btw, that's still iverson's team. he had it going tonight but it's still with the ball in his hands and he has carte blanche. webber is now a $20 mil role player. i have a feeling nothing good is going to come out of this, especially after the philly crowd gets a good 20 games to see what they just acquired.

The guy is playing on pure smarts, he's moving just like houston was, slow and strategic, every move is thought out before. Maybe he is taking the inflamatory med.

He was always a good passer, but is office is the top of the key close to the foul line. He shoots, pick and rolls, starts a lay up, and passes from that one spot.

How don't see how anybody thinks webber was that significant of an upgrade. He's good, but he's far from dominate.

Posted by knicks1248:

The guy is playing on pure smarts, he's moving just like houston was, slow and strategic, every move is thought out before. Maybe he is taking the inflamatory med.

He was always a good passer, but is office is the top of the key close to the foul line. He shoots, pick and rolls, starts a lay up, and passes from that one spot.

How don't see how anybody thinks webber was that significant of an upgrade. He's good, but he's far from dominate.

No, you have to be dominant to be the player of the month. You have to be dominant to put up 21/10/5. He's dominant even though he's not at the level of KG, Duncan, Shaq, Stoudemire

would it really matter if webber were 100%? nothing changes, iverson, shoots and shoots and shoots and shoots some more, while other guys get shots when and if they touch the ball.... I don't see webber impacting that team any more than kenny thomas..

Posted by BigSm00th:

He had 8 assists too. It still shocks me after all these years that people say Iverson's a ball hog. He's 5th in the league in assists at 8 per game, and for his career he's averaged 6 per game. Ballhogs don't average 6 assists per game. The guy can score, what do you want him to do, not shoot? Ridiculous...

I think they are looking at his FG% and determine he shoots too much. I think they ran down the list on ESPN radio on Sunday, about the number of guys who have a better FG%. I think he ranks like 48th in the NBA. Another point was that most of his points comes from layups too. So I guess they were trying to conclude that he is far worst shooter than his FG even indicates.

The best guard you have ever seen? Let's be a little more realistic. Guys like Jordan, Magic, Isiah were star guards who won multiple championships. Their three teams combined probably didn't miss the playoffs as many times as Iverson's has. I think Iverson is *awesome* but I would never call him the best guard I've ever seen.

Posted by Bonn1997:

The best guard you have ever seen? Let's be a little more realistic. Guys like Jordan, Magic, Isiah were star guards who won multiple championships. Their three teams combined probably didn't miss the playoffs as many times as Iverson's has. I think Iverson is *awesome* but I would never call him the best guard I've ever seen.

yup.. and all those guys played on some of the greatest teams ever.
Have you ever seen Iverson live? If you havent you dont know what I'm talking about. the only other guy I can think of that possesses such superior speed to his competition is Michael Vick. I am being realistic. Tell me the best player Iverson has ever played with. Talk about the other guys and we are talking about Dumar, Mahorn, Rodman, Lambeir, James Worthy, Kareem and Pippen.

Thanks for your opinion

Posted by fishmike:

Posted by Bonn1997:

The best guard you have ever seen? Let's be a little more realistic. Guys like Jordan, Magic, Isiah were star guards who won multiple championships. Their three teams combined probably didn't miss the playoffs as many times as Iverson's has. I think Iverson is *awesome* but I would never call him the best guard I've ever seen.

yup.. and all those guys played on some of the greatest teams ever.
Have you ever seen Iverson live? If you havent you dont know what I'm talking about. the only other guy I can think of that possesses such superior speed to his competition is Michael Vick. I am being realistic. Tell me the best player Iverson has ever played with. Talk about the other guys and we are talking about Dumar, Mahorn, Rodman, Lambeir, James Worthy, Kareem and Pippen.

Thanks for your opinion

No need to get rude with the last line. The best player he's played with. Well, he played with one of the best defensive big men in his prime in the history of the game in Mutombo. He played with some good scorers like Van Horn and Glen Robinson. Of course, those players don't compare to the ones you mentioned but they're good enough that they combined with the best guard in the history of the game shouldn't always be lottery teams. (Unless Iverson really isn't the best.) If Iverson is better than Jordan and Magic, then he should *at least* make it to the conference finals now that he has a 21/11/6 PF with him. I think Jordan or Magic would make it at least that far with a 21/11/6 PF.
Yes, I've watched him many times, BTW. He truly is awesome. No one will deny that. Thanks for asking.

[Edited by - Bonn1997 on 03/02/2005 11:33:40]

[Edited by - Bonn1997 on 03/02/2005 11:34:25]

he's played with guys good enough to get to the playoffs. He's never played with another star, and Mutumbo isnt even a star. His size changed games.

I also said he's the best guard I have ever SEEN. Not the best guard ever. I never saw Magic play. Jordon was sick because all his freakin shots just went in.

When I said "seen" I meant live. TV doesn count. BB is good on TV, but until you see a guy play live its hard to assess his game. If you saw Starks play live you would know why he was one of the leagues best defenders. IF you saw Reggie Miller play live you would see he's not just a great jumpshooter, he's one of the best in the league at moving away from the ball.

I know you dont go to games. Not your fault... we have geography and $$$ barriers. I pretty much stopped going when I had kids, but just started going back this year and thats only been 3 times. My point is you see a different game when your there.

Having seen Reggie, Wade, Ray Allen, Rip, Jordon, Stockton, Jason Williams, Steve Nash, Tim Hardaway, Payton and Harper to name a few AI is the best I have ever seen.