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BigRedDog
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3/18/2005  1:14 AM
I think this is someone we should really try to get in the offseason. He's only 26 yrs old , 6"10 great player who's value is as low as its going to get. Who knows what it would take, Lakers need players. What do you guys think?
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3/18/2005  4:32 AM
Who would we offer? He'd be a good pickup if the price were right.
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3/18/2005  7:06 AM
tt and mo taylor
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3/18/2005  8:00 AM
I love O, but we don't have enough to offer for him, Kurt & TT's expiring contract maybe
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3/18/2005  8:05 AM
Posted by Caseloads:

tt and mo taylor

Case, would you possibly accept this offer if you were LA?

Last night's game against the Heat shows why something is seriously wrong in LA. Either the coach is an idiot or Odom has no backbone. Why should Lamar take 9 shots in 43 minutes while Kobe takes 23 in 46, Atkins takes 18 in 41, and Caron Butler takes 14 in 36? I mean for crying out loud Brian Grant took 9 in 19. Brian freaking Grant!!!
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3/18/2005  9:08 AM
I would love to add Lamar Odom, but I think the ideal player to have playing with Marbury is a pure back to the basket player because Marbury has outstanding half-court skills on offense. Zach Randolph and maybe Eddy Curry and Nene are three players I'd target and give up a lot for. Shareef would be a lower cost but still solid alternative. (I'm assuming Antoine Walker will be off the market because things are going great in Boston for him.) Kwame would be a last resort but still worth pursuing.

[Edited by - Bonn1997 on 03/18/2005 09:08:57]
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3/18/2005  9:25 AM
Bonn you have to be kidding, you would give up a lot to get Randolph he is terrible for any team looking to play together...He is a selfish bitch, Portland made a big mistake by not trading him to a team stupid enough to give that trouble maker an extension......

And i think the lakers will listen to some offers....if we give them Craw and sweetney for Odom i bet they would listen, and we would still have marbury, kurt, ariza, and a couple of picks and some nice veteran talent to put in there....and by the graces of god a healthy allan houston, we could be dangerous.....
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3/18/2005  9:30 AM
I like Odom too....but why would they need Craw if they already have Kobe???? You know that Craw is due more than $50 million....Sweetney, Kurt and TT's contract for Odoms and Medvedenko would do...They can always use the expiring contract to go after a big man like Yao next season...


Posted by MS:

Bonn you have to be kidding, you would give up a lot to get Randolph he is terrible for any team looking to play together...He is a selfish bitch, Portland made a big mistake by not trading him to a team stupid enough to give that trouble maker an extension......

And i think the lakers will listen to some offers....if we give them Craw and sweetney for Odom i bet they would listen, and we would still have marbury, kurt, ariza, and a couple of picks and some nice veteran talent to put in there....and by the graces of god a healthy allan houston, we could be dangerous.....
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3/18/2005  9:42 AM
Maybe they think Craw could be a point guard

Crawford
Kobe
Bulter
Sweetny
Mihm

Thats not a bad line-up, especially if craw cuts back on his shot selection....
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3/18/2005  9:46 AM
I think the Lakers malaise is in part a result of chemistry, personality & coaching issues.

They really have no post option, a lot of their shots are taken on the perimeter and a lot of the time its Kobe playing one on five basketball.

I think they have talent, but they need to better utilize what they have.

Odom, if he's not careful, is going to end up being another Tim Thomas- big, tall, talented, but a mental mush that melts in pressure situations.
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3/18/2005  10:04 AM
Odom's averaging a double-double for the season. the only thing similar between he & TT is their height.

as for going after him, i would jump for joy if Isiah were able to pull that off...it would take a minimum offer of Craw, Ariza, Mo T (as filler) & possibly a pick to get LA to consider it.
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3/18/2005  10:14 AM
this is one guy I would JUMP at the opportunity to use my #1 pick on. Most of you know I've had an Odom fettish for about 2-3 years now. When the Heat had their monster turnaround it was Odom (not Wade) that really carried the team. He's not comfortable in LA's system for whatever reason and his scoring is down some. He's a good defender, can handle like a PG and is one of 2-3 guys in the NBA that can really play all 6 positions at any given time (Dirk, Walker, KG).

Now that the Laker's have Kobe locked up they can afford to better build around him. The are going to be a lottery team, bottom line. I think a deal of TT + the lottery pick is fair. I would go so far as to include Sweetney and take their #2 back.
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3/18/2005  10:33 AM
Dealing for Odom would be a miracle....Like I said, it would be in LA's advantage to get Kurt instead because Kurt doesn't need that many touches...He can knock down the jumper, especially with Kobe's penetration....Craw at the point for LA with Kobe at SG is a much better lineup for LA and Kobe...and Odom in N.Y could flourish just like he did in Miami... I would love the deal, but we would have to retain either Sweet or Mo because of the postup game that they both bring to the table...

Kurt, TT (expiring contract), and Crawf for Odom, Medvedenko, and one of LA's bad contracts could do the trick...Again, with TT's contract they can definitely pursue Yao next season...

[Edited by - diderotn on 03/18/2005 10:34:05]
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3/18/2005  11:02 AM
Posted by MS:

Bonn you have to be kidding, you would give up a lot to get Randolph he is terrible for any team looking to play together...He is a selfish bitch, Portland made a big mistake by not trading him to a team stupid enough to give that trouble maker an extension......

