Marbs is a pick and roll point guard. Webber would totally benifit from that. Aside from that.....the Philly guys are just watching Ivo take over. Philly has some really good talent over there. They all need a good point to get them involved. Plus Webber is not going anywhere.....

Iverson needs the ball and loves to take over games. The Knicks are dying for someone to be greedy and just carry the team.

Get er' dun(a la Blue collar cable guy comedian)

Philly's not trading us Answer for Marbury in a million years...Answer is simply in a different league...it would take the lottery pick & another future pick in all likelihood to get Philly to even remotely consider it, & even then it would take alot more since to part w/their franchise guy that means so much to that city & the fans, it would take an overwhelming offer.

I just wanna nip all the Mo Taylor non-sense.

In a political sense this trade would never happen. Iverson has all but asked for a trade in so many words. They will never trade him probably even if he held a press conference stating he will not report again till he's traded.

Still.....imagine the swap. Talent for Talent.....Iverson has out grown Philly. Marbs may have out grown his welcome in NY.

Something to ponder.

Philly needs a guy that will at least make an attempt to pass. Iverson looks to score no matter who is open. The Knicks need that.

Posted by TMS:

talent for talent, it would take alot more than Marbury to get Iverson too.

It would probably take a lot more than Iverson for Isiah to consider trading Marbury too

Posted by TMS:

Posted by Bonn1997:

Posted by TMS:

talent for talent, it would take alot more than Marbury to get Iverson too.

It would probably take a lot more than Iverson for Isiah to consider trading Marbury too

please, if you believe that you're kidding yourself.

You really think Isiah would trade Stephon for Iverson? Whether Iverson is better than Marbury is a different debate. The notion that Isiah would trade Marbury for Iverson is hard to imagine

We're probably better off agreeing to disagree on the topic of whether Isiah would trade Marbury for Iverson since neither of us is gonna change their views

The Knicks need a low post presence. Iverson is a great player but he can't defend in the blocks

well, if i was isaih, i wouldn't trade marbury for iverson also. here is the main reason. iverson WILL wear down in three years. we saw that last year and it is starting to happen this year. the style that iverson plays and his frame makes him a huge risk to trade for. sure he is top ten talen and in some people's mind top five. but he has too many issues and baggage. both are similar in which they are hard to complement on the court. they can be a gm's dream but also a nightmare.

Good points by Jazz74 and Silverfeul. I STILL think Iverson is way better than Marbury, however, I think I changed my mind slightly, but it would depend on the scenario. If you have a team that could be ready to compete for a championship in a year or 2, then I say you have to pull the trigger for Iverson. However, we are not in that position one bit, and as much as Iverson is a better defender, overall, than Marbury, I think we'd have to be more future minded when it comes to Marbury and trading for a guy like Iverson, for the reasons that Jazz74 stated.

However, you can turn it around and say that Marbury has lost some athleticism too, b/c he doesn't jump NEARLY as high as he once used to and he doesn't have the lateral quickness of Iverson either. Marbury takes just as much a beating as Iverson, at times, when he drives to the basket. Therefore, Marbury can just as easily break down in 2 or 3 years. So again, b/c Iverson IS the better player, and since they might both be in the same position, trading Iverson for Marbury would give us the benefit.

Posted by Allanfan20:

Good points by Jazz74 and Silverfeul. I STILL think Iverson is way better than Marbury, however, I think I changed my mind slightly, but it would depend on the scenario. If you have a team that could be ready to compete for a championship in a year or 2, then I say you have to pull the trigger for Iverson. However, we are not in that position one bit, and as much as Iverson is a better defender, overall, than Marbury, I think we'd have to be more future minded when it comes to Marbury and trading for a guy like Iverson, for the reasons that Jazz74 stated.

However, you can turn it around and say that Marbury has lost some athleticism too, b/c he doesn't jump NEARLY as high as he once used to and he doesn't have the lateral quickness of Iverson either. Marbury takes just as much a beating as Iverson, at times, when he drives to the basket. Therefore, Marbury can just as easily break down in 2 or 3 years. So again, b/c Iverson IS the better player, and since they might both be in the same position, trading Iverson for Marbury would give us the benefit.

We've debated extensively who's better Marbury or Iverson; I'm not gonna repeat it, but I'll just add that I'll be a little impressed if Iverson can finally make the playoffs this year after many years of missing it. I'll address the other aspects of your post.

However, you can turn it around and say that Marbury has lost some athleticism too, b/c he doesn't jump NEARLY as high as he once used to

I'm not sure that he can't jump as high as he used to or he just doesn't want to risk injury doing alley-oop dunks. I think he's realized he can be just as effective without being a high-flyer. I don't think it's a loss of athleticisim; just a gain of intelligent decision-making.

Marbury takes just as much a beating as Iverson, at times, when he drives to the basket. Therefore, Marbury can just as easily break down in 2 or 3 years.

There's a reason why Marbury hasn't missed nearly as many games over his career as Iverson has. Marbury has a much stronger frame that can take the beating much better.



[Edited by - Bonn1997 on 03/22/2005 14:18:12]

Posted by tkf:

And to say Iverson is WAAAAAAY better than marbs is ridiculous, we are talking about two fantastic players, It is like saying Garnett is Waaaaay better than duncan, that is a joke. We are not talking Iverson and earl watson here... lets get real..

Good point.