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ReasonableNYfan
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1/20/2005  5:23 PM
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Ewing's last 4 years @ 14M per
Houston's 100M deal
Weatherspoon 6 years at full midlevel
Vin baker at 3.2 per

BTW one of their best free agent signings was KT's first deal - 3 years at 2.5 per...
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1/20/2005  5:30 PM
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1/20/2005  5:33 PM
I think the worst signing ever was Houston and the worst trade ever was Ewing for Rice. giving KT a trade kicker is pretty bad too


[Edited by - gunsnewing on 01/20/2005 17:34:52]
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1/20/2005  5:48 PM
Shandon Anderson & Howard Eisley acquired in horrible sign & trades.

was Travis Knight a sign & trade too? i forget...that's another one we can beat ourselves over the head for.
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1/20/2005  5:51 PM
Knight came with anderson and eisely when we traded Rice
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1/20/2005  5:57 PM
Houston and Kurt
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1/20/2005  6:33 PM
Posted by gunsnewing:

Knight came with anderson and eisely when we traded Rice

Actually Knight was part of the original Ewing deal along with Luc Longley (another great acquisition) a #1 from LA (was dealth with Erik Strickland for Othello Harrington; pick wound up being traded to SA and they picked Tony Parker with it) and a #1 from Seatle that was traded to Toronto along w. Chris Child for Mark Jackson. The whole Ewing trade from start to finish was an abortion.
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1/20/2005  7:15 PM
Posted by ItaliaKnick:
Posted by gunsnewing:

Knight came with anderson and eisely when we traded Rice

Actually Knight was part of the original Ewing deal along with Luc Longley (another great acquisition) a #1 from LA (was dealth with Erik Strickland for Othello Harrington; pick wound up being traded to SA and they picked Tony Parker with it) and a #1 from Seatle that was traded to Toronto along w. Chris Child for Mark Jackson. The whole Ewing trade from start to finish was an abortion.

yea and ewing forced the abortion on us, that's one of the reasons why he isn't in our front office or coaching here with the knicks now!
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1/20/2005  8:30 PM
this is easy:

the worst trade ever was the ewing deal
and the worst contract signing ever is allan houston (the 2nd time around)

giving kurt an extension is not even top 5, you still have the erick strickland and othella harrington deals as well.
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1/20/2005  8:50 PM
the houston extension is bad- but, at least he was a marginal all star.

Eisley, Anderson- completely non untalented
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1/20/2005  8:56 PM
Posted by franco12:

the houston extension is bad- but, at least he was a marginal all star.

Eisley, Anderson- completely non untalented

but what you are failing to realize is that if you're going to give houston 100mil you are not going to be able to bring in championship guys. Do you really think houston could've lead them to a championship? because he didn't. he lead them to two 30win seasons
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1/20/2005  9:11 PM
Posted by gunsnewing:
Posted by franco12:

the houston extension is bad- but, at least he was a marginal all star.

Eisley, Anderson- completely non untalented

but what you are failing to realize is that if you're going to give houston 100mil you are not going to be able to bring in championship guys. Do you really think houston could've lead them to a championship? because he didn't. he lead them to two 30win seasons
Actually, he was a crucial part of the team that went to the NBA finals.
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1/20/2005  9:28 PM
Posted by Bonn1997:
Posted by gunsnewing:
Posted by franco12:

the houston extension is bad- but, at least he was a marginal all star.

Eisley, Anderson- completely non untalented

but what you are failing to realize is that if you're going to give houston 100mil you are not going to be able to bring in championship guys. Do you really think houston could've lead them to a championship? because he didn't. he lead them to two 30win seasons
Actually, he was a crucial part of the team that went to the NBA finals.

no Spree, Camby & LJ were. Houston was a big part of the season why we almosted missed the playoffs because it wasn't until Spree was made a starter and JVG started playing Camby that the knicks went on a role.
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1/20/2005  9:28 PM
i think his point was that once the Knicks signed Houston to that ridiculous contract, it prevented them from bringing in the necessary pieces to take the team to the next level of WINNING a championship...squeaking into the playoffs as an 8th seed & making it to the NBA finals in a strike shortened '99 season may have actually been the worst thing to happen to this team in a long time, because it seriously delayed the rebuilding process & caused Allan Houston's value to the team to skyrocket beyond reasonable amounts, & the terrible trade of Ewing soon followed.
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1/20/2005  9:31 PM
the '99 season says it all. Houston was our best player that year and we barely made the playoffs. if it wasn't for Camby and Spree we would've gone no where. Just like how Houston lead us to 2 straight 30win seasons when he was the #1 option on the team.
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1/20/2005  9:39 PM
Posted by gunsnewing:

the '99 season says it all. Houston was our best player that year and we barely made the playoffs. if it wasn't for Camby and Spree we would've gone no where. Just like how Houston lead us to 2 straight 30win seasons when he was the #1 option on the team.
Houston was not our best player that year, Sprewell was our best player that year. It was him and Camby that changed the pace for our team and we got to the finals only because we had them.
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1/20/2005  9:47 PM
Posted by Silverfuel:
Posted by gunsnewing:

the '99 season says it all. Houston was our best player that year and we barely made the playoffs. if it wasn't for Camby and Spree we would've gone no where. Just like how Houston lead us to 2 straight 30win seasons when he was the #1 option on the team.
Houston was not our best player that year, Sprewell was our best player that year. It was him and Camby that changed the pace for our team and we got to the finals only because we had them.

i was talking about in the regular season when we barely made the playoffs and was a .500 team. Spree was on the bench and Houston was playing more minutes and JVG never played Camby. All I'm saying is look where it got us. We almost missed the playoffs that year because Houston was starting over sprewell!
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1/20/2005  9:49 PM
what I'm tring to say is they thought Houston was the best player on the team and made him the focal point. it was until Spree and Camby emerged that we became a good team.

I should've wrote "best player" in quotes so you could see that i was being sarcastic

[Edited by - gunsnewing on 01/20/2005 21:51:19]
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1/20/2005  9:52 PM
Houston's $100 million contract is the worst ever in the history of Knicks. It has to be. We are still paying dearly on Houston's now gimpy knees. I would have simply kept Spree and let Houston go in either a sign and trade or let him walk. He might as well play wheelchair basketball.
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Posted by KNICKSdom:

Houston's $100 million contract is the worst ever in the history of Knicks. It has to be. We are still paying dearly on Houston's now gimpy knees. I would have simply kept Spree and let Houston go in either a sign and trade or let him walk. He might as well play wheelchair basketball.
It goes deeper than his gimpy knees which most people forget. He was never anything more than a jumpshooter. His career FG%, 44.5 is nothing fancy. He is a very mediocre player whose has won people over with his "sweet jumper" including the Knicks front office. The knicks have been and will keep paying for signing Houston until he is off the books.
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