And i think the lakers will listen to some offers....if we give them Craw and sweetney for Odom i bet they would listen, and we would still have marbury, kurt, ariza, and a couple of picks and some nice veteran talent to put in there....and by the graces of god a healthy allan houston, we could be dangerous.....
Zach's 23 and a gifted scorer who puts up 20/10. I don't really by into the bad attitude stuff because I think 90% of players have bad attitudes, but winning just conceals their attitudes. Ricky Davis is playing well on a winning team; so, he's not a team cancer anymore. KG's made it to the conference finals; so he's not a punk who punches his teammates. Jason Kidd's made it to the NBA finals; so he's not a wife beater. There are tons of examples. I want good players who play hard and play well and have skills that compliment each other. If Marbury drives to the basket, the PF guarding Zach can NEVER leave his man (Zach to play help D). This gives Marbury such a clear path to the basket.

[Edited by - Bonn1997 on 03/18/2005 11:04:21]
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3/18/2005  11:16 AM
if you can keep Sweetney on the team, i'd MUCH rather go after a Lamar Odom to complement Marbury's game.

C - KT
PF - Sweetney
SF - Odom
SG - MLE free agent?
PG - Marbury

that's a nicely balanced roster that has some good complementary players...KT at C isn't ideal but at least he can knock down the midrange jumper off of Marbury & Odom's dishing, & you have Sweetney playing in the low post giving you that back to the basket game...all you need is a good 3 point shooter at SG to spread the D even more & that team can make noise in the East next season...certainly won't beat the Heat w/Shaq in all likelihood, but will give other teams like DET, CLE, IND, BOS, PHI, WAS & ORL a run for their money...if you can turn KT & the pick into a young up & coming C like Curry, Dalembert or Kwame, then all the better.

[Edited by - TMS on 03/18/2005 11:36:52]
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3/18/2005  11:38 AM
Posted by TMS:

if you can keep Sweetney on the team, i'd MUCH rather go after a Lamar Odom to complement Marbury's game.

C - KT
PF - Sweetney
SF - Odom
SG - MLE free agent?
PG - Marbury

that's a nicely balanced roster that has some good complementary players...KT at C isn't ideal but at least he can knock down the midrange jumper off of Marbury & Odom's dishing, & you have Sweetney playing in the low post giving you that back to the basket game...all you need is a good 3 point shooter at SG to spread the D even more & that team can make noise in the East next season...certainly won't beat the Heat w/Shaq in all likelihood, but will give other teams like DET, CLE, IND, BOS, PHI, WAS & ORL a run for their money.
I'd have to see more of Sweetney. He doesn't look like he can impact the game nearly as much as the kind of big man I want on the team in the low-post playing with Marbury. He looks more like Briggs said--a good 6th man PF. If we can keep and develop Ariza, I'd be even more inclined to pursue a PF/C than an SF. I think what he's shown at 19 is quite impressive (more impressive than what Sweetney's showing at 23).

[Edited by - Bonn1997 on 03/18/2005 11:39:18]
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3/18/2005  11:48 AM
I think moving Odom to the SF where he can handle the ball is a huge plus, and could really pay dividends especially in the rebounding department, although the knicks will be undersized their front court rebounding would be amoung the best in the NBA....

Then we could really use the draft to our advantage, we could look into High school sg's, Warrick will be their, Taft perhaps (not a fan), a Jarret Jack to back up steph, and we could also look into sign and trades......be aggressive with the mid-level.....Tough to lose Ariza, Craw, TT

If LA doesn't improve they may want to cut salary, or may want to give up Wilcox and Brand, but they can be aggresive and really show a plan.....

Odom is effective when he has the ball, we need to get him
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3/18/2005  11:52 AM
a team with odom and marbury can win a championship but they really need a stud bigman like Bogut, Nene or maybe even Curry not a steven Hunter.
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3/18/2005  12:08 PM
I don't understand why most Knicks fans are so crazy about Kurt Thomas...If we are trying to fix our Center problem, why in the world must the many of you continue to include his name in our lineup???Bonn1997's lineup of:
C - KT
PF - Sweetney
SF - Odom
SG - MLE free agent?
PG - Marbury


that is a pathetic lineup in my opinion...The Knicks will never be a contender until we get us a shot blocker or a true Center...Forget about Kurt for Pete's sake....
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3/18/2005  12:17 PM
first of all, that was my lineup i posted...second of all, i never said that lineup would win a championship...i said it would be able to contend in the East next year w/teams other than the Heat, since no other teams in the East have a real dominant C...what other 3 some in the frontcourt is a better rebounding squad in the East than KT, Sweetney & Odom? name me 1...also, name me 1 team in the East that gives you the versatility & balanced game that roster does...let's see your genius at work diderotn, since you're so fond of making comments about other people's idea...

oh yeah, i forgot, you wanted to do this in the other thread:
Posted by diderotn:

I would trade Thomas's expiring contract to the Wiz for Jared Jefferies and Larry Hughes...or Hughes and Haywood...

now that's brilliant...i'm sure WAS would be knocking down your door to make that trade.

[Edited by - TMS on 03/18/2005 12:19:04]
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