, if the Knicks had shown any respect to the Nets, I'm sure Kidd would never have said what he said. You reap what you sow.
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