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diderotn
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3/16/2005  7:21 AM
It's incredible how quiet this board has been about Tinny Timmy since he has started to play well....He had once again a pretty solid game last night, that is despite the fact that Crawf and Marb have found ways to run away from him in the fourth....this dude has the best shooting percentage amongst the guards, but he takes less shots than all of them....He has been putting up big numbers, and most of all, he has also managed to collect 5 boards to go with his points....Why isn't he the first option every freaking night??? In the fourth, all of our plays should have ran through him with Marb as 2nd option and either Sweet or Kurt as 3rd option.....Crawf should be the last option frankly, because he is our worst shooter...


Early on in the season, it was ok to have Crawf as the second option because TT was really in the game, but that is no longer the case....


TT= first option
Marb= second
Kurt= third
Sweetney= fourth
Crawf= last option


Herb needs to use the remainder of the games that we have left to stress that point...Crawf should be used mainly as a distributor/PG...That is when Marb needs a breather at the point...
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3/16/2005  7:42 AM
Posted by diderotn:

He has been putting up big numbers, and most of all, he has also managed to collect 5 boards to go with his points....

Great! We'll get something better for him when we trade him in the offseason. I still want him off this team.

Posted by diderotn:

Herb needs to use the remainder of the games that we have left to stress that point...Crawf should be used mainly as a distributor/PG...That is when Marb needs a breather at the point...

Lemme guess. Once again, the Knicks have the talent, only that the
coach sucks, and you have the answers? I don't think so.
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3/16/2005  8:08 AM
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3/16/2005  8:19 AM
Panos! what the hell is your problem??? how in the world can you say that the coach sucks? have you forgotten that Herb is a rookie at that position? furthermore, is it his fault that Crawff failed to execute the play properly?


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Posted by diderotn:

He has been putting up big numbers, and most of all, he has also managed to collect 5 boards to go with his points....

Great! We'll get something better for him when we trade him in the offseason. I still want him off this team.

Posted by diderotn:

Herb needs to use the remainder of the games that we have left to stress that point...Crawf should be used mainly as a distributor/PG...That is when Marb needs a breather at the point...

Lemme guess. Once again, the Knicks have the talent, only that the
coach sucks, and you have the answers? I don't think so.
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3/16/2005  9:04 AM


Tim is averaging 19 points per game since the trading deadline. He has a 5pt stinker in Orlando so it's tainted a little....

He's also shooting like 48% from 3.

I give props to Timmy.....dude has finally woke up from his funk. When Timmy is playing the way he is supposed to play the guy is not someone you trade away....He is a nice piece to have. He's been playing to his potential scoring wise and defensively. His rebounding could always be better bu the is doing what he is supposed to do......FINALLY!!!!!!!!
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3/16/2005  9:15 AM
The question remains the same: why is it that down the stretch, Marb and Crawf have stayed away from him? Could it be the reason why we always lose leads in the fourth??? if something was working for 3 quarters, why shy away from it in the final quarters????
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3/16/2005  9:54 AM
The last minute meltdown is unforgivable. Crawford had no business heaving that 3 pt prayer and then Herb calls time out and sets up a shot for the end and what do we get? KT shooting a 22 footer with a man on him out of his range. If you can't get Marbury the ball, and God knows Van Gundy found a way to get Wade the ball in a similar circumstance at the other end, then get the ball in TT's hands and he could either shoot a 3 or take his man and try to get fouled. KT as the second or first option from 22 ft was horrible.
For the Heat, why not double Wade when he got the ball, and make him give it up? He left poor Ariza out there on an island to cover one of the best one-on-one players in the league.
Finally, how many 3 pointers did Damon Jones hit? I think it was six. Where the hell was Marbury?
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3/16/2005  10:00 AM
most of those threes were crawford getting there late...still a kid...i like using tt because he doesn't shy away from the big shot...hero or goat is fine by him.
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3/16/2005  10:00 AM
most of those threes were crawford getting there late...still a kid...i like using tt because he doesn't shy away from the big shot...hero or goat is fine by him.
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3/16/2005  10:06 AM
I agree with you a 100%, Marb is horrible defensively...All season, he has been torched by the opposing PGs that he has guarded...At the end of the season, he really needs to concentrate his game into playing defense...Marb always has at least 2' infront of him when guading his man, just enough room to get a shot off and enough room for the pick and roll defender to step in and create the separation needed by the shooter.. Especially a dude like Jones (one of the deadliest shooter from the 3 line). Over all, there were plenty of mistakes in that game, poor in game adjustments, and most of all, down the stretch Herb failed to instruct his defenders to back off of Shaq and concentrate more on Wade.....

