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BRIGGS
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3/23/2005  12:41 AM
13 pts 21 reb 8 blocks
this guy has been on a role the last month
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3/23/2005  12:44 AM
Seeing guys like Pryzbilla do well make me upset, knowing we should've taken a chance on him instead of signing Baker to part of the MLE. Its taken a while for Pryz to do well but his defense and rebounding are solid.
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3/23/2005  1:46 AM
don't get caught up over players with inflated stats on bad teams.
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3/23/2005  8:46 AM
Posted by Masterplan:

don't get caught up over players with inflated stats on bad teams.

think Dampier
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3/23/2005  8:56 AM
Posted by gunsnewing:
Posted by Masterplan:

don't get caught up over players with inflated stats on bad teams.

think Dampier

Fair enough, but I predict that Damps will redeem himself in the playoffs. That is going to be one dangerous team in the playoffs with Damps, Dirk, Finley, Howard, Daniel, Terry and Harris. nothing would give me more pleasure than if they knock off that wanna-be Phoenix team. What a phoney-baloney team that is. Watch for their playoff collapse.
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3/23/2005  9:14 AM
Posted by VDesai:

Seeing guys like Pryzbilla do well make me upset, knowing we should've taken a chance on him instead of signing Baker to part of the MLE. Its taken a while for Pryz to do well but his defense and rebounding are solid.
I'll go on the assumption that the Baker signing was an implicit part of the Crawford deal. Otherwise, I don't think any of us would support giving Baker 70% of the MLE.
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3/23/2005  9:33 AM
Posted by Masterplan:

don't get caught up over players with inflated stats on bad teams.

what do rebounds and blocks do for anyone on a bad team? do the other teams stand in front of him to let him block the ball or get out of his way to rebound?
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3/23/2005  9:42 AM
Posted by BRIGGS:

13 pts 21 reb 8 blocks
this guy has been on a role the last month

season averages:
PPG 5.8
RPG 7.2
BPG 1.7

he's still a stiff...Nazr had a 22 & 18 game earlier this year as a Knick too...i'd take him over Pryzbilla anyday.

[Edited by - TMS on 03/23/2005 09:43:14]
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3/23/2005  9:58 AM
Spoon had 12 last night and Deke had 8 points and 15 rebounds....everyone has a good night now and again, although i would still love to have mutumbo he made the game fun to watch
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3/23/2005  10:18 AM
pryzbilla has ALWAYS been a top rebound per 48 min guy. he just never got the minutes so these #'s are not one night aberrations. briggs is right, it's players like these that we need to be acquiring, not vin baker, jermaine jackson, or brewer.

butler was a step in the right direction but pryzbilla would've easily helped us now and probably would've taken over the starting C spot when nazr went down.
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Posted by MS:

Spoon had 12 last night and Deke had 8 points and 15 rebounds....everyone has a good night now and again, although i would still love to have mutumbo he made the game fun to watch
since joel started getting real PT, hes had like 20 great games


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3/23/2005  10:36 AM
I would love to get this guy, but with the minutes he's getting now, I doubt he'd be available for the full MLE.
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3/23/2005  10:49 AM
Posted by Masterplan:

don't get caught up over players with inflated stats on bad teams.
What about Iverson? Nevermind
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3/23/2005  10:56 AM
Posted by crzymdups:

I would love to get this guy, but with the minutes he's getting now, I doubt he'd be available for the full MLE.

oh, nevermind, he's signed through next season.
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3/23/2005  11:49 AM
Considering he is actually somewhat of a shotblocker, and we had no backup center all year, not evne bothering to go after him or any other backup C with the LLE or the remaining MLE was beyond idiotic by IT.

If we had a guy getting 4 4 1 of the bench we prolly would have won like 10 more games.
A glimmer of hope maybe?!?
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3/23/2005  1:07 PM
Posted by simrud:

Considering he is actually somewhat of a shotblocker, and we had no backup center all year, not evne bothering to go after him or any other backup C with the LLE or the remaining MLE was beyond idiotic by IT.

If we had a guy getting 4 4 1 of the bench we prolly would have won like 10 more games.
Doesn't Jackie Butler probably have much more upside than Pryzbilla? Shouldn't Isiah get more credit for getting Butler than criticism for not getting Pryzbilla? He also used up the final roster spot by signing Ariza. (You don't have to sign your second round picks.) Shouldn't he get more credit for signing Ariza than criticism for not signing Pryzbilla? (Or does Pryzbilla have more upside than Ariza and Butler combined?)
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3/23/2005  2:20 PM
How can you say Jackie Butler has more upside then Pryz? We know absoulutely nothing about BUtler except that he had some good CBA stats and made a layup last night. Pryz is a former 1st rounder who has a starter this season (he's started 35 games, averaged 29.3 mpg) is averaging 8.6 pts, 10.2 rebs, 2.4 blocks. You know what? I'd rather have that what Nazr was giving us this year. And he costs only 1.6 mil this year and 1.7 next year. This is EXACTLY the type of cheap acquisition that Zeke could have and should've made.

What does Ariza have to do with anything?
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3/23/2005  2:27 PM
What on Earth makes you say Butler has more upside than Pryzbilla? We've seen him in about 30 seconds of play and the only thing he did was catch a feed from Jermaine Jackson and score the easy layup.

I haven't been watching the Portland games, so I can't say how good Joel is, but I have been paying attention to his stats b/c of fantasy basketball. The guy has been on a tear for about a month and a half to 2 months now in terms of stats, so on the stats page, he sure isn't acting like a stiff. I can't criticize Isiah for not going after him though, b/c before this season, he was a stiff, and we already have Bruno. So what was the point? I mean, at the time, the only thing that made less sense was signing Vin Baker, oh wait...

Anyway, hopefully for Joel, he keeps this up.
“Whenever I’m about to do something, I think ‘Would an idiot do that?’ and if they would, I do NOT do that thing.”- Dwight Schrute
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3/23/2005  2:33 PM
I'm sure keeping Bruno, Brewer, Mooch and gettin Vin Baker was so necessary that another roster spot was out of the questoin?

And just btw, if you want to evaluate the entire roster spot usage, how about not resigning Demarr who is playin well for Denver, and who we could have really used this year as well after we bought out Anderson and w/ all the injuires to the SG's on the team.

Let's see, IT has filled the end of the bench with unplayable garbage, failed to keep Demarr, did not use the LLE or part of the MLE to get a real backup C, but the fact that he has signed some CBA prospect to a 10 day somehow validates all that?

And like somebody already asked, what he heck does Ariza have to do with this? Why don't be bring up the fact that Layen sucked. That will make your argument even better.
A glimmer of hope maybe?!?
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3/23/2005  5:02 PM
Pryz is an unathletic tall slow player. I think he's reached his potential at 6 PPG and 7 RPG (unless he gets huge minutes on an awful team). He's been in the league many years and never shown that he's capable of being more than a mediocre role player. Butler, in contrast, is a very athletic 19 year old. You really think the high end of his upside is to become a Pryzbilla type player?
I think I also said that Butler and Ariza combined have more upside than Pryzbilla
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