Plenty of blames to go around: Marb for failing defensively to guard his man, Crawf for taking the crazy shot with 13 seconds left on the clock, and finally Herb for not telling Marb to take charge or get the ball out of Crawf's hands, and for failing to have proper defenders in the last seconds to guard Wade....
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3/16/2005  11:03 AM
While Im happy to see TT starting to come out of his funk,I am concerned that Isiah will give him a big contract extension because of his turnaround and he will revert back to his old underwelming self.
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3/16/2005  11:25 AM
Isiah is not a fool...He will probably offer TT an extension, but it will not be for no more than 7 million per year...In my opinion, that is exactly what he deserves...


Posted by Kwazimodal:

While Im happy to see TT starting to come out of his funk,I am concerned that Isiah will give him a big contract extension because of his turnaround and he will revert back to his old underwelming self.
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3/16/2005  11:40 AM
Posted by diderotn:

Isiah is not a fool...He will probably offer TT an extension, but it will not be for no more than 7 million per year...In my opinion, that is exactly what he deserves...


Posted by Kwazimodal:

While Im happy to see TT starting to come out of his funk,I am concerned that Isiah will give him a big contract extension because of his turnaround and he will revert back to his old underwelming self.


Im still not convinced he should get an extension.Taylor is making almost 10 mill per year and Rose is right up there with him.Im not sure what makes you believe that he would offer and TT would accept alot less money as a starter.
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3/16/2005  11:59 AM
maybe because Tim has a tendency to step up his game when there's really no point in winning them? at least, that's been his pattern as a Knick of late. yeah, he's playing better...woopdy freakin' do...who cares? where was he all year long when the team was actually in the hunt for the #3 seed

now if they even MAKE the playoffs (which will be a task in itself considering the team is 10 games under .500 w/only about a month or so of basketball left to play & 4 other teams vying for the #8 seed ahead of them in the standings), they'll have to play the Miami Heat & Shaq in the 1st round of the playoffs.

the only good thing about Timmy playing well right now is so that he ups his trade value.
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3/16/2005  12:59 PM
TT is a talented guy that will continue to get huge contracts thrown his way because of his size...If he ever puts it all together for a whole season, he will be a major player in this league..


Posted by TMS:

maybe because Tim has a tendency to step up his game when there's really no point in winning them? at least, that's been his pattern as a Knick of late. yeah, he's playing better...woopdy freakin' do...who cares? where was he all year long when the team was actually in the hunt for the #3 seed

now if they even MAKE the playoffs (which will be a task in itself considering the team is 10 games under .500 w/only about a month or so of basketball left to play & 4 other teams vying for the #8 seed ahead of them in the standings), they'll have to play the Miami Heat & Shaq in the 1st round of the playoffs.

the only good thing about Timmy playing well right now is so that he ups his trade value.
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3/16/2005  11:06 PM
I just wondered what the Knicks record would have been if TT played this way the whole year. 45 wins maybe? It is just a shame he couldn't get it together until now. And if he plays like this next year, why bother looking elsewhere for a guy like Antawn Jamison when the present TT could do just as well, and we could sign him probably for a lot less than it would cost to get another risky player like a Jamison. We'll see what plays out next year.
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3/17/2005  7:07 AM
TT is from the area and because of his family, he may accept a lesser contract from the Knicks if it is offered to him...To be honest, I am hoping that Isiah retains him for a couple of more years, but at 7 millions per....I was hoping that Isiah would have acquired Walker, but it never happened...Honestly, I do believe that Walker is exactly what our starting lineup needs...

I am beginning to believe that we will not make the playoffs, and most of all, Herb will be replaced by Phlip Saunders.....
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3/17/2005  9:41 AM
The only coach that should supplant Herb is Phil Jackson

No to Flip Saunders.

He had KG to work with.
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3/17/2005  9:58 AM
Isiah makes the calls my friend...Herb is a promising young coach, but he is in a pretty bad situation right now.. His performance as a coach will be evaluated, and if he doesn't have more wins than losses when it is all said and done, he will be replaced...in the same token, the Knicks will need to lose games to secure a high draft pick...I don't know, regardless of who is the coach, until we have talents at all positions, we will not reach and advance in the playoffs...First we have to trade Kurt and make rooms for a TRUE CENTER....Not PFs playing Center...We need a shot blocker, and most of all, we need a defensive minded starting SG.....Forget about Houston, and resolve the SF problem by either re-signing TT to a smaller contract or promote Ariza as a starter and let him develop...Keep JYD and Rose around to back Ariza and Sweetney...That is it...

If we keep Herb, than it is all good..If Isiah replaces him too, it is all good...

Posted by misterearl:

The only coach that should supplant Herb is Phil Jackson

No to Flip Saunders.

He had KG to work with.
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3/17/2005  1:23 PM
I like Tim and hope he resigns for 7 mill.